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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks  (Read 5353398 times)
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February 10, 2018, 10:39:46 AM
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we need more miners in the pool, more so than ever now, not less.  At a minimum let's not encourage people to leave.

So the pool need a modern, updated, nice-looking frontend. An even lower fees are necessary, 0.5% is the only possible value for pool to be attractive for miners. May be some reward for those who find a block (with total hashrate per account is lower than 500 Th) is a good measure too if kano has any funds for it.

Please make America this pool great again!  Wink

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February 10, 2018, 10:48:39 AM
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we need more miners in the pool, more so than ever now, not less.  At a minimum let's not encourage people to leave.

So the pool need a modern, updated, nice-looking frontend. An even lower fees are necessary, 0.5% is the only possible value for pool to be attractive for miners. May be some reward for those who find a block (with total hashrate per account is lower than 500 Th) is a good measure too if kano has any funds for it.

Please make America this pool great again!  Wink
Lower fees don't make any noticeable difference ... being 0 fee from 19-Nov to 31-Dec didn't do much.

Block reward just increases variance and attracting tiny miners wont help - the pool has to at least pay for itself Tongue

The hash rate rose ...

Pool: https://kano.is - low 0.5% fee PPLNS 3 Days - Most reliable Solo with ONLY 0.5% fee   Bitcointalk thread: Forum
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February 10, 2018, 10:52:46 AM
Last edit: February 10, 2018, 11:19:05 AM by AerialGopher
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Has anyone tried to put one of them water cooled CPU radiators in from of the exhaust fan of an S9?

I am wondering if there air restriction is too much, and the reason is for heat recovery, to heat water to be circulated elsewhere and just to test if enough heat recovery is possible to make it worth doing.

Air temp coming out of the S9 is 45 Deg when ambient temp is 21 Deg C, so wondering if anyone has tried it, and if you know the temperature rise you got on the circulated water.


This could also be used for air intake, if you could chill water elsewhere and have it circulated to the CPU cooler radiator but on the intake side.

Crazy I know, but this is a more directed approach to cooling, since you only cool the air the miner takes in.  Or you can use this same method for chilling to a bigger radiator for a bigger room.

Underground tank that holds water will be cooler than the outside air..

Or an indirect use of this set up with an evaporative cooling solution, so that no actual moist air from the evaporative cooler goes through the S9 and makes it corrode inside.

Just tossing ideas around.

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February 10, 2018, 11:54:12 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHfT_0UeU6A

Lots of trials around mineral oil and miners.
Note "I will not be held responsible if you break something"

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February 10, 2018, 12:26:57 PM
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They are in denial..  they still think it is just a difference of smaller quicker payouts vs bigger slower payouts and have no clue that they are bottoming out on small datasets

So in your signature, you say to support the small mining pools (specifically this pool) but we are all idiots that are in denial? May want to update your sig.
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February 10, 2018, 12:33:40 PM
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we need more miners in the pool, more so than ever now, not less.  At a minimum let's not encourage people to leave.

So the pool need a modern, updated, nice-looking frontend. An even lower fees are necessary, 0.5% is the only possible value for pool to be attractive for miners. May be some reward for those who find a block (with total hashrate per account is lower than 500 Th) is a good measure too if kano has any funds for it.

Please make America this pool great again!  Wink
Lower fees don't make any noticeable difference ... being 0 fee from 19-Nov to 31-Dec didn't do much.

Block reward just increases variance and attracting tiny miners wont help - the pool has to at least pay for itself Tongue

The hash rate rose ...

I don't know about others, but I chose your pool initially because of this page: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools It is one of the first resources you find, when looking for pools.

Your fee may have been 0% for a while last year, and that was exactly when I was looking for a pool for my new S9. Since that table was not up to date I had no idea the fees were 0%. In my opinion, you did not see any difference or increase in hashrate then because not many people outside the pool knew that it's fees had been lowered.
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February 10, 2018, 01:21:25 PM
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Could somebody, maybe kano, give me a whitelist of
secure node servers in Europe?

Actually I let core client choose the nodes, but
I think this isn't a secure setup for my core client.

Thanks
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MINE ON!!
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February 10, 2018, 01:38:29 PM
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Finally cracked a block
Very unlucky streak :S
I had the same earnings on Kano for a week as 1 day on Slush  Cheesy
Hoping for a lucky streak to even out lol

Looking for a signature campaign.
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February 10, 2018, 01:43:40 PM
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Could somebody, maybe kano, give me a whitelist of
secure node servers in Europe?

Actually I let core client choose the nodes, but
I think this isn't a secure setup for my core client.

Thanks
and
MINE ON!!
Not sure what you are asking for?
The mining nodes are listed in the first post.

Pool: https://kano.is - low 0.5% fee PPLNS 3 Days - Most reliable Solo with ONLY 0.5% fee   Bitcointalk thread: Forum
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February 10, 2018, 02:23:10 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2018, 03:44:10 PM by BSGMiner
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But....am I ramped up or not.....?  Grin
The Workers->Shift Graph will currently show that clearly.
The light red area is the 5Nd, so if you were mining since the beginning of that area (or before) then you are now fully ramped up.

Again, as a reminder to all, the 5Nd 'ramp' isn't a time interval, it's an amount of hashes - specifically 5 times the network difficulty.
Since the pool hash rate changes around quite a bit, the 'time' for the 5Nd is quite varying Smiley
I'm fully ramped up according to the Workers>Shift Graph; however, on the Workers>Shifts page, there are 86 shifts between the bold red line and the 1/22 block where I'm not seeing a reward.

How/when will I get rewarded for that time period? Thanks in advance for the explanation.

The BTCest mining pool (<1% fee): KanoPool
***PPLNS rewards averaged over the 5Nd to reduce variance***
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February 10, 2018, 02:28:46 PM
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I’m ready to crack this next block!
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February 10, 2018, 02:43:04 PM
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But....am I ramped up or not.....?  Grin
The Workers->Shift Graph will currently show that clearly.
The light red area is the 5Nd, so if you were mining since the beginning of that area (or before) then you are now fully ramped up.

Again, as a reminder to all, the 5Nd 'ramp' isn't a time interval, it's an amount of hashes - specifically 5 times the network difficulty.
Since the pool hash rate changes around quite a bit, the 'time' for the 5Nd is quite varying Smiley

I'm fully ramped up according to the Workers>Shift Graph; however, on the Workers>Shifts page, there are 86 shifts between the bold red line and the 1/22 block where I'm not seeing a reward.

How/when will I get rewarded for that time period? Thanks in advance for the explanation.

When a block is found. The reward process counts back shifts until the total share difficulty included is 5Nd. So the red line is showing you were the 5Nd point is. Rewards are averaged between the redline and finding the block.
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February 10, 2018, 02:49:25 PM
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Could somebody, maybe kano, give me a whitelist of
secure node servers in Europe?

Actually I let core client choose the nodes, but
I think this isn't a secure setup for my core client.

Thanks
and
MINE ON!!
Not sure what you are asking for?
The mining nodes are listed in the first post.


I'am running a bitcoin core client (full node) on one of my machines.
But I just run it in "read-only" mode. No other core client can connect to it from outside.
I actually want to connect my core client only to some whitelistet core nodes
instead of let it choose the nodes it connects to.
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February 10, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2018, 03:43:56 PM by BSGMiner
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But....am I ramped up or not.....?  Grin
The Workers->Shift Graph will currently show that clearly.
The light red area is the 5Nd, so if you were mining since the beginning of that area (or before) then you are now fully ramped up.

Again, as a reminder to all, the 5Nd 'ramp' isn't a time interval, it's an amount of hashes - specifically 5 times the network difficulty.
Since the pool hash rate changes around quite a bit, the 'time' for the 5Nd is quite varying Smiley
I'm fully ramped up according to the Workers>Shift Graph; however, on the Workers>Shifts page, there are 86 shifts between the bold red line and the 1/22 block where I'm not seeing a reward.

How/when will I get rewarded for that time period? Thanks in advance for the explanation.
When a block is found. The reward process counts back shifts until the total share difficulty included is 5Nd. So the red line is showing you were the 5Nd point is. Rewards are averaged between the redline and finding the block.
Sorry if I didn't explain well enough. The reward "gap"--all zeros--is below/b] the bold red line (i.e. Between 1/22 and 1/25).

The BTCest mining pool (<1% fee): KanoPool
***PPLNS rewards averaged over the 5Nd to reduce variance***
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February 10, 2018, 02:59:27 PM
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But....am I ramped up or not.....?  Grin
The Workers->Shift Graph will currently show that clearly.
The light red area is the 5Nd, so if you were mining since the beginning of that area (or before) then you are now fully ramped up.

Again, as a reminder to all, the 5Nd 'ramp' isn't a time interval, it's an amount of hashes - specifically 5 times the network difficulty.
Since the pool hash rate changes around quite a bit, the 'time' for the 5Nd is quite varying Smiley

I'm fully ramped up according to the Workers>Shift Graph; however, on the Workers>Shifts page, there are 86 shifts between the bold red line and the 1/22 block where I'm not seeing a reward.

How/when will I get rewarded for that time period? Thanks in advance for the explanation.

When a block is found. The reward process counts back shifts until the total share difficulty included is 5Nd. So the red line is showing you were the 5Nd point is. Rewards are averaged between the redline and finding the block.

Sorry if I didn't explain well enough. The reward "gap"--all zeros--is below/b] the bold red line (i.e. Between 1/22 and 1/25).

You wont - that's beyond the 5Nd period


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February 10, 2018, 03:01:21 PM
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Holy Sh**t

I actually looked at my reward for last block...    Shocked Shocked Shocked

26.31THs   0.00699728

last block january i got for   26.46THs   0.01220075

okay the block in january was 15.06 BTC.
But man...nearly cutting the reward in half in 2 weeks??

Did I miss something?
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February 10, 2018, 03:01:30 PM
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But....am I ramped up or not.....?  Grin
The Workers->Shift Graph will currently show that clearly.
The light red area is the 5Nd, so if you were mining since the beginning of that area (or before) then you are now fully ramped up.

Again, as a reminder to all, the 5Nd 'ramp' isn't a time interval, it's an amount of hashes - specifically 5 times the network difficulty.
Since the pool hash rate changes around quite a bit, the 'time' for the 5Nd is quite varying Smiley

I'm fully ramped up according to the Workers>Shift Graph; however, on the Workers>Shifts page, there are 86 shifts between the bold red line and the 1/22 block where I'm not seeing a reward.

How/when will I get rewarded for that time period? Thanks in advance for the explanation.

When a block is found. The reward process counts back shifts until the total share difficulty included is 5Nd. So the red line is showing you were the 5Nd point is. Rewards are averaged between the redline and finding the block.

Sorry if I didn't explain well enough. The reward "gap"--all zeros--is below/b] the bold red line (i.e. Between 1/22 and 1/25).

The gap between 1/22 and 1/25 does not fall within the 5Nd period. Thus there is no reward for those shifts. Mine looks same way.
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February 10, 2018, 03:04:00 PM
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Holy Sh**t

I actually looked at my reward for last block...    Shocked Shocked Shocked

26.31THs   0.00699728

last block january i got for   26.46THs   0.01220075

okay the block in january was 15.06 BTC.
But man...nearly cutting the reward in half in 2 weeks??

Did I miss something?

The pool hash rate basically doubled - so that's the big difference.

Block 505456 we were at 32.68PHs, this last one we were at 46.80PHs.

Bigger hash rate plus smaller block, plus more big players = smaller reward.
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February 10, 2018, 03:08:33 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2018, 03:43:26 PM by BSGMiner
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But....am I ramped up or not.....?  Grin
The Workers->Shift Graph will currently show that clearly.
The light red area is the 5Nd, so if you were mining since the beginning of that area (or before) then you are now fully ramped up.

Again, as a reminder to all, the 5Nd 'ramp' isn't a time interval, it's an amount of hashes - specifically 5 times the network difficulty.
Since the pool hash rate changes around quite a bit, the 'time' for the 5Nd is quite varying Smiley
I'm fully ramped up according to the Workers>Shift Graph; however, on the Workers>Shifts page, there are 86 shifts between the bold red line and the 1/22 block where I'm not seeing a reward.

How/when will I get rewarded for that time period? Thanks in advance for the explanation.
When a block is found. The reward process counts back shifts until the total share difficulty included is 5Nd. So the red line is showing you were the 5Nd point is. Rewards are averaged between the redline and finding the block.
Sorry if I didn't explain well enough. The reward "gap"--all zeros--is below the bold red line (i.e. Between 1/22 and 1/25).
The gap between 1/22 and 1/25 does not fall within the 5Nd period. Thus there is no reward for those shifts. Mine looks same way.
Wow... So, for all the blocks that are over 500%, no one gets paid for the work their miners did over the 500% mark?

That's disappointing if you're right.

The BTCest mining pool (<1% fee): KanoPool
***PPLNS rewards averaged over the 5Nd to reduce variance***
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February 10, 2018, 03:09:40 PM
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Holy Sh**t

I actually looked at my reward for last block...    Shocked Shocked Shocked

26.31THs   0.00699728

last block january i got for   26.46THs   0.01220075

okay the block in january was 15.06 BTC.
But man...nearly cutting the reward in half in 2 weeks??

Did I miss something?

The pool hash rate basically doubled - so that's the big difference.

Block 505456 we were at 32.68PHs, this last one we were at 46.80PHs.

Bigger hash rate plus smaller block, plus more big players = smaller reward.

but with the hopes for more frequent blocks.  It's the trade off.  Need a larger pool size (combined hash rate) means everyones profit per share is lower due to dilution, but with the promise or more frequent blocks.  
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