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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2435 blocks  (Read 5350122 times)
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September 04, 2018, 12:25:01 PM
Last edit: September 04, 2018, 12:47:22 PM by kano
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How many blocks has this “failover” gotten compared to his/her rewards.  That’s what I’d be most concerned about. Popping in and out is ok but at some point you better stay long enough to provide that pool a block otherwise your leaching off the fact they have a 5nd.  That’s why slush does it over one hour.  There seems there is no best solution only one in the middle with regards to pool hopping

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You can't game PPLNS except in a VERY small way over each diff change - and it's not worth trying since it's such a ridiculously small possible gain.

ALL blocks are random - so you cannot EVER determine in advance how many blocks will be found in the following 5Nd or during any other N range.
Skipping out when luck is low also doesn't work since you don't know when luck will change.
If you decide to skip out 'now' you don't know what the next 5Nd of luck will be and you also don't know what the 5Nd of luck after that will be that you've missed out on by skipping out.

The same is true for everyone who doesn't skip out - so you CAN NOT adversely affect them either.

Read Help->Luck
You can never know future luck or when luck will change.

If luck was always 100%, then you expect, 5Nd after the last share you submitted, to be rewarded X Diff worth of shares for submitting X Diff worth of shares.
What you actually get will be more or less, but depending on the block finding luck - which you CANNOT predetermine or affect in any way
(except by mining and also withholding, which no one with a large hash rate would do unless they were a competitor, since they will lose a lot of BTC by withholding blocks)

Claiming that people may mine here then leave before finding a block, has no effect on the pool luck, so it doesn't matter AT ALL.
We also don't pay block finder fees from everyone else's rewards, that would mean miners will get less, like certain other pools do.
We also don't have a fake fast ramp up, different to the ramp down, like a certain other pool claims to have, that CAN BE gamed.

Ignoring all the above, as for the 64PHs failover, as I said in Discord, I know who it is (and talk to them on occasion) and I know their failover is simply due to problems and thus is clearly a straight forward failover.

Edit: and to completely dash any delusions anyone has about random luck and saying that they could be causing bad luck on the pool, they have found more than twice their expected number of blocks while mining on the pool, since the pool started, with a VERY good CDF[Erl] of 0.010955

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September 04, 2018, 06:25:08 PM
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andrewa44  Cheesy
Wow... Got it with only 24TH/s!

"andrewa44.ant2" as in: .ant1 and .ant2, and that's it?!

Lucky dude... Cool

P.S. - Only 0.1 block away from 100% to start the month! MINE ON!!!

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How much I planning on big/middle size mining hall (Example 250 Ph/s) Smiley
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September 04, 2018, 08:10:00 PM
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andrewa44  Cheesy
Wow... Got it with only 24TH/s!

"andrewa44.ant2" as in: .ant1 and .ant2, and that's it?!

Lucky dude... Cool

P.S. - Only 0.1 block away from 100% to start the month! MINE ON!!!


Holy cow i cant believe i actually found a block lmao! I don't know why this makes me this ecstatic. And yes you're exactly right, its ant1 and ant2 and thats it. Unfortunately due to cooling issues, ant3 and ant4 haven't had a chance to be powered on yet :/ ... but holy cow i found a block!!!! Mine on everyone!

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September 04, 2018, 08:32:14 PM
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Right on, Drew!  Nice to see a small miner pop a block and be enshrined on the Acclaim Board! Hope I get there someday... Grin
Mine ON!!  Cool

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These aren't the Droids you're looking for: S5 & S7 (Sold), R4B2, R4B4 (RIP), 2x S9 obsolete, 2xS15-28, S17-56, S17-70
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September 04, 2018, 08:33:40 PM
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andrewa44  Cheesy
Wow... Got it with only 24TH/s!

"andrewa44.ant2" as in: .ant1 and .ant2, and that's it?!

Lucky dude... Cool

P.S. - Only 0.1 block away from 100% to start the month! MINE ON!!!


Holy cow i cant believe i actually found a block lmao! I don't know why this makes me this ecstatic. And yes you're exactly right, its ant1 and ant2 and thats it. Unfortunately due to cooling issues, ant3 and ant4 haven't had a chance to be powered on yet :/ ... but holy cow i found a block!!!! Mine on everyone!

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Haha!  It's fun to find a block...and get recognized for it! Cheesy

Congrats! Smiley
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September 04, 2018, 09:01:35 PM
Last edit: September 06, 2018, 01:23:49 AM by BSGMiner
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Essentially you are getting a smaller piece of the pie, but in theory there should be more pies.

Now for slightly better explanation. You are paid a percentage of each block based on the percentage of valid shares submitted. Lets say the pool is 100PH/S (please no) and you had 10PH/S. Each block you would take in 10% of the block reward and mining fees.

Now say 100PH/S join(Some generous genius giveaway), you now only represent 5% of the total, so your reward has dropped proportionately.
Sorry to sound redundant, but in my experience here, when the hashrate doubles, triples, etc., your block find rate does too, so the end resulting reward total is the same (e.g. 10%x1 = 5%x2 = 2.5%x4).

Mine on with Kano!!!

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September 07, 2018, 12:29:42 AM
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Block yay

The Best BTCitcoin Pool in the World: kano.is
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September 07, 2018, 12:31:05 AM
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Block yay

This is our 1st of BLOCK FRIDAY! Cheesy
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September 07, 2018, 12:31:18 AM
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Block yay
by sidewinder Smiley

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September 07, 2018, 12:33:11 AM
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Another BTCullseye by Sidewinder,whohooo Cheesy
MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN! Grin

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September 07, 2018, 04:34:55 AM
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Block! by cobramining Smiley

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September 07, 2018, 05:01:30 AM
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Another one!  Cheesy BTCBTCBTC
I had a feeling!

This is our 2nd of BTCLOCK FRIDAY!

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September 07, 2018, 09:16:57 AM
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Cryptouniverse has been kind :
Two A741`s arrived , built the controller myself and one of them added to the pool right now,with a new power source needed for the second (a few days later,hopefully).
Get that Fried Chicken Block Dance Groove on,
and MINE ON! Grin

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September 07, 2018, 06:57:30 PM
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Block by cryptostar!

This is our 3rd of BLOCK FRIDAY! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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September 07, 2018, 07:03:44 PM
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CRYPTOSTARUSA!!!  Triple Block Fridaytm on the one and only Kanopool! Booyah!  Grin

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September 07, 2018, 07:27:07 PM
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Nice that's the way to start off a weekend. Even better right after a little Diff increase.

Let's keep'em coming, makes me want to pull the trigger on an 841, while I wait for the A9 to launch.


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September 07, 2018, 10:17:17 PM
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Just spun up 900th on kano, has been two years since I had a payout.
Howdy all.
Ramping up my 5ND

For those about to block we salute you! AC->BTC
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September 07, 2018, 10:59:42 PM
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Just spun up 900th on kano, has been two years since I had a payout.
Howdy all.
Ramping up my 5ND
Welcome back Smiley
There's a link on the kano.is home page to join our Discord channel were you get immediate (well within about 1 or 2 seconds) block notifications and lotsa (random) discussions
It's actually quite a big channel with over 200 registered - so join in there also Smiley

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September 07, 2018, 11:43:32 PM
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Thanks kano Smiley
I'm long kano now
Had a fan explode switching over. Blades everywhere.
The high racks in the datacenter seem to take them out.

For those about to block we salute you! AC->BTC
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September 08, 2018, 03:55:06 AM
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Block! by cryptostarusa Smiley

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