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October 26, 2014, 07:31:04 AM |
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Why are you engaging people you perceive as "haters"? I'd like it much better before when you simply answered "Sorry that you don't like our project". Way classier...
I have stated before you are jumping the gun quite a bit with this otherwise excellent project: Timing is horrible. And your preparation, not having the platform ready to be seen and tested, is just inappropriate.
If I were to give you advice, I'd shelve the ICO, go back to the drawing board, apply the lessons learned and come back at a more appropriate time... just like IPOs do in the regular stock market. Proceeding ahead, as I have stated before, is setting yourselves up for a big disappointment.
I sense Jay is a ticking bomb and some of you are engaging inappropriately and dangerously for your image. But hey, it's your project, It would be just sad to see it damaged by stooping to unnecessary levels.
I hear you again Barabbas. Extremely rational and sensible. Please be patient. Like I told you earlier. We have other options Barabbas. I think you're gonna like what you here. 😉😊😃 I do indeed (like it). As a first step. Bergstake has to be explained simply and understandably and a working platform (at least for poker) needs to be made available for testing. If I undrrstand correctly, traditional mining is thus completely eliminated, right? barabbas is here trying to tell the devs what to do as usual... I wouldn't listen to a word this guy has to say , look at his track record he goes from thread to thread spreading fud or havoc lol literally his day job, vericoin ..pinkcoin.. he's well known in most bct threads. anyway good luck the project seems great! very big bummer barabbas is in here gonna drive people away while he tries to manipulate and destroy this brand new community
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bitarri
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October 26, 2014, 07:49:14 AM |
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ANNOUNCEMENT
We will be making an announcement on the state of the "coin sale" Monday morning.
On a side note, what does everyone think about removing the PoW phase and going straight to Bergstake from day one. This will eliminate the BRO coins and Bergstake issued to the "miners" and the coin network will still be supported by the Bergstake owners.
There is 2 years of PoW coins, where will the coins go? Will the total supply be reduced by that amount or will they be added to the ICO distribution? The two years of PoW (7 mllion) BRO coins will be eliminated from the supply. Removing the coins is a good option but I think it gives ICO investors more incentive if the PoW coins are added to the ICO distribution. If we had a vote, I vote for the PoW coins being added to the ICO. +1000 I also vote for the PoW coins to be added to the ICO. More power to the people!
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October 26, 2014, 09:54:39 AM |
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Definitely +1 to removing the PoW entirely. It's great to see that the team is really listening to the feedback here, and adjusting plans as necessary/adequate.
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October 26, 2014, 11:11:41 AM |
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Remove the PoW
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October 26, 2014, 11:35:14 AM Last edit: October 26, 2014, 01:48:00 PM by blue_wave |
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Though im not fond to change the whole distribution/coin strategy, but have to say i really like this idea. That means only participants in ICO will have bergstake and therefore this is quite an incentive for early investors.
Downside? This way few whales are going to stack up big % of all coins which is not what you probably want. Especially if you d like to distribute BRO to as many people as possible. And more people have BRO more people will attract playing games on your platform. The difference with Bitcoin is that BRO has specific use which makes it special and good basis for viral adoption. I would definitely send some BRO to a friend that plays poker etc. With Bitcoin, i have to take a day off to explain them benefits and useage.
Anyway, this should be well discussed and align with your expectations with the coins use. Maybe you could still use traditional mining for 1 year – 20mil BRO and then have POS with staking.
Also, what would bergstake be staking? Transaction fees?
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October 26, 2014, 11:53:41 AM |
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Remove the PoW +1
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myagui
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October 26, 2014, 03:56:11 PM |
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Adding to my earlier post: Since you guys are considering possibly removal of the PoW, I hope you're also evaluating different schemes that keep some duration of PoW, but with revised rewards regarding the total emission. I think that a short PoW for a (much) smaller amount of BRO, would still be beneficial towards a healthier distribution and reaching a wider audience.
Here's just an example, please don't take these numbers too seriously. Previously: 2 year PoW, generating 7 million BRO with Bergstake. Updated: 1 month PoW, generating 100K BRO with Bergstake.
However dramatic the change in total BRO generated by PoW, it is proportional to the initial plan, but shorted to a month's duration of PoW. It would allow for a wider audience to take part in BRO, as long as there would be pool support to distribute Bergstake to the individual miners. As stated earlier I'm happy with removing PoW entirely. I just think that we should evaluate all options.
Perhaps a vote should be called upon before completing the ICO? Could take a snapshot of investor opinions at halfway through the ICO duration, so that there's still time for others to make up their mind after a definitive plan is known.
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October 26, 2014, 07:00:15 PM |
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Adding to my earlier post: Since you guys are considering possibly removal of the PoW, I hope you're also evaluating different schemes that keep some duration of PoW, but with revised rewards regarding the total emission. I think that a short PoW for a (much) smaller amount of BRO, would still be beneficial towards a healthier distribution and reaching a wider audience.
Here's just an example, please don't take these numbers too seriously. Previously: 2 year PoW, generating 7 million BRO with Bergstake. Updated: 1 month PoW, generating 100K BRO with Bergstake.
However dramatic the change in total BRO generated by PoW, it is proportional to the initial plan, but shorted to a month's duration of PoW. It would allow for a wider audience to take part in BRO, as long as there would be pool support to distribute Bergstake to the individual miners. As stated earlier I'm happy with removing PoW entirely. I just think that we should evaluate all options.
Perhaps a vote should be called upon before completing the ICO? Could take a snapshot of investor opinions at halfway through the ICO duration, so that there's still time for others to make up their mind after a definitive plan is known.
1)Need a specialized pool 2)Need to change the algorithm Algo X11 - domination by miner farms (people with mining pools will be selling a lot of BRO and cheap) You want mine only on the CPU?
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October 26, 2014, 11:29:21 PM |
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As an ICO investor with a significant %, I'm losing faith in this by the minute.
1) What will happen if you don't raise as much BTC as you hoped (from what I read, 1,000 BTC was the target).
2) When will the gaming platform actually be released?
3) Is the technical work on the coin actually done and tested? From the sound of it, it's far from it, if you're talking about making last minute changes.
4) If it turns out that the ICO isn't worth it for you (it's seeming that's a possibility), what are your thoughts on using a sidechain instead, with its value pegged to BTC? Seems that's the way things are moving. There's no benefit to your customers of having a totally independent chain and plenty of drawbacks.
Hoping BreakoutCoin isn't a BreakoutCon.
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October 27, 2014, 12:48:42 AM |
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1000x no PoW. What changes will be made? sounds like something drastic is coming
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October 27, 2014, 01:34:03 AM |
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im still excited for the coin
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Point. Click. Blockchain
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October 27, 2014, 01:57:22 AM |
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+1 on the idea of removing POW. Hopefully, this will be a part of the announcement.
-tb-
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October 27, 2014, 03:23:33 AM |
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LMAO nothings changed 1) still don't know what we're doing 2) still don't know how we're going to do it 3) send Butcoins now Jon Ps something has changed only 23 days left to give away your Bitcoins so hurry and send them now Jon
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October 27, 2014, 06:29:30 AM |
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LMAO nothings changed 1) still don't know what we're doing 2) still don't know how we're going to do it 3) send Butcoins now Jon Ps something has changed only 23 days left to give away your Bitcoins so hurry and send them now Jon whatever breakout announces, i back them all the way
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October 27, 2014, 09:22:20 AM |
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LMAO nothings changed 1) still don't know what we're doing 2) still don't know how we're going to do it 3) send Butcoins now Jon Ps something has changed only 23 days left to give away your Bitcoins so hurry and send them now Jon whatever breakout announces, i back them all the way Same here ill throw some of my btc that way regardless what happens. But they could have gotten a lot more btc out of me with a Beta & thinking through the struckture of the ICO before launching it.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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October 27, 2014, 10:21:45 AM |
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LMAO nothings changed 1) still don't know what we're doing 2) still don't know how we're going to do it 3) send Butcoins now Jon Ps something has changed only 23 days left to give away your Bitcoins so hurry and send them now Jon whatever breakout announces, i back them all the way Mayhem you're the best.
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October 27, 2014, 10:25:19 AM |
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LMAO nothings changed 1) still don't know what we're doing 2) still don't know how we're going to do it 3) send Butcoins now Jon Ps something has changed only 23 days left to give away your Bitcoins so hurry and send them now Jon whatever breakout announces, i back them all the way Same here ill throw some of my btc that way regardless what happens. But they could have gotten a lot more btc out of me with a Beta & thinking through the struckture of the ICO before launching it. Thank you.
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October 27, 2014, 07:24:52 PM |
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YAY!! Sheep throwing BTC again for vaporware!!! "Hey guys give us BTC because we have this really cool project that we cant prove exists and we dont even know how it will work" LMFAO.
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JakeThePanda
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October 27, 2014, 07:29:06 PM |
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LMAO nothings changed 1) still don't know what we're doing 2) still don't know how we're going to do it 3) send Butcoins now Jon Ps something has changed only 23 days left to give away your Bitcoins so hurry and send them now Jon whatever breakout announces, i back them all the way Same here ill throw some of my btc that way regardless what happens. But they could have gotten a lot more btc out of me with a Beta & thinking through the struckture of the ICO before launching it. Thank you. Hey Randy, how do you fit into this again? I don't see your name on the team.
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J9901
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October 27, 2014, 07:33:29 PM |
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BTW if the the Breakoutcoin Twitter account should just follow Barabba's Twitter account: http://twitter.com/IconicExpert
You guys can just RT & Favorite each other there.
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