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November 05, 2016, 07:10:40 PM |
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But on the other I agree with the 80/20 rule: like Bitcoin in its early GPU mining days, it seems 80% of the hashrate comes from 20% of people who operate large Linux mining farms, while 20% of the hashrate is from 80% of people who operate smaller hobbyist Windows mining farms.
Of course: it's a law of nature (Pareto distribution). It is the balance point of several processes. You can't avoid it, just try to climb the curve.
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November 05, 2016, 10:32:09 PM |
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ZCash is being harvested. I prefer organic growth and innovation. The anwer is Monero..
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induktor
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November 05, 2016, 11:06:46 PM |
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So how many cards are you using and what the total hash you get now? THanks for sharing it, but it's not thaaaat good, they claim 61 Sol/s per GTX 1070 and I am making 45 Sol/s (substract the 10% dev fee and it will make 40 Sols/s per 1070 ) working on Kopiemtu 2.0 MOD 4 (lubuntu 14.04 cuda 8, driver 367.44. i monitor the internet activity of that miner using torch (mikrotik router) and no suspicious traffic, other than mining on my pool and the dev pool every now and then. so unless it has a delayed payload, it's good. just, not that fast ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) but so far the best i could find for nvidia, the lastest nheqminer (windows) only does 34 Sol/s per 1070. always at 90W TDP btw, max efficiency point. indkt.
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November 05, 2016, 11:36:15 PM |
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Claymore announced 100sol/s on the r9 290. You get 50 sol/s he get 50.sol/s. The silent berkeley kernel (the army of dickheads) is a piece of shit.
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November 05, 2016, 11:39:20 PM |
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So how many cards are you using and what the total hash you get now? THanks for sharing it, but it's not thaaaat good, they claim 61 Sol/s per GTX 1070 and I am making 45 Sol/s (substract the 10% dev fee and it will make 40 Sols/s per 1070 ) working on Kopiemtu 2.0 MOD 4 (lubuntu 14.04 cuda 8, driver 367.44. i monitor the internet activity of that miner using torch (mikrotik router) and no suspicious traffic, other than mining on my pool and the dev pool every now and then. so unless it has a delayed payload, it's good. just, not that fast ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) but so far the best i could find for nvidia, the lastest nheqminer (windows) only does 34 Sol/s per 1070. always at 90W TDP btw, max efficiency point. indkt. If you overclock the cards, you can get better results. Try coolbits 8 to overclock. But You must add monitor to your each card to enable overclock feature. Adding monitor to each card really a headache
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November 06, 2016, 12:03:22 AM |
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Yeah it is a mess to add virtual monitors to every card in linux, i will probably do it real soon now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) but not for overclocking, i will do it so i can speed up the fans because the default speed/temp curve of the g1 gaming fans, is shit, i mean 27% PWM for a card that is at 55 degrees, what the fuck gigabyte?!?!?. The card is too freaking hot, in ethereum i have the card at 55 degrees C (30 ambient) , and in zcash is at 58 degrees C (also 30 ambient) is a little to hot for my taste, the VRMs are around 65 - 70C, way too hot!. i don't OC my GPUs, ever, i never ever had a GPU died on me, GPUs here are insanely expensive (twice the price you guys pay in the US ) also there is no RMA service here, if you fuck up the card, you have to pay 150 dollars to send the card to the US and back, no freaking way ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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November 06, 2016, 12:28:43 AM |
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Yeah it is a mess to add virtual monitors to every card in linux, i will probably do it real soon now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) but not for overclocking, i will do it so i can speed up the fans because the default speed/temp curve of the g1 gaming fans, is shit, i mean 27% PWM for a card that is at 55 degrees, what the fuck gigabyte?!?!?. The card is too freaking hot, in ethereum i have the card at 55 degrees C (30 ambient) , and in zcash is at 58 degrees C (also 30 ambient) is a little to hot for my taste, the VRMs are around 65 - 70C, way too hot!. i don't OC my GPUs, ever, i never ever had a GPU died on me, GPUs here are insanely expensive (twice the price you guys pay in the US ) also there is no RMA service here, if you fuck up the card, you have to pay 150 dollars to send the card to the US and back, no freaking way ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . You don't want to know the price and rma procedure in here
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November 06, 2016, 12:43:19 AM |
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i don't OC my GPUs, ever, i never ever had a GPU died on me, GPUs here are insanely expensive (twice the price you guys pay in the US ) also there is no RMA service here, if you fuck up the card, you have to pay 150 dollars to send the card to the US and back, no freaking way ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Second hand market must be doing well there?
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November 06, 2016, 12:51:58 AM |
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Hey induktor.. Msi Argentina received my 1070 RMA locally, and they are sending them to USA free of charge. And they were bought at Newegg. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) By the other hand, the EVGA that caught fire is already in Cali, at my expense. sorry for the offtopic... anyways this thread is all offtopic ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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November 06, 2016, 01:12:01 AM |
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i don't OC my GPUs, ever, i never ever had a GPU died on me, GPUs here are insanely expensive (twice the price you guys pay in the US ) also there is no RMA service here, if you fuck up the card, you have to pay 150 dollars to send the card to the US and back, no freaking way ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Second hand market must be doing well there? HUGE!!!!!!! LOL, no really, used pc hardware market here is BIG business. You don't want to know the price and rma procedure in here
I guess i'm not the only one then ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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November 06, 2016, 01:15:38 AM |
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Hey induktor.. Msi Argentina received my 1070 RMA locally, and they are sending them to USA free of charge. And they were bought at Newegg. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) By the other hand, the EVGA that caught fire is already in Cali, at my expense. sorry for the offtopic... anyways this thread is all offtopic ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) hi _javi_ thanks for the info, i didn't knew it, the only local "good" RMA i know here is western digital, which i had used several times, always excelent, main reason why i keep buying WD drives ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) nah, black, gold, red and purple works fine!, blue and green are crap. offtopic indeed! sorry for that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) btw: (on-topic) ZCMINER closed source (linux cuda with 10% dev fee) works very good!, best i have tested so far for CUDA 8.
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November 06, 2016, 01:16:55 AM |
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Yeah it is a mess to add virtual monitors to every card in linux, i will probably do it real soon now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) but not for overclocking, i will do it so i can speed up the fans because the default speed/temp curve of the g1 gaming fans, is shit, i mean 27% PWM for a card that is at 55 degrees, what the fuck gigabyte?!?!?. The card is too freaking hot, in ethereum i have the card at 55 degrees C (30 ambient) , and in zcash is at 58 degrees C (also 30 ambient) is a little to hot for my taste, the VRMs are around 65 - 70C, way too hot!. i don't OC my GPUs, ever, i never ever had a GPU died on me, GPUs here are insanely expensive (twice the price you guys pay in the US ) also there is no RMA service here, if you fuck up the card, you have to pay 150 dollars to send the card to the US and back, no freaking way ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Where do you live?
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November 06, 2016, 02:21:45 AM |
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Are you still prioritizing nvidia support over windows support?
Yes, because supporting Nvidia is much less work than Windows. ETA maybe in a few days. Anyway, we are getting off-topic in this CCminer thread. SILENTARMY discussion should be held there.
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November 06, 2016, 06:06:47 AM Last edit: November 06, 2016, 06:17:20 AM by bensam1231 |
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Thanks to all those who explained why they prefer Claymore/Windows over silentarmy/Linux.
To rednoW who said "And Claymore is faster, especially on Tahiti" -> this is not true, silentarmy matches or surpasses Claymore even on Tahiti (especially when taking into account its 2.5% dev fee).
Anyway it is apparent to me that many features (temp/fan monitoring, pool failover, Windows support, etc) are what you guys want in a miner. So I will take this into consideration to prioritize my future developments. But on the other I agree with the 80/20 rule: like Bitcoin in its early GPU mining days, it seems 80% of the hashrate comes from 20% of people who operate large Linux mining farms, while 20% of the hashrate is from 80% of people who operate smaller hobbyist Windows mining farms.
More so then any of this, you realize you're in a Nvidia thread and that almost all the users here are Nvidia users? Currently there is no Nvidia miner besides the Nheqminer. I disagree entirely that the majority of nethash comes from Nix mining as well. People like to assume nix is this abomitable monster that controls everything... There has to be a reason to use it. Why would you use it when everything is worse about it in this example? Not only are GPU drivers more robust in windows, but tweaking and management is also much more robust. This isn't the way it works for other parts of the IT industry, but it in this case it's definitely true. A lot of the hash coming from a small amount of miners? Sure. That means they must use nix? No.
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November 06, 2016, 06:56:41 AM |
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Are you still prioritizing nvidia support over windows support?
Yes, because supporting Nvidia is much less work than Windows. ETA maybe in a few days. Anyway, we are getting off-topic in this CCminer thread. SILENTARMY discussion should be held there. if you want to work on such projects - then let me know ... there is progression on things that even sp hasnt taken yet - or is too lazy to fix ( like the spreadminer-spmod9 ) ... we have been working on a project or three in the background that spmod miner cant touch in hashrate or sourcecode - so there can be no copy and 'pretend' increases in hashrate by upping intensities in the code ... and i will be willing to take on another dev that is worth their weight if there is an agreement for privacy ... thefarm is a lot bigger in plan than intended and will take a little more time to finalize - so a percentage of a large mining system is more than just being paid btc on any development process ... i need someone that can help build the tools for this goliath that im constructing ... let me know if interested ... if i still dont get the required suitor for this side of the project - ill crowdfund it ... as its never been done before - but the numbers absolutely murder anything thats been before ... #crysx
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November 06, 2016, 11:46:04 AM |
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... sucking other peoples dick ... right up your alley.
You guys got determination. I'm looking for the real business angle here. I work next to countless engineering geniuses with free reign to solicit grants and hire programmers. That's why I gave DJ props. Presumably he made a decent return on his time invested, which is what interests me. I'm debating using my orgs' business incubator to put together a non-profit (no tax on mining, reinvest while gaining market share then go for profit), hire grad CS programmers to make and sell custom miners to the existing big farms (unless they can't consistently code the best versions), and use our EE's to crack asic's on previously gpu-only algos. Because mining alone with US tax, facilities, energy, maintenance, and other overhead costs looks unprofitable or highly risky as an investment over any appreciable time frame. You can do that, but I think your odds of success are questionable. The road is littered with corpses of guys who gave their boss the middle finger, said "I'm smarter than all of you", and left to chase bitcoin. Every once in a while they come on our radar and soon are gone. Yes, there are angles for profit but the industry you would be in is extremely irrational and erratic. Nobody in their right mind would loan you money, and your competition is people with free power / zero opex. EEs cost money, SW guys cost money, Fabs cost a LOT of money, and each and every one of these things you bring in runs you the risk of IP theft. It's not going to be very long before your key SW guy or EE guy realizes how underpaid they are, and walks away. So you either destroy your profit margin or watch your IP and principals walk. There isn't enough steady margin in this business to find a workable angle. And even if there is, what you've described is a really hard way to make money. Better off putting that energy into mowing lawns or building a restaurant or real estate. Greater returns, simpler, more scalable. I do mine, but to me this is beer money.
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November 06, 2016, 01:49:20 PM Last edit: November 06, 2016, 02:26:13 PM by induktor |
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Are you still prioritizing nvidia support over windows support?
Yes, because supporting Nvidia is much less work than Windows. ETA maybe in a few days. Anyway, we are getting off-topic in this CCminer thread. SILENTARMY discussion should be held there. Looking forward to nvidia miner!! i don't understand why people hate so much to mine under linux, it is the most stable platform on earth, designed from the go to be remotely operated, and totally standalone. but what do i know ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i am already mining on a closed source linux miner, getting 45 Sols/s x GTX 1070, hoy much your miner is expected to do? even if I have to use it in OpenCL there is not much difference with cuda (at least it wasn't in ethereum code, just 5% diff in performance)
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November 06, 2016, 02:48:10 PM |
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i was able to reach 33 sol per 1070, without any oc, i dunno why but when i underclock mem i get higher hash, tdp is at 50% pretty much like when i mine lbry, core is 0% ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.postimg.org%2Fp6b8bk41j%2Fmining.png&t=665&c=tJstkzLuntcz3Q) How many cards and which miner? 6 x 1070 x 33H/s = 198H/s, miner is the one of nicehash 3a, just need some tweak depend on your gpu My 2x 750ti cards this 4 core computer are doing 40 sols .. so 6 x 750ti x 20sols/s = 120 sols/s. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 06, 2016, 04:18:58 PM |
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What hashrate on 1070 or 970?
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