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Another block found and no payout again I think this guy IS A BIG TIME SCAMMER!!!!!
The block takes a few hours to clear. https://blockchain.info/address/39fPq9PpVs3c16SfbmQPCE4tqquzHBw9pkonly has 9 confirms. this is not complex if the pool runner has had 100 coins stolen we are going to be paid late time and time again. In order to have this not happen the pool runner needs funding or the pool needs a monster hot streak. By that 5 blocks under 70% and then 5 more under 90%. This would put the pool ahead in the payment game. I am going to give him more time as he has been around a while and does make the payments in full. My concern is that in the long run the pool is operating at a loss by paying out the extra 1% on 2.7 PH/s right now (about BTC0.32 per day). It seems like the pool is just one part of their business, so maybe they intend to run it at a loss to promote the other ends of their business. If so that's great for the pools miners, so long as the pool has enough to consistently payout even if it hits a string of bad luck. Otherwise there could be a vicious cycle where payouts are delayed, hashrate drops, and the pool can never catch up. That said, I've been paid out everything, even if it was delayed a couple times by one or two days. But I'd like to see whether the pool is able to handle a bad string of luck, say 4-5 days without a block while the hashrate stays roughly the same. It's easy enough to do the calculations to see what they have to payout everyday. If miners are confident the pool can payout despite bad luck, it might increase the hashrate and lower variance as well. |
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January 21, 2015, 07:38:31 AM |
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you would have to change the value everyday or every hour to get a good value. like I said, its impossible to get a good value. They should make a sub-routine "Command" in CGMINER that adjust the DIFF value automatically depending on conditions. That would be great.
Diff is set by the pool. It's not the responsibility of the mining software. Good pools with good pool software should find the best diff for you automatically. |
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kano
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January 21, 2015, 07:52:31 AM |
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... and another thing completely missing for their bitch slap argument  It is only crap drivers/hardware that matter what diff they use. There is of course a lower limit that could overload the network, or the CPU if the miner hardware was slow, but no pool should even allow anyone to mine at low diff any more anyway. Normal diff only matters if the driver or hardware is crap or badly designed. If the miner is OK, diff ONLY affects your variance, which for the number ranges being discussed, the variance would be next to unnoticeable. |
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January 21, 2015, 08:36:40 AM |
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... and another thing completely missing for their bitch slap argument It is only crap drivers/hardware that matter what diff they use. There is of course a lower limit that could overload the network, or the CPU if the miner hardware was slow, but no pool should even allow anyone to mine at low diff any more anyway. Normal diff only matters if the driver or hardware is crap or badly designed. If the miner is OK, diff ONLY affects your variance, which for the number ranges being discussed, the variance would be next to unnoticeable. Hey bitch maybe you would like to recommend A good DIFF rate for an S5 and and S3 since you like going around mocking everyone like you invented the bitcoin protocol put the proof were your mouth is or shut up!!!!!! |
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kano
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January 21, 2015, 08:42:37 AM |
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... and another thing completely missing for their bitch slap argument It is only crap drivers/hardware that matter what diff they use. There is of course a lower limit that could overload the network, or the CPU if the miner hardware was slow, but no pool should even allow anyone to mine at low diff any more anyway. Normal diff only matters if the driver or hardware is crap or badly designed. If the miner is OK, diff ONLY affects your variance, which for the number ranges being discussed, the variance would be next to unnoticeable. Hey bitch maybe you would like to recommend A good DIFF rate for an S5 and and S3 since you like going around mocking everyone like you invented the bitcoin protocol put the proof were your mouth is or shut up!!!!!! Both my S3s and my S5 that Bitmain sent me work fine on whatever diff my pool decides ... and I've not updated them either. ... I wrote the original modifications to the driver in cgminer for the S1 and S2 that fixed the bitmain problems ... |
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aurel57
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January 21, 2015, 09:35:50 AM |
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I received my payment in full (which the pool has always paid) a couple of hours ago. Good Luck
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Swimmer63
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January 21, 2015, 04:33:53 PM |
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I received my payment in full (which the pool has always paid) a couple of hours ago. Good Luck
This bitch is still waiting for payment. I choose each miner's difficulty setting using a random number generator on my iphone and it works better than any of yours. |
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philipma1957
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January 21, 2015, 06:48:40 PM |
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hit another block.
has anyone been getting doge or nmc ?
My doge are now over 700.
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Swimmer63
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January 21, 2015, 07:11:04 PM |
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hit another block.
has anyone been getting doge or nmc ?
My doge are now over 700.
Yes. 5700 doge. But it's not worth much. |
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philipma1957
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January 21, 2015, 08:30:09 PM |
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hit another block.
has anyone been getting doge or nmc ?
My doge are now over 700.
Yes. 5700 doge. But it's not worth much. agreed the doge and nmc owed me are small. he did catch up with the btc. note the nmc is paid |
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January 23, 2015, 06:28:35 AM |
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How do you gain bonus? Mine is currently 0%
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Datacenter Technician and Electrician. If you have any questions feel free to ask me as I am generally bored looking at logs and happy to help during free time.
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aurel57
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January 23, 2015, 09:30:45 AM |
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How do you gain bonus? Mine is currently 0%
They may have changed it to zero. I just looked at my dashboard and it shows zero as well now. It was 10% for a long time and was changed to 1% but maybe with the trouble the pool is having with doing payouts in a timely fashion they figured to drop the 1% as well. |
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January 23, 2015, 11:23:31 PM |
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... and another thing completely missing for their bitch slap argument It is only crap drivers/hardware that matter what diff they use. There is of course a lower limit that could overload the network, or the CPU if the miner hardware was slow, but no pool should even allow anyone to mine at low diff any more anyway. Normal diff only matters if the driver or hardware is crap or badly designed. If the miner is OK, diff ONLY affects your variance, which for the number ranges being discussed, the variance would be next to unnoticeable. Hey bitch maybe you would like to recommend A good DIFF rate for an S5 and and S3 since you like going around mocking everyone like you invented the bitcoin protocol put the proof were your mouth is or shut up!!!!!! Thanks for making me LOL. Kano and ckolivas may not have invented the Bitcoin protocol but they sure did and do develop cgminer... Point being their technical info is, well, accurate. Happy mining... |
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January 24, 2015, 04:10:18 PM |
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Long time since last payment... 0% fee PPS not works on long term and always ends with this kind of problem, time to switch to another pool?
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dog1965
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January 24, 2015, 06:13:51 PM |
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I already did this pool owner is a big scammer!! he steals your coins.
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January 25, 2015, 12:27:04 AM |
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I already did this pool owner is a big scammer!! he steals your coins.
So if the cgminer devs are "bitches" and the pool owner is a "thief," why exactly are you into mining? This is kinda funny... |
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SunnyIgor
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January 25, 2015, 08:38:04 PM |
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Long time since last payment... 0% fee PPS not works on long term and always ends with this kind of problem, time to switch to another pool?
still no payout! I'm thinking of switching to.... |
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aurel57
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January 25, 2015, 09:10:54 PM |
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Long time since last payment... 0% fee PPS not works on long term and always ends with this kind of problem, time to switch to another pool?
still no payout! I'm thinking of switching to.... It does get frustrating... I really believe the pool OP is not out to scam anyone but if the payments keep getting paid later and later and more people leave the pool the blocks will come longer and longer....with payments coming later and later.... |
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Swimmer63
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January 25, 2015, 10:10:28 PM |
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Unfortunately it's a cycle that is self perpetuating. Payments are delayed, for whatever reason. Then people stop mining the pool because they are not getting paid. That makes it harder to find blocks to catch up for those owed from previous days.
I stick with BAN when I can. But my miners are hosted at three locations and I get bills throughout the month. So I don't like to go more than a day or so without getting paid.
I will say the pool has always paid it's debts and I know of no one who was short changed. But unlike other pools, consistency in payments is not their thing.
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