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January 07, 2015, 11:52:34 PM |
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Other than only one person claiming they sold their coin for $20 or more after launch what do the actual stats today say? Quick checking Crypsy shows only highest price of $18 and a day after the launch?
Their mantra is on the day of the launch they did exactly what they said they would i.e. hit $20, and immediately thereafter (same day), they let it go as it was too strong.
Does it show anywhere on the day it went live it did indeed hit $20?
This No one sold for 20 bucks because gaw pumped it and then crashed it within seconds - anyone who thought they had a 20 floor and people dumped into are full of shit. It was all a scam to NOT pay out at 20 bucks. We all knew this here, don't know why the idiots don't think it happened that way. They are lead to believe this forum has been secretly hoarding xpy to dump. And they swallowed that bullshit hook line and sinker. You sell xpy your a troll because gaw are the fuckmuppets playing the stock market and taking all their money, gaw will not pump xpy again until they have at least 98.9% of the coins. They are bleeding out all their loyal supporters now, its a game of chicken with them. Nice way to treat your customers. Bleed them dry, then right on xmas/new year ram the price down so low their coin isnt worth much at all = this creates sell pressure on people and high emotions. Gaw will goggle up the coins like a whore to cock. Deluded people on hashtalk.
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wdl1908
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January 07, 2015, 11:52:38 PM |
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Daffy Daffy Admin Paycoin Origin @buckrogers yeah it's discusting they really are hurting everything that has to do with crypto.
Simple things make people happy. FAQs, Costs/Fees, Payouts XPY Tips PDaffyVfp5pUyHrP9o9BUdEkUFfxyWfaxJ BTC Tips 1DaffykYjohRjqVYMcGjgHgqBokBUekSH6
@daffy whats really hurting crypto is the lies josh told me to get me to get involved,will set a floor at $20,will buy your xpy at $20 up to $700 a week.You can buy at amazon walmart etc.You might shout Josh is the second coming on hashtalk but you are hiding the fact your selling off your account like other admin/mods on there but lie about it.Like josh your are just an out and out liar but the fact your admin you know about the scam and will go to jail with him.Better tell the wife you can lose your house over this when you are all sued
So where is your proof that I'm selling my account? Can you prove it? No You can't so what am I supposed to say to that? I can not prove that I'm not selling my account. But I know the truth. What is really hurting crypto is all the people that go around acting almighty and accusing everybody that the THINK are doing something wrong. GAW is not a scam and never will be a scam. They promised stuff yes and they could not deliver does that make it a scam? No it does not it just proves people make mistakes.
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TheBeardedMann
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January 07, 2015, 11:54:37 PM |
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Other than only one person claiming they sold their coin for $20 or more after launch what do the actual stats today say? Quick checking Crypsy shows only highest price of $18 and a day after the launch?
Their mantra is on the day of the launch they did exactly what they said they would i.e. hit $20, and immediately thereafter (same day), they let it go as it was too strong.
Does it show anywhere on the day it went live it did indeed hit $20?
I can confirm that I saw on Paybase, GAW was buying XPY for more than $20. This did not last long at all. But yes, it was being purchased (from what I saw, by the time my XPY was deposited, it went to market price) above $20. You might be able to find a couple people on Hashtalk that were lucky enough to get in on the $20 buy.
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Paul Revere
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January 07, 2015, 11:55:38 PM |
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There was no lie about a floor. They did honor that. Then they stopped.
Maybe you don't know what a floor is so I'll explain it to you. A price floor is a government- or group-imposed price control or limit on how low a price can be charged for a product.[1] A price floor must be higher than the equilibrium price in order to be effective To clarify; A single buy order of ~$500k that is eaten up in seconds is not a price floor. Promising to spend $100m on a $20 floor, then calling it quits after spending only $500k = lying. What? You mean taking all of the BTC available to GAW and buying up XPY listed by GAW insiders on exchanges with bots in a flash, skipping over many other listings, is not a floor? Hmmm. I don't think they could choose which orders to match unless they paid off cryptsy, and I don't think they did. Believe whatever you want there, Ikeboy. There are people saying they had orders in that were skipped over, some even posting right in this forum about it. That aside, the bots that Josh bragged about (bots can sell and buy) were most likely set with small placeholder sell orders in the $17-$19 range in readiness for the big buy from the big brain, where people in anticipation of the promised $20 buy were all piled at $20. When the bot buy began it burned through the lower orders and encountered the bots where all of the cash/BTC in the GAW coffers was dumped directly into insiders wallets as they sold off some of the infinite supply of XPY they are sitting on.
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All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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bananafana
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January 08, 2015, 12:07:01 AM |
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They promised stuff yes and they could not deliver does that make it a scam?
So your view is that they made a good faith effort to deliver everything they promised? Because if they promised something they knew they weren't going to deliver, then that's no longer just a "mistake." http://news.paybase.com/josh-garza-speaks-on-paybase-launch-with-amazon-shopping-using-paycoin/Tonight you will see the first merchant integration with Amazon search and shopping within PayBase. You will be able to purchase directly from within the platform.
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doogsan
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January 08, 2015, 12:07:42 AM |
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ikeboy
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January 08, 2015, 12:09:42 AM |
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There was no lie about a floor. They did honor that. Then they stopped.
Maybe you don't know what a floor is so I'll explain it to you. A price floor is a government- or group-imposed price control or limit on how low a price can be charged for a product.[1] A price floor must be higher than the equilibrium price in order to be effective To clarify; A single buy order of ~$500k that is eaten up in seconds is not a price floor. Promising to spend $100m on a $20 floor, then calling it quits after spending only $500k = lying. What? You mean taking all of the BTC available to GAW and buying up XPY listed by GAW insiders on exchanges with bots in a flash, skipping over many other listings, is not a floor? Hmmm. I don't think they could choose which orders to match unless they paid off cryptsy, and I don't think they did. Believe whatever you want there, Ikeboy. There are people saying they had orders in that were skipped over, some even posting right in this forum about it. That aside, the bots that Josh bragged about (bots can sell and buy) were most likely set with small placeholder sell orders in the $17-$19 range in readiness for the big buy from the big brain, where people in anticipation of the promised $20 buy were all piled at $20. When the bot buy began it burned through the lower orders and encountered the bots where all of the cash/BTC in the GAW coffers was dumped directly into insiders wallets as they sold off some of the infinite supply of XPY they are sitting on. If there wasn't enough buy to match all the sellers, then obviously not all orders would be fulfilled. That's true regardless of whether gaw chose which orders to fulfill; the two points are orthogonal, so your response is irrelevant. It's not possible to choose to fulfill a specific order; you use the best order at the time. You're saying gaw had some kind of extra access to give their bots priority in selling to themself, and I don't see evidence for that. A lot of orders were triggered at $20, so many weren't fulfilled. I had an order in that didn't get fulfilled. Unless we can track the orders, there's not enough cause to say that gaw was able to choose which orders to do, when others can't and they'd have to buy off cryptsy for that, when there's not even a large incentive. (How much do you think it costs to buy off cryptsy versus how much would gaw gain from doing this?)
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galdur
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January 08, 2015, 12:11:00 AM |
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Good news everyone !
It seems that Josh has delivered on his promise. No fees at coin-swap.
Also I tried to buy 0.00000010 XPY at 150 BTC but the honest system
ignored that nonsense and my balance is 0.00121532 XPY.
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Paul Revere
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January 08, 2015, 12:12:48 AM |
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Whoah- as I was reading that posts are disappearing. I was looking at a post from tanknjr where he said_"ya right- more like $1.85 floor" and *Poof* it was gone, and the whole thread started doing weird shit. Oh: And Ikeboy: I think you should have "GULLIBLE IMBECILE" tattoed on your forehead Bumfight style.
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All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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January 08, 2015, 12:19:37 AM |
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January 08, 2015, 12:20:39 AM |
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LOL you got banned for using the word ponzi, it auto bans anyone using that word
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January 08, 2015, 12:22:08 AM |
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LOL same here, in about 2 minutes. all i did was ask where the bongs were?
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January 08, 2015, 12:23:48 AM |
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January 08, 2015, 12:26:01 AM |
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Good. Somewhat mild on the disposal of evidence - "thread linked above is currently unavailable" - making those posts "unavailable" is a red flag potentially larger than the rest of the article, but time will come for that too I think. Otherwise some decent journalism for a change. While some people may or may not agree with CoinDesk in general, I have respect for Mr. Stan Higgins. He and I have been talking since last October and his level headed approach (even when I may come across excessively passionate about certain topics) is a testament to his rational journalism. Do I agree with everything he/or others at CD writes? No Do I respect him to remain unbiased? Yes Scott-
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MinermanNC
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January 08, 2015, 12:29:05 AM |
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Just getting in, looks like GAW got an ass reaming on coindesk lol oh well,
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*BTC: 1DiR25SPo84sThzTATr27EZEQZLt6hv6tG
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galdur
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January 08, 2015, 12:35:23 AM |
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Well, you´ve got to admit that if you can trade XPY with no fees
that shift looks somehow much more palatable.
Not to mention all the other shift there at coinswap.
For example now is the perfect time to load up on 66 coin
before it goes to 5 BTC.
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eoakland
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January 08, 2015, 12:35:57 AM |
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Whoah- as I was reading that posts are disappearing. I was looking at a post from tanknjr where he said_"ya right- more like $1.85 floor" and *Poof* it was gone, and the whole thread started doing weird shit. Oh: And Ikeboy: I think you should have "GULLIBLE IMBECILE" tattoed on your forehead Bumfight style. i can say that the $1.85 was in reference to a comment i made about McDonald's new jalapeno burger. he said it was not worth $2, more like a $1...then later replied $1.85. that was in no way a XPY reference. and the post is still there...nothing more to it
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