GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Buckeye2015]

btw, is this a record pages thread or there were longer than this? one thing i know for sure - it's the most funny one, sadly (or not) I learned about crypto after gaw was going all full ponzi

Actually, I've been wondering if there isn't a way to archive off this entire thread somewhere... "just in case". It's good to know that the operators of the site will stand up for the thread, but... it would still be sad to see this thread lost.

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[Buckeye2015]

It's not religion that blinds and binds them, it's greed.

"agreed" 

Absolutely, but religion and money have always been pretty close bed mates.  The holy roller, evangelical, and fundamentalist strands of every religion since time immemorial have been the preferred vehicle for chicanery, fraud, scams, etc.  Religion is all about **belief** usually most popular in the face of adverse reality.  So it is not hard for the con man to use religion for his or her own purposes as has happened throughout recorded history and will probably keep happening.

That is not to say that religion is necessarily bad, but that those who put their faith in a personification of religion (church leader) need to watch their wallets and try to separate faith and belief from fiction.

Unfortunately more than wallets... Jonestown was a guy that wanted to get into politics and used christianity as a way raise up a group of rabel-rousers to show his influence.. not a lot of people survived Jonestown. The problem is that the Bible is easily cherry picked to support any cause. I'm sure there are those who feel that this thread is 'persecution' and that persecution is a sign that they're doing the right thing and 'the enemy' is against them. That's how you get statement to the effect that (paraphase) "Wow, we must be scaring the bejeezus out of the big banks, look at how they're attacking all the GAW sites! Dig deep folks, buy more XPY!" ... when the sad reality is that the GAW sites are just badly built and run like crap.

[eightcylinders]

Here's the actual patent:

https://www.google.com.hk/patents/US8656049

Some of the images include the code, and the image 12 is the flow chart.

This wouldn't go far in a court. All it takes is one person with knowledge, and it gets invalidated right away.

Okay, that language actually looks like it was written by some sort of early AI language generator. If you read the linked page, it makes absolutely NO SENSE. How in the world did this get granted?

The most important part of the patent is the section titled "Claims".  That defines the scope of the patent legally.

The most important part of the "Claims" are the independent claims (e.g., the claims that do NOT incorporate other claims) #1, 10, 20, 29.  Focus on understanding those and the rest of the patent is really background/description.

How did it get granted?

As I said, the patent office will run a search on the terms used in the patent application.  They search mostly prior patents, as well as some journal publications.  If they come up empty, they grant the patent.  Sometimes they find similar patents or works (prior art) and then the patentee has to modify the claims to get around the prior art.  That makes the text of the patent and claims seem almost like badly written code (because it would be modified and tweaked to make it appear novel).

When a patent applicant uses terms that are new (to the patent office) like "code injection" it makes it harder for the patent examiner to find prior art.  A really good patent examiner with experience in programming would probably not have granted the patent ... but most have only modest experience or even none (just a engineering background).  So it is easy to bamboozle the patent examiner.

I have seen patents get granted on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without a crust, and more germane I have litigated patents with claims that cover tools to extract data from a database.  If worded properly, they can get past the patent examiner.   

That doesn't mean they survive litigation, but it is naive to think that  it is easy to kill even a terrible patent.  Killing patents is hugely expensive (millions of dollars), distracting (time and attention from your engineering teams) and uncertain even if the patent is outright shit (you have to convince a jury and most juries know about zero when it comes to programming).  Trolls take advantage of that. 

[Paul Revere]

Juliette then telling Josh she's pregnant with his scam baby?

Find it odd that I cancelled my augmentation consultation? Or that I did not move this weekend (didn't want to lift anything heavy)? Or why I have been crazy emotional? Or perhaps that my girls have been looking a little more enlarged? That I have been saying good night earlier, as I am crazy exhausted?....You are smart, I am sure you can put it together from here.

http://snipurl.com/29ukcjw

Ok now i might have a dark sense of humor at times, but this is just plain fucked up... Consider the situation above and read this chat Carlos sent to Josh...

Oh no I WAS WRONG!! That was sent TO CARLOS FROM JOSH! Wow....

Meanwhile, in The People's Temple of Joshtown:https://hashtalk.org/topic/36590/this-industry-makes-me-sick/214
Archive: https://archive.today/U3og4



Little do these brainwashed idiots know that their hero is the real scumbag that goes around threatening people and making statements about wanting to punch his girlfriend in the gut HARD while she is carrying his child.

[Buckeye2015]

Who is BigWoody?  Are they on the payroll or something... they're completely fighting against charge backs  ( https://hashtalk.org/user/bigwoody )

[subseaguru]

Who is BigWoody?  Are they on the payroll or something... they're completely fighting against charge backs  ( https://hashtalk.org/user/bigwoody )

im doing my part to keep the thread moving and on top

[I_IZ_CEO]

Josh owns shit, Stu owns all the patents this loser claims he owns.

-07-30 19:12:03 <Tim Davis> Tesla is great.
2014-07-30 19:12:04 <Josh Garza> Yea, I have one of those too
2014-07-30 19:12:06 <Tim Davis> Love those cars.
2014-07-30 19:12:13 <Josh Garza> It was a gift from elon
2014-07-30 19:12:40 <Tim Davis> I met Elon about a month ago here in Cali.
2014-07-30 19:12:44 <Jacob Wheeling> Haha. Something about those Shelbys I love. Just raw power.
2014-07-30 19:12:46 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Nice. I am waiting for mine from him. He ignores me however.
2014-07-30 19:12:48 <Tim Davis> One of my heros
2014-07-30 19:12:54 <Josh Garza> Tesla uses a few of my patents
2014-07-30 19:12:58 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Absolutely
2014-07-30 19:13:06 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Wow
2014-07-30 19:13:12 <Josh Garza> So we worked on a few together, and he sent one to my house
2014-07-30 19:13:24 <Josh Garza> For may last birthday
2014-07-30 19:13:27 <Josh Garza> My
2014-07-30 19:13:51 <Jacob Wheeling> Nice present!
2014-07-30 19:13:56 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Definitely
2014-07-30 19:14:04 <Josh Garza> Have not talk to him in over a month
2014-07-30 19:14:23 <Josh Garza> Well, besides text
2014-07-30 19:14:34 <Josh Garza> But he is not a guy to keep bothering
2014-07-30 19:15:14 <unknown_100345444655821864408> That is cool.
2014-07-30 19:15:20 <unknown_100345444655821864408>  I am a bit jealous.
2014-07-30 19:15:38 <Josh Garza> Don't be, he just like anyone else
2014-07-30 19:15:44 <Josh Garza> Just smarter lol
2014-07-30 19:15:59 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I would love to meet him.
2014-07-30 19:16:13 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I am not somebody who likes famous people but I would like to shake his hand
2014-07-30 19:16:47 <Josh Garza> You can, he is pretty easy to access
2014-07-30 19:17:01 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Brb
2014-07-30 19:20:06 <Jacob Wheeling> That's pretty cool!
2014-07-30 19:21:02 <Jacob Wheeling> So you also run a Internet company Josh?
2014-07-30 19:22:49 <Josh Garza> Among other things

What the fuck....Garza is such a loser.

Edit: ran a patent search for Homero Josh Garza. Guess what? ZERO results. Surprise, surprise.

Does the fucking idiot not realize half the shit he spews out of his mouth is easy to disprove? Like "let me spend 15 seconds" easy.

(sidenote: I also tried the search with the name "Chris Smith", which yielded 16 results, so the search works)

[Mad Macs]

Who is BigWoody?  Are they on the payroll or something... they're completely fighting against charge backs  ( https://hashtalk.org/user/bigwoody )

Not sure but if people file chargebacks against the ex-resellers that will screw us badly.  Most resellers had to wire money to GAW or use BTC to buy stock so we have no way to charge most of that back to GAW.

Something to keep in mind.

[Buckeye2015]

Who is BigWoody?  Are they on the payroll or something... they're completely fighting against charge backs  ( https://hashtalk.org/user/bigwoody )

Not sure but if people file chargebacks against the ex-resellers that will screw us badly.  Most resellers had to wire money to GAW or use BTC to buy stock so we have no way to charge most of that back to GAW.

Something to keep in mind.

I understand that, but you resellers need to be putting together a class action suit already in hopes of getting paid out of SEC activities. It sucks to be in the middle, but you did sell the 'product.'  So... why don't you resellers get together with the defrauded customers (GAW defrauded) and jointly register a class action against GAW Miners and Stu?

Believe me, I know it sucks to be a reseller in that position, but part of being a reseller is deciding what to sell.

[Paul Revere]

Josh's "Term of the day" From Investopedia on 12/29/2014. Synchronicity.

[wpstudio]

A little birdie told me that Josh granted 328% equity across all parties... Now he still has 22% equity to give away in order to reach the 350% staking rate of his prime controllers... isn't that how companies work???

[maildir]

bud  

should see the MAT contract brokerage on this one phew...

Subject:    Re: Brad
Date:    Thu, 01 Jan 2015 12:21:20 -0600
From:    Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
To:    Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com>


Did mean for it to come off like that broski.  I was just sayin that I cant help if I don’t know what the problem is from both sides. You obviously have a problem with stuff not working and brad may have a problem on the technical side. Idk. I’ve not asked. I been on that china grind for the past week or so so im out of the loop homie.

From: Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com>
Date: Thursday, January 1, 2015 at 12:18 PM
To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
Subject: Re: Brad

Where did you get side from? I just want to pay for a coin to work, that's it

I am 100% in my right to not be happy with something not working. I am also within my rights to not be happy and not have you make it a weird confrontational thing.

Honestly dude, if your going to operate like that, I will just do it on my own. It's gets pretty tiring. Anytime I have an issue with something it's "Whoooo man, those guys are amazing" etc

Honestly bro, I don't care. I just want to pay for something and have it down without the drama. You have the tendency to really make things dramatic. Take it for what you want.

Love you pumpkin

On Thursday, January 1, 2015, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com> wrote:

    Im not here to pick sides or anything like that.  Brad’s crew stands for itself. I don’t need to keep reiterating that.  The folks on his team are very renowned in the community.  So we can just dispense with all of that.
    You got to tell me the whole story man.  I will not jump in on the project without brad’s permission. Just an ethics thing. TBH we are so slammed busy.  I got back from china and taiwan yesterday.  So im pretty pooped. But I will call you after lunch.
    On the licensing part jonah sent me a link, people are stupid and I already said that you should be fine on the MIT stuff.


    From: Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com>
    Date: Thursday, January 1, 2015 at 12:08 PM
    To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Brad

    I have told him we will not pay for incomplete work. Stuff is not working (the primes are not staking). And when it's fixed, I will happily pay

    Even though many devs have told me that work he did was really just a clone of peer coin.....

    On Thursday, January 1, 2015, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com> wrote:

        We can talk about it.  Let me go grab some lunch and we will talk.  Ill call you later today.
        When you say flakey what do you mean?  If it is do to lack of work, I would double check with your accounts payable to see if your invoices are paid up. But that is just a guess.

        From: Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com>
        Date: Thursday, January 1, 2015 at 11:50 AM
        To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
        Subject: Brad

        can I get your help?

        The dude is really flaking out. The controllers are not working right, and his team can not provide an answer as to why.


        --

        Josh Garza
        CEO- GAW Corp


    

[Buckeye2015]

A little birdie told me that Josh granted 328% equity across all parties... Now he still has 22% equity to give away in order to reach the 350% staking rate of his prime controllers... isn't that how companies work???

Just don't tell Rashadh!

[ladrx]

Josh's "Term of the day" From Investopedia on 12/29/2014. Synchronicity.

https://i.imgur.com/gIuBhjC.jpg

Paul, I must say, your silly face drawings have demonstrated increasing skill over the past several months (and such entertain, many laugh). With how much material you have to work with now, I'm sure they will be near photo-realistic quality soon

[Mad Macs]

Who is BigWoody?  Are they on the payroll or something... they're completely fighting against charge backs  ( https://hashtalk.org/user/bigwoody )

Not sure but if people file chargebacks against the ex-resellers that will screw us badly.  Most resellers had to wire money to GAW or use BTC to buy stock so we have no way to charge most of that back to GAW.

Something to keep in mind.

I understand that, but you resellers need to be putting together a class action suit already in hopes of getting paid out of SEC activities. It sucks to be in the middle, but you did sell the 'product.'  So... why don't you resellers get together with the defrauded customers (GAW defrauded) and jointly register a class action against GAW Miners and Stu?

Believe me, I know it sucks to be a reseller in that position, but part of being a reseller is deciding what to sell.

We're considering our options at this point, but chargebacks will hit us NOW.  Filing charges against GAW means we get in line to collect "anything" which won't be much when it's all said and done.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

I think I just made a new friend. All I would have added is that faith has a HUGE part in Josh and GAW defrauding everyone. They worship him and follow him blindly. The proof of that is that they are still supporting him and denying the validity of all the evidence. They sure as hell refuse to believe Josh has been fucking them since day 1 and that that was his plan all along. So either they can't comprehend a single thing they read or they are weak minded faithful fools. I would bet the farm that many if not all are religious.

This whole thing does have a literal connection to religion which is the Clearpoint Church where their Communications Director Adam Matlock is allegedly under SEC investigation because of this mess.
http://coinfire.io/2015/03/25/paycoin-foundation-adam-matlack-under-us-investigation/

Josh is/was a member there. There is some concern over what role church funds might have played. Matlock is no longer listed on the site but since he's the Comms Director he likely oversees the web site.

I dug up info about Adam and that church months ago here and have been questioning how the hell he could ever have paid for PC's ever since. I am still waiting for an answer. AFAIK he has never explained how. I think he is just another lying fucking scumbag and I don't believe a single word out of his mouth.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10230749#msg10230749

[Paul Revere]

A little birdie told me that Josh granted 328% equity across all parties... Now he still has 22% equity to give away in order to reach the 350% staking rate of his prime controllers... isn't that how companies work???

Just don't tell Rashadh!

Not sure if you meant "Rishab"




I can tell you that you are going wrong because the whole thing is a fraud scheme. There is no $20 floor and the CAF consists of two IOUs written on napkins by Josh & Stu.  

[dquancey]

So yeah, this needs to made into a movie. Now.

[bumpershot]

A little birdie told me that Josh granted 328% equity across all parties... Now he still has 22% equity to give away in order to reach the 350% staking rate of his prime controllers... isn't that how companies work???

Yes, and Garza also started giving away web apps, firing employees, and divesting his company of all assets.

I'm pretty sure he saw The Producers and figured he could grant as much equity as he wants as long as the company ends up being worthless.

[maildir]

Subject:    Dev Assesment
Date:    Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:08:39 -0800
From:    Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
To:    Joe Mordica <joe@geniusesatwork.com>, josh@geniusesatwork.com
<josh@geniusesatwork.com>
CC:    FinalHash.com Elite Members Pool <info@finalhash.com>



Josh and Joe,

I am currently in the air On my way back to houston. Jonah and I already caught up this morning. I will be giving him 5 hours again this afternoon to finish wrapping up jonah’s thoughts into a cohesive format. This will give your team a clear picture after today on what needs to happen for the format and stuff going forward.

On the dev said, I will have to say that we will not be able to actively dev on the coin. We have too many non-compete clauses in place at this time. During the shuffle after vegas when you guys said you were using someone else we just got really booked up is all.  Nonetheless, I  am happy to refer you to a good team I know and trust. If you do not mind me sending his team the white paper after we have some cohesivemess to it I think he would have a better idea. However, two weeks dev time on this guy is a dangerous prospect in my professional opinion. Firstly, the shear nature of developing a new coin should take longer than 2 weeks. Secondly, if you bang out the source in 2 weeks and then launch you simply just don’t have time to sit back and look at what you did and think about how you can break it. That is essential in my opinion.

That being said, today I should be able to get jonah in a place to where he can lead the charge throughout the weekend on this paper. He and I made a dynamic team yesterday.

Let me know if you have questions going forward.