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* miaviator pushes suchmoon out of the way. Paycoin enemy #1! It's a prestigious award. I seem to have upset some people? https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/podcast-episode-5-josh-garza-gaw-miners-flee-dubai/https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37916/here-is-where-we-discuss-the-latest-post-from-the-mrceo-handle/19https://archive.is/kMddChttps://puu.sh/i4Ypi/ddaf58e530.png@colenel32 I agree with you (almost) entirely.
So surely, the logical thing would be to rally behind the only group who can actually make something of these investments, and perhaps it can actually happen.
And as for trolls - it seems that a great many supposed 'news sites' are nothing more than trolls in their own right. The editor of CCN writing under the pseudonym P.H. Madore is forever punting out misleading headlines about GAW - another 2 fresh ones today, both completely unsupported by anything resembling facts. These people are now totally desperate for Josh to fail, or their reputations will be quite deservedly toast. One of these new headline stories even interviews Paycoin enemy No1 Jonah !!!, and the rest of the so called news sites are just retweeters of this garbage.
My stance on this hasn't changed, all these lawsuits against GAW are so far just bluster, and the real lawsuits are actually headed in the other direction. I might be a voice in the wilderness, but I still maintain I'm on the right side of this debate. Let the courts prove who's right, not the courts of fudlic opinion, but the real courts of justice. https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37911/good-bye-for-nowhttps://archive.is/bXXsYGood Bye.....For NowMrCEOIt’s time to say good-bye. Good-bye to Paycoin and to the “leaders” of what can only be described as the now “tainted” Paycoin. While saying good bye is the end of involvement in the management of Paycoin, it’s NOT goodbye to Paycoin loyalists and investors.
Sadly, since the hijacking, extortion and subsequent theft of all the Paycoin controllers, the strength and value of Paycoin has only gone one place: down. It’s been weakened. Terribly. Since the end of January / beginning of February the value has one from well over $1.00, closer to $2.00 to just over $0.10. Wow.
I haven’t been involved in Paycoin, at all, in about a month…maybe longer.
The hijacking and subsequent extortion of Paycoin was done with the intent of decentralizing the coin. Not a bad intention, something had I been involved, would have agreed. But if one were to look now, the Paycoin Foundation is managing all the Paycoin Prime Controllers. How did that happen? How did they end up with just about all of them? Where is the “paper trail” that legitimizes their possession? Does anyone that is standing by this really care? (Asked rhetorically). I guess to some, apparently many, this is a version of being decentralized being managed by a single entity. But the “advocates” are good with that. Defies logic.
Today’s Paycoin is akin to blood diamonds (save for the lives lost), stolen from their rightful owners…investors, GAW and others. This method of operation has been extended to Mineral, which has also been hijacked…stolen by a “trusted” member of the community. And there was a requested vote by the thief as to what to do with Mineral. Imagine voting on what to do with the millions of dollars in jewelry obtained by the Pink Panthers. Who does that? People with zero integrity. People with no boundaries.
There is no integrity whatsoever in Paycoin in its current state. None. And what of those former employees of GAW who now are involved? None.
I’ve been called a scammer. A fraud. And so much more. My family threatened. Violated in ways unimaginable. But many are good with that…mostly a former senior manager and interim CEO at GAW who trolled us, then joined us, stood next to us and then aided those that stole from us.
But it’s all good, as many wish to stand next these folks. Have at it.
If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer? Something that could help change the way we conduct business both personally and commercially? These are questions I am sure many are afraid to ask, as the truth is obvious but hard to admit. For many involved in this underhandedness it would appear that being right is way more important for those individuals than being happy; happiness clearly eludes them.
Whether wrong or right in what was alleged, it seems there is a consensus that feels by doing wrong will make all things right. That NEVER happens. In fact, they are doing the same things as has been alleged that GAW did. As I said earlier, Paycoin is tainted like blood diamonds. Led by hypocrites.
I have stayed in this, as I have wanted to make things right for the investors of Paycoin as well as those that have stood by us…by me. And I will continue to do that, however I can. My goal…our goal was to foster adoption and utility of cryptocurrencies. The intention of Paycoin was just that. And I will continue towards fulfilling that goal.
I continue to look for way to make it right for our investors. But not everyone will be happy. I / we will try and do the best we can towards that end. I am not abandoning Paycoin, but going forward will have nothing to do with the leadership of Paycoin. I haven’t in over a month. And it’s just been in a downward spiral since being hijacked, stolen and extorted.
Perhaps that has to do with fact that these “leaders” simply don’t have the collective brainpower to realize the mission…the vision that was seen and started by others than themselves. That usually happens; when the vision or idea of another is stolen, the thieves are typically not successful in making those plans come to fruition. That seems to be happening with Paycoin.
All that said, I can not keep a single investor interested in Paycoin initiatives. They know my background, but as soon as they learn of the leaders, prime controllers, and a community that seems to largely be ok with stuff like this happening, They don’t want to risk their investment being taken from a “community” leader to only find the community be largely ok with it. Honestly, I cant blame them.
The funding was pulled from Paybase Redux, all the beta customers have been refunded. I have paid for CoinStand two times once to Adam, then to Phil. Two times is one too many.
I can not speak to coin card with any authority, but that seems to still be on track.
I have no good news to report today, just the truth. All hope is not gone. We have been diligently working with a firm to take back what was taken. This would restore investor confidence and get things moving again. So for now, it has to be the focus.
Some interesting times are ahead.
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May 29, 2015, 06:53:27 PM |
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* miaviator pushes suchmoon out of the way. Paycoin enemy #1! It's a prestigious award. I seem to have upset some people? https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/podcast-episode-5-josh-garza-gaw-miners-flee-dubai/https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37916/here-is-where-we-discuss-the-latest-post-from-the-mrceo-handle/19https://archive.is/kMddChttps://puu.sh/i4Ypi/ddaf58e530.png@colenel32 I agree with you (almost) entirely.
So surely, the logical thing would be to rally behind the only group who can actually make something of these investments, and perhaps it can actually happen.
And as for trolls - it seems that a great many supposed 'news sites' are nothing more than trolls in their own right. The editor of CCN writing under the pseudonym P.H. Madore is forever punting out misleading headlines about GAW - another 2 fresh ones today, both completely unsupported by anything resembling facts. These people are now totally desperate for Josh to fail, or their reputations will be quite deservedly toast. One of these new headline stories even interviews Paycoin enemy No1 Jonah !!!, and the rest of the so called news sites are just retweeters of this garbage.
My stance on this hasn't changed, all these lawsuits against GAW are so far just bluster, and the real lawsuits are actually headed in the other direction. I might be a voice in the wilderness, but I still maintain I'm on the right side of this debate. Let the courts prove who's right, not the courts of fudlic opinion, but the real courts of justice. https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37911/good-bye-for-nowhttps://archive.is/bXXsYGood Bye.....For NowMrCEOIt’s time to say good-bye. Good-bye to Paycoin and to the “leaders” of what can only be described as the now “tainted” Paycoin. While saying good bye is the end of involvement in the management of Paycoin, it’s NOT goodbye to Paycoin loyalists and investors.
Sadly, since the hijacking, extortion and subsequent theft of all the Paycoin controllers, the strength and value of Paycoin has only gone one place: down. It’s been weakened. Terribly. Since the end of January / beginning of February the value has one from well over $1.00, closer to $2.00 to just over $0.10. Wow.
I haven’t been involved in Paycoin, at all, in about a month…maybe longer.
The hijacking and subsequent extortion of Paycoin was done with the intent of decentralizing the coin. Not a bad intention, something had I been involved, would have agreed. But if one were to look now, the Paycoin Foundation is managing all the Paycoin Prime Controllers. How did that happen? How did they end up with just about all of them? Where is the “paper trail” that legitimizes their possession? Does anyone that is standing by this really care? (Asked rhetorically). I guess to some, apparently many, this is a version of being decentralized being managed by a single entity. But the “advocates” are good with that. Defies logic.
Today’s Paycoin is akin to blood diamonds (save for the lives lost), stolen from their rightful owners…investors, GAW and others. This method of operation has been extended to Mineral, which has also been hijacked…stolen by a “trusted” member of the community. And there was a requested vote by the thief as to what to do with Mineral. Imagine voting on what to do with the millions of dollars in jewelry obtained by the Pink Panthers. Who does that? People with zero integrity. People with no boundaries.
There is no integrity whatsoever in Paycoin in its current state. None. And what of those former employees of GAW who now are involved? None.
I’ve been called a scammer. A fraud. And so much more. My family threatened. Violated in ways unimaginable. But many are good with that…mostly a former senior manager and interim CEO at GAW who trolled us, then joined us, stood next to us and then aided those that stole from us.
But it’s all good, as many wish to stand next these folks. Have at it.
If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer? Something that could help change the way we conduct business both personally and commercially? These are questions I am sure many are afraid to ask, as the truth is obvious but hard to admit. For many involved in this underhandedness it would appear that being right is way more important for those individuals than being happy; happiness clearly eludes them.
Whether wrong or right in what was alleged, it seems there is a consensus that feels by doing wrong will make all things right. That NEVER happens. In fact, they are doing the same things as has been alleged that GAW did. As I said earlier, Paycoin is tainted like blood diamonds. Led by hypocrites.
I have stayed in this, as I have wanted to make things right for the investors of Paycoin as well as those that have stood by us…by me. And I will continue to do that, however I can. My goal…our goal was to foster adoption and utility of cryptocurrencies. The intention of Paycoin was just that. And I will continue towards fulfilling that goal.
I continue to look for way to make it right for our investors. But not everyone will be happy. I / we will try and do the best we can towards that end. I am not abandoning Paycoin, but going forward will have nothing to do with the leadership of Paycoin. I haven’t in over a month. And it’s just been in a downward spiral since being hijacked, stolen and extorted.
Perhaps that has to do with fact that these “leaders” simply don’t have the collective brainpower to realize the mission…the vision that was seen and started by others than themselves. That usually happens; when the vision or idea of another is stolen, the thieves are typically not successful in making those plans come to fruition. That seems to be happening with Paycoin.
All that said, I can not keep a single investor interested in Paycoin initiatives. They know my background, but as soon as they learn of the leaders, prime controllers, and a community that seems to largely be ok with stuff like this happening, They don’t want to risk their investment being taken from a “community” leader to only find the community be largely ok with it. Honestly, I cant blame them.
The funding was pulled from Paybase Redux, all the beta customers have been refunded. I have paid for CoinStand two times once to Adam, then to Phil. Two times is one too many.
I can not speak to coin card with any authority, but that seems to still be on track.
I have no good news to report today, just the truth. All hope is not gone. We have been diligently working with a firm to take back what was taken. This would restore investor confidence and get things moving again. So for now, it has to be the focus.
Some interesting times are ahead.
Errr: http://www.bci.io/files/gaw-bci-lr-executed-redacted.pdf Your internet reputation is now over 9,000. |
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May 29, 2015, 06:57:06 PM |
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I'm a pseudonym now. That's hilarious, ViK, given that I've been writing since 2003. What a dipshit. |
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May 29, 2015, 07:09:39 PM |
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HE THINKS THERE WILL BE ACTUAL REFUNDS oh wow my sides went to fucking orbit in a heartbeat |
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May 29, 2015, 08:05:25 PM
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Paycoin to the moon! CEOPIG will take you their! A coining for the world to the greater good!
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May 29, 2015, 08:42:22 PM |
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thanks josh
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May 29, 2015, 08:49:27 PM |
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Hmm, well judging by the amount of evidence it seems like he ran Ponzi scheme miners, then launched a Coin and said there was a 100 million CAF fund but there wasn't. The Coin itself was significantly premined to inflate only to certain addresses and used that to sell into the market in order to raise funds for adoption instead of the CAF fund buywall thing. This amount of selling then causes downward pressure on the price since all funding is coming from future investors and blaming others all the while he bought a bunch of cars with it (and later on couldn't afford the payments), lived a lavish lifestyle, from investors funds.
Where is the money coming from in which he paid for CoinStand? Was that money from remember hashlets? Uncle Stu? Anonymous investors? Why were previous bills of excessive amounts not paid?
What about the mass banning on the forums whereby anyone who didn't agree were banned? Shifting blame to others, crying when it all comes crashing down. The hyper inflating wallets and the way it's implemented is a bad idea because the keys can be leaked or stolen, the idea itself is flawed and a major security risk. All security seems to have been really bad as well, he let everyone else hold onto the keys as collateral for investment and pretty much everything got hacked in response to him banning so many people.
Please, disagree.
Didn't Josh admit that he dumped coins to pay for coinstand? A user sent him 50 paycoins for $1k worth of stuff from amazon, he sold a billion to get $1k and buy the stuff. Garzanomics at its finest |
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May 29, 2015, 09:08:27 PM |
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I can't believe I am complimenting the FBI but they are the only organization on the planet that decided to grow a pair and make the despicable fraudulent bastards running FIFA accountable for their crimes. Unlike Baseball and American Football, soccer is extremely popular world wide and nobody has dared go after these crooks until now.
Still sad that the first thing that comes to my mind is: Nice desperation move to take the 2018 world cup away from the Russians. Not that i give a shit about that lame sport anyways. You watch too much Russia Today. And the feeling is mutual about your sports. We have rugby where our players don't need body armor and motorcycle helmets to play, and as for baseball, we call that "rounders" in the UK and 14 year old girls play it. |
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Still sad that the first thing that comes to my mind is: Nice desperation move to take the 2018 world cup away from the Russians.
Not that i give a shit about that lame sport anyways.
You watch too much Russia Today. And the feeling is mutual about your sports. We have rugby where our players don't need body armor and motorcycle helmets to play, and as for baseball, we call that "rounders" in the UK and 14 year old girls play it. Sorry you got butt hurt about someone calling soccer lame rawbot, I mean, you are the one that mentioned it to begin with. what did you expect, everyone to love it too? Furthermore, your statement about baseball makes you sound like the 14 year old, considering my 11 year old daughter plays it, too.  PS - lighten up, it's Friday, ffs. |
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Still sad that the first thing that comes to my mind is: Nice desperation move to take the 2018 world cup away from the Russians.
Not that i give a shit about that lame sport anyways.
You watch too much Russia Today. And the feeling is mutual about your sports. We have rugby where our players don't need body armor and motorcycle helmets to play, and as for baseball, we call that "rounders" in the UK and 14 year old girls play it. Sorry you got butt hurt about someone calling soccer lame rawbot, I mean, you are the one that mentioned it to begin with. what did you expect, everyone to love it too? Furthermore, your statement about baseball makes you sound like the 14 year old, considering my 11 year old daughter plays it, too. PS - lighten up, it's Friday, ffs. You both lighten up and listen to CPIG now. Paycoin today has very cheap price, great time to buy for many riches!  |
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May 29, 2015, 09:37:16 PM |
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...After all, "With promise of pot at rainbow can fool be made to dance." I will dump a million or two of my premine for you soon! <3 CPIG <3 <3 |
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May 29, 2015, 09:37:24 PM |
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ViK must be a very important pig farmer! When you create clearances and certifications out of thin air.... The internet notices... No results found for "nuclear authority security clearance".  When life is like a video game.... Achievement unlocked: Received clearance described in a bill which died in congress? "enhanced security clearance" Enhanced Security Clearance Act of 2014. Introduced: Oct 30, 2013 113th Congress, 2013–2015. Status: Died in a previous Congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_workerEDIT: Personally I still believe ViK is tied to an international hacking group such as DD4BC and has been hired to a lot of Josh's hacking jobs. (Which we know he could not have done himself) It fits pretty well, the more deeply involved they were the more they would continue to shill for Josh in hopes criminal charges don't get filed which could lead to Josh turning against the group ViK works for. Of course, the alternative is that he/she/it is a complete idiot who works at a nuke plant in a european country as an IT specialist and got in too deep with Ganza. Ganza would have promised to or paid out to make ViK whole (Similar to the offer to Adam to make him whole, which was refused by Adam) Is there more options which fit logically? |
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ViK must be a very important pig farmer! When you create clearances and certifications out of thin air.... The internet notices... No results found for "nuclear authority security clearance". When life is like a video game.... Achievement unlocked: Received clearance described in a bill which died in congress? "enhanced security clearance" Enhanced Security Clearance Act of 2014. Introduced: Oct 30, 2013 113th Congress, 2013–2015. Status: Died in a previous Congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_workerAt least they seem to be happy together.  |
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ViK must be a very important pig farmer! When you create clearances and certifications out of thin air.... The internet notices... No results found for "nuclear authority security clearance". When life is like a video game.... Achievement unlocked: Received clearance described in a bill which died in congress? "enhanced security clearance" Enhanced Security Clearance Act of 2014. Introduced: Oct 30, 2013 113th Congress, 2013–2015. Status: Died in a previous Congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_workerEDIT: Personally I still believe ViK is tied to an international hacking group such as DD4BC and has been hired to a lot of Josh's hacking jobs. (Which we know he could not have done himself) It fits pretty well, the more deeply involved they were the more they would continue to shill for Josh in hopes criminal charges don't get filed which could lead to Josh turning against the group ViK works for. Of course, the alternative is that he/she/it is a complete idiot who works at a nuke plant in a european country as an IT specialist and got in too deep with Ganza. Ganza would have promised to or paid out to make ViK whole (Similar to the offer to Adam to make him whole, which was refused by Adam) Is there more options which fit logically? I would say it's option B "he/she/it is a complete idiot who works at a nuke plant in a european country as an IT specialist and got in too deep with Ganza" If he/she/it were part of a sophisticated hacking group, they would have the smarts not to shill and could write coherent sentences. Those certificates amount to having a bachelors degree in political science and working at mcdonalds. |
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May 29, 2015, 10:34:23 PM |
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Well Looky Here: https://btclendtalk.org/topic/251/coinbase-hackedhttps://archive.is/MerLI@VCollective Coinbase Hacked
Everyone check your coinbase account, i have had reports of 4 BTC getting purchased and sent to an address. 2 confirmed reports so far.
Coins were sent to here 1M8zzE2HHsPvBHUeKQ6wwD2B8bjHcBqnvd |
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