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[Indianacoin]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979103.20
Last post by a member named ianfoxley

Cmon man! Where is the damn proof with pictures?

I can just say, "Yesterday I visited cloudmining.website's facility (Big LOL ) and saw their miners are really hashing as if several horses are running in pairs. Wohoo! They are real miners. Everybody please mine on cloudmining.website from today onward. The owner of it is really a nice and humble person this Universe can ever find."

Will you listen to me based on the above stated verbal felicitations?
If yes, then you are a complete idiot.

[userghost]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979103.20
Last post by a member named ianfoxley

Cmon man! Where is the damn proof with pictures?

I can just say, "Yesterday I visited cloudmining.website's facility (Big LOL ) and saw their miners are really hashing as if several horses are running in pairs. Wohoo! They are real miners. Everybody please mine on cloudmining.website from today onward. The owner of it is really a nice and humble person this Universe can ever find."

Will you listen to me based on the above stated verbal felicitations?
If yes, then you are a complete idiot.

https://www.miningsweden.se/news/
Theres your pictures, look at november 2nd post.

Also in that same news catagory, heres the invitation to the barbeque that the member went to: Book a trip to Sweden on the 22nd of August 2015, we are having a barbecue party then in Boden so you can visit the site and see the farm. I´m also working on to see if we can visit the hydroelectric plant that powers the site with 100% clean power. Also going to see if it is possible to visit KNC and Facebook datacenter but that I don’t know yet if they will let us in since there is high security to get in there. But I will try.
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37634/invitation-to-barbecue-at-miningsweden-se-the-22-nd-of-august-2015

Granted hashtalk.ch is down, but what other mining company says "Hey come look at our farm!"

What kind of ponzi scheme takes paypal for a currency?

[IanFoxley]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979103.20
Last post by a member named ianfoxley

Cmon man! Where is the damn proof with pictures?

I can just say, "Yesterday I visited cloudmining.website's facility (Big LOL ) and saw their miners are really hashing as if several horses are running in pairs. Wohoo! They are real miners. Everybody please mine on cloudmining.website from today onward. The owner of it is really a nice and humble person this Universe can ever find."

Will you listen to me based on the above stated verbal felicitations?
If yes, then you are a complete idiot.

https://www.miningsweden.se/news/
Theres your pictures, look at november 2nd post.

Also in that same news catagory, heres the invitation to the barbeque that the member went to: Book a trip to Sweden on the 22nd of August 2015, we are having a barbecue party then in Boden so you can visit the site and see the farm. I´m also working on to see if we can visit the hydroelectric plant that powers the site with 100% clean power. Also going to see if it is possible to visit KNC and Facebook datacenter but that I don’t know yet if they will let us in since there is high security to get in there. But I will try.
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37634/invitation-to-barbecue-at-miningsweden-se-the-22-nd-of-august-2015

Granted hashtalk.ch is down, but what other mining company says "Hey come look at our farm!"

What kind of ponzi scheme takes paypal for a currency?

Nice to see people mentioning me in a post..

Regarding pictures, yes I did take some, post them I will not as I was asked by Hydro66 who hosts Mining Swedens miners not to share pictures of their facility. Think of that as you will.

Hydro66 is the company that hosts Mining Swedens miners in Boden.
http://www.hydro66.com/

They are a large company so feel free to ask them if Mining Sweden host miners there. whether they will give you that information is up to anyone.

Tommy the owner of Mining Sweden has posted many pics of the miners in the past. His new feed is updated now and then and currently at the moment he is visiting the Bitmain Factory as is he buying a large orders of S7s and Bitmain invited him to China to take alook around. So again.. feel free to email Bitmain to see if they can confirm also that this is the case or that Mining Sweden is a customer.

Regarding the trip to Sweden. Yes I did go there, infact was very disappointed because after all the effort Tommy made to invite people, only 2 of us showed up, we were shown the facilities which is the same place in the pics that Tommy shows on his website but since then he has moved everything to the datacentre that Hydro66 was building at the time, went to Hydro66s new datacentre which was almost built at the date i went but is now finished, went to the dam nearby the facilities and supplies Hydro66 with power, went to the KNC mining datacentre, wasnt allowed in but had a good look and a chat with some staff there who were outside who seemed to know Tommy quite well and then we went to Luleå to look at the Facebook places.

Perhaps next time Tommy invites people over to take a look around, people will come along instead of not coming along and then writing that the company is not real.

[userghost]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979103.20
Last post by a member named ianfoxley

Cmon man! Where is the damn proof with pictures?

I can just say, "Yesterday I visited cloudmining.website's facility (Big LOL ) and saw their miners are really hashing as if several horses are running in pairs. Wohoo! They are real miners. Everybody please mine on cloudmining.website from today onward. The owner of it is really a nice and humble person this Universe can ever find."

Will you listen to me based on the above stated verbal felicitations?
If yes, then you are a complete idiot.

https://www.miningsweden.se/news/
Theres your pictures, look at november 2nd post.

Also in that same news catagory, heres the invitation to the barbeque that the member went to: Book a trip to Sweden on the 22nd of August 2015, we are having a barbecue party then in Boden so you can visit the site and see the farm. I´m also working on to see if we can visit the hydroelectric plant that powers the site with 100% clean power. Also going to see if it is possible to visit KNC and Facebook datacenter but that I don’t know yet if they will let us in since there is high security to get in there. But I will try.
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37634/invitation-to-barbecue-at-miningsweden-se-the-22-nd-of-august-2015

Granted hashtalk.ch is down, but what other mining company says "Hey come look at our farm!"

What kind of ponzi scheme takes paypal for a currency?

Nice to see people mentioning me in a post..

Regarding pictures, yes I did take some, post them I will not as I was asked by Hydro66 who hosts Mining Swedens miners not to share pictures of their facility. Think of that as you will.

Hydro66 is the company that hosts Mining Swedens miners in Boden.
http://www.hydro66.com/

They are a large company so feel free to ask them if Mining Sweden host miners there. whether they will give you that information is up to anyone.

Tommy the owner of Mining Sweden has posted many pics of the miners in the past. His new feed is updated now and then and currently at the moment he is visiting the Bitmain Factory as is he buying a large orders of S7s and Bitmain invited him to China to take alook around. So again.. feel free to email Bitmain to see if they can confirm also that this is the case or that Mining Sweden is a customer.

Regarding the trip to Sweden. Yes I did go there, infact was very disappointed because after all the effort Tommy made to invite people, only 2 of us showed up, we were shown the facilities which is the same place in the pics that Tommy shows on his website but since then he has moved everything to the datacentre that Hydro66 was building at the time, went to Hydro66s new datacentre which was almost built at the date i went but is now finished, went to the dam nearby the facilities and supplies Hydro66 with power, went to the KNC mining datacentre, wasnt allowed in but had a good look and a chat with some staff there who were outside who seemed to know Tommy quite well and then we went to Luleå to look at the Facebook places.

Perhaps next time Tommy invites people over to take a look around, people will come along instead of not coming along and then writing that the company is not real.

@ianfoxley
The only issue that I have with miningsweden.se, which im currently a member of, is that "Tommy" will A) Will not answer any questions regarding the size of his farm, how many Th/s or Ph/s he controls and B) No news on the VIP shares regarding payouts or any ideas of what is happening. The lack of information lately is concerning me... Any ideas whats going on? I know he is in China right now, but im talking pre-trip.

[IanFoxley]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979103.20
Last post by a member named ianfoxley

Cmon man! Where is the damn proof with pictures?

I can just say, "Yesterday I visited cloudmining.website's facility (Big LOL ) and saw their miners are really hashing as if several horses are running in pairs. Wohoo! They are real miners. Everybody please mine on cloudmining.website from today onward. The owner of it is really a nice and humble person this Universe can ever find."

Will you listen to me based on the above stated verbal felicitations?
If yes, then you are a complete idiot.

https://www.miningsweden.se/news/
Theres your pictures, look at november 2nd post.

Also in that same news catagory, heres the invitation to the barbeque that the member went to: Book a trip to Sweden on the 22nd of August 2015, we are having a barbecue party then in Boden so you can visit the site and see the farm. I´m also working on to see if we can visit the hydroelectric plant that powers the site with 100% clean power. Also going to see if it is possible to visit KNC and Facebook datacenter but that I don’t know yet if they will let us in since there is high security to get in there. But I will try.
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37634/invitation-to-barbecue-at-miningsweden-se-the-22-nd-of-august-2015

Granted hashtalk.ch is down, but what other mining company says "Hey come look at our farm!"

What kind of ponzi scheme takes paypal for a currency?

Nice to see people mentioning me in a post..

Regarding pictures, yes I did take some, post them I will not as I was asked by Hydro66 who hosts Mining Swedens miners not to share pictures of their facility. Think of that as you will.

Hydro66 is the company that hosts Mining Swedens miners in Boden.
http://www.hydro66.com/

They are a large company so feel free to ask them if Mining Sweden host miners there. whether they will give you that information is up to anyone.

Tommy the owner of Mining Sweden has posted many pics of the miners in the past. His new feed is updated now and then and currently at the moment he is visiting the Bitmain Factory as is he buying a large orders of S7s and Bitmain invited him to China to take alook around. So again.. feel free to email Bitmain to see if they can confirm also that this is the case or that Mining Sweden is a customer.

Regarding the trip to Sweden. Yes I did go there, infact was very disappointed because after all the effort Tommy made to invite people, only 2 of us showed up, we were shown the facilities which is the same place in the pics that Tommy shows on his website but since then he has moved everything to the datacentre that Hydro66 was building at the time, went to Hydro66s new datacentre which was almost built at the date i went but is now finished, went to the dam nearby the facilities and supplies Hydro66 with power, went to the KNC mining datacentre, wasnt allowed in but had a good look and a chat with some staff there who were outside who seemed to know Tommy quite well and then we went to Luleå to look at the Facebook places.

Perhaps next time Tommy invites people over to take a look around, people will come along instead of not coming along and then writing that the company is not real.

@ianfoxley
The only issue that I have with miningsweden.se, which im currently a member of, is that "Tommy" will A) Will not answer any questions regarding the size of his farm, how many Th/s or Ph/s he controls and B) No news on the VIP shares regarding payouts or any ideas of what is happening. The lack of information lately is concerning me... Any ideas whats going on? I know he is in China right now, but im talking pre-trip.

Well I have a rough idea of how much TH/s he had in the summer but I will not say because I promised to Tommy that i wont disclose things unless he specifically announces things himself. It is respectful I feel. If you went to a mining farm and they said.. Please dont take pictures or you can take pictures but dont publish them, then again I would respect that. As if you lose peoples trust then you can lose out of getting the opportunity again and i certainly would not want to risk that.

Mining Sweden like most other legit mining companies wont publish the size of their mining farms.I am sure if you tried to ask Genesis Mining or Hashnest or KNC as example,  the exact size they wouldnt want to tell you either. They do that for many reasons and I have  not heard anymore about VIP shares or anything yet....perhaps email Tommy about that when he gets back.

I will also bring this thread to Tommys attention too and see if he can share some pictures again or other information to Indianacoin so that at least he can have a few things updated on this page. That is the best thing to do I believe. Perhaps you can mention this thread to him too @userghost

[lottery248]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979103.20
Last post by a member named ianfoxley

Cmon man! Where is the damn proof with pictures?

I can just say, "Yesterday I visited cloudmining.website's facility (Big LOL ) and saw their miners are really hashing as if several horses are running in pairs. Wohoo! They are real miners. Everybody please mine on cloudmining.website from today onward. The owner of it is really a nice and humble person this Universe can ever find."

Will you listen to me based on the above stated verbal felicitations?
If yes, then you are a complete idiot.

https://www.miningsweden.se/news/
Theres your pictures, look at november 2nd post.

Also in that same news catagory, heres the invitation to the barbeque that the member went to: Book a trip to Sweden on the 22nd of August 2015, we are having a barbecue party then in Boden so you can visit the site and see the farm. I´m also working on to see if we can visit the hydroelectric plant that powers the site with 100% clean power. Also going to see if it is possible to visit KNC and Facebook datacenter but that I don’t know yet if they will let us in since there is high security to get in there. But I will try.
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37634/invitation-to-barbecue-at-miningsweden-se-the-22-nd-of-august-2015

Granted hashtalk.ch is down, but what other mining company says "Hey come look at our farm!"

What kind of ponzi scheme takes paypal for a currency?

Nice to see people mentioning me in a post..

Regarding pictures, yes I did take some, post them I will not as I was asked by Hydro66 who hosts Mining Swedens miners not to share pictures of their facility. Think of that as you will.

Hydro66 is the company that hosts Mining Swedens miners in Boden.
http://www.hydro66.com/

They are a large company so feel free to ask them if Mining Sweden host miners there. whether they will give you that information is up to anyone.

Tommy the owner of Mining Sweden has posted many pics of the miners in the past. His new feed is updated now and then and currently at the moment he is visiting the Bitmain Factory as is he buying a large orders of S7s and Bitmain invited him to China to take alook around. So again.. feel free to email Bitmain to see if they can confirm also that this is the case or that Mining Sweden is a customer.

Regarding the trip to Sweden. Yes I did go there, infact was very disappointed because after all the effort Tommy made to invite people, only 2 of us showed up, we were shown the facilities which is the same place in the pics that Tommy shows on his website but since then he has moved everything to the datacentre that Hydro66 was building at the time, went to Hydro66s new datacentre which was almost built at the date i went but is now finished, went to the dam nearby the facilities and supplies Hydro66 with power, went to the KNC mining datacentre, wasnt allowed in but had a good look and a chat with some staff there who were outside who seemed to know Tommy quite well and then we went to Luleå to look at the Facebook places.

Perhaps next time Tommy invites people over to take a look around, people will come along instead of not coming along and then writing that the company is not real.

@ianfoxley
The only issue that I have with miningsweden.se, which im currently a member of, is that "Tommy" will A) Will not answer any questions regarding the size of his farm, how many Th/s or Ph/s he controls and B) No news on the VIP shares regarding payouts or any ideas of what is happening. The lack of information lately is concerning me... Any ideas whats going on? I know he is in China right now, but im talking pre-trip.

in fact, miningsweden isn't legit and they provide bonus session for guaranteed return, it is a point of the scamming, btw your signature contains the referral advertisement; not to let you cry for getting banned, i was banned for 7 days due to the signature ad (more likely is my referral matter).

[Indianacoin]

Well I have a rough idea of how much TH/s he had in the summer but I will not say because I promised to Tommy that i wont disclose things unless he specifically announces things himself. It is respectful I feel. If you went to a mining farm and they said.. Please dont take pictures or you can take pictures but dont publish them, then again I would respect that. As if you lose peoples trust then you can lose out of getting the opportunity again and i certainly would not want to risk that.

Mining Sweden like most other legit mining companies wont publish the size of their mining farms.I am sure if you tried to ask Genesis Mining or Hashnest or KNC as example,  the exact size they wouldnt want to tell you either. They do that for many reasons and I have  not heard anymore about VIP shares or anything yet....perhaps email Tommy about that when he gets back.

I will also bring this thread to Tommys attention too and see if he can share some pictures again or other information to Indianacoin so that at least he can have a few things updated on this page. That is the best thing to do I believe. Perhaps you can mention this thread to him too @userghost

Well I can only believe in this if Tommy clarifies your statement with at least some pictures.
Btw I don't see anything illegal to show pictures.
This is not NSFW I guess. If it is highly confidential he can pm me with the pictures and I will update the list accordingly.
But pictures, though not videos, are a must for "valid" proofing.

in fact, miningsweden isn't legit and they provide bonus session for guaranteed return, it is a point of the scamming,

Can you show me where it is claimed? I need to see the proof.

btw your signature contains the referral advertisement; not to let you cry for getting banned, i was banned for 7 days due to the signature ad (more likely is my referral matter).

That is not a referral advertisement of Mining Sweden. It is for Genesis Mining. Look before you write something.
No one gets banned for using referral links in his signature unless that link redirects to some NSFW stuff or a phishing/malware website. Get your facts straight.

[IanFoxley]

Btw I don't see anything illegal to show pictures.

When I went there, we went to two buildings that Hydro66 own. Tommy hosts his miners with them.
One was their original building where Mining Swedens, miners were at the time. Infact the pictures that Mining Sweden posts on the web are from that same building.
I was met also by a representative of Hydro66 and he asked respectfully that as there were other miners from other companies in the same building not to take pictures incase they included other companies miners in the pictures as well and I can understand their position on that.

I did not mind personally as the pictures that Tommy have already posted were basically just the same as what I saw in the building.

We then went to their new facility which was still being built at the time, which is now finished. We were shown around. Again the hydro66 representative asked for confidentiality reasons not to take pics. If you are being showed around a building, someones private property and they are asking you not to take pics then normally I do not.

On their website now they have pictures of that facility but then it is their discretion on what is allowed or not. Their choice on what to post or not to post.
It is their building, their private property so I respect that.



@lottery248 Next time Mining Sweden offers an open invitation to their facility, please take it up. Just so you can realise the truth.
Sitting at home and coming up with theories is all well and good but they are not the facts unfortunately. Now unless I was duped and the place I went to were inflatable miners with
speakers set up to blast out miner sounds and someone had very hot heated fans blowing hot air around the building whilst I was there then I honestly do believe that what i saw was real and not fake in any way.

[Indianacoin]

When I went there, we went to two buildings that Hydro66 own. Tommy hosts his miners with them.
One was their original building where Mining Swedens, miners were at the time. Infact the pictures that Mining Sweden posts on the web are from that same building.
I was met also by a representative of Hydro66 and he asked respectfully that as there were other miners from other companies in the same building not to take pictures incase they included other companies miners in the pictures as well and I can understand their position on that.

I did not mind personally as the pictures that Tommy have already posted were basically just the same as what I saw in the building.

We then went to their new facility which was still being built at the time, which is now finished. We were shown around. Again the hydro66 representative asked for confidentiality reasons not to take pics. If you are being showed around a building, someones private property and they are asking you not to take pics then normally I do not.

On their website now they have pictures of that facility but then it is their discretion on what is allowed or not. Their choice on what to post or not to post.
It is their building, their private property so I respect that.

Okay. I sent an email to Bitmain for validating your statement that Mining Sweden is their customer.
Waiting for their response.

I recently saw their news section (https://www.miningsweden.se/news/) and noticed this video posted. (https://vimeo.com/119996241)
But I do not think they were mining with Spondoolies SP20.
Please clarify if you think I am wrong.

[IanFoxley]

When I went there, we went to two buildings that Hydro66 own. Tommy hosts his miners with them.
One was their original building where Mining Swedens, miners were at the time. Infact the pictures that Mining Sweden posts on the web are from that same building.
I was met also by a representative of Hydro66 and he asked respectfully that as there were other miners from other companies in the same building not to take pictures incase they included other companies miners in the pictures as well and I can understand their position on that.

I did not mind personally as the pictures that Tommy have already posted were basically just the same as what I saw in the building.

We then went to their new facility which was still being built at the time, which is now finished. We were shown around. Again the hydro66 representative asked for confidentiality reasons not to take pics. If you are being showed around a building, someones private property and they are asking you not to take pics then normally I do not.

On their website now they have pictures of that facility but then it is their discretion on what is allowed or not. Their choice on what to post or not to post.
It is their building, their private property so I respect that.

Okay. I sent an email to Bitmain for validating your statement that Mining Sweden is their customer.
Waiting for their response.

I recently saw their news section (https://www.miningsweden.se/news/) and noticed this video posted. (https://vimeo.com/119996241)
But I do not think they were mining with Spondoolies SP20.
Please clarify if you think I am wrong.

When Mining Sweden started they were waiting for S5s to be delivered so they tested out some SP20s, only had a few..but the rest of their hashpower as based on S5s and then also now S7s from around October when they started getting some delivered.

 "I sent an email to Bitmain for validating your statement that Mining Sweden is their customer. "
Well will see, I mentioned it because he emailed all the Mining Sweden customers about what he was doing for the next week or so.

[galdur]

[tmfp]

Not that I care, but I've always thought that ^^^^^ was a crappy photoshop, amirite?

[suchmoon]

Not that I care, but I've always thought that ^^^^^ was a crappy photoshop, amirite?

Garza and Streng? Not a photoshop. Given how Genesis Mining is doing these days quite ironic too.

Archived in Garza's tweets: http://archive.is/sgWol#selection-28581.0-28581.25

[crazyivan]

When I went there, we went to two buildings that Hydro66 own. Tommy hosts his miners with them.
One was their original building where Mining Swedens, miners were at the time. Infact the pictures that Mining Sweden posts on the web are from that same building.
I was met also by a representative of Hydro66 and he asked respectfully that as there were other miners from other companies in the same building not to take pictures incase they included other companies miners in the pictures as well and I can understand their position on that.

I did not mind personally as the pictures that Tommy have already posted were basically just the same as what I saw in the building.

We then went to their new facility which was still being built at the time, which is now finished. We were shown around. Again the hydro66 representative asked for confidentiality reasons not to take pics. If you are being showed around a building, someones private property and they are asking you not to take pics then normally I do not.

On their website now they have pictures of that facility but then it is their discretion on what is allowed or not. Their choice on what to post or not to post.
It is their building, their private property so I respect that.

Okay. I sent an email to Bitmain for validating your statement that Mining Sweden is their customer.
Waiting for their response.

I recently saw their news section (https://www.miningsweden.se/news/) and noticed this video posted. (https://vimeo.com/119996241)
But I do not think they were mining with Spondoolies SP20.
Please clarify if you think I am wrong.

Yes, there were one of their first miners, SP20, long time ago when they started. That s an old video.

[IanFoxley]

When I went there, we went to two buildings that Hydro66 own. Tommy hosts his miners with them.
One was their original building where Mining Swedens, miners were at the time. Infact the pictures that Mining Sweden posts on the web are from that same building.
I was met also by a representative of Hydro66 and he asked respectfully that as there were other miners from other companies in the same building not to take pictures incase they included other companies miners in the pictures as well and I can understand their position on that.

I did not mind personally as the pictures that Tommy have already posted were basically just the same as what I saw in the building.

We then went to their new facility which was still being built at the time, which is now finished. We were shown around. Again the hydro66 representative asked for confidentiality reasons not to take pics. If you are being showed around a building, someones private property and they are asking you not to take pics then normally I do not.

On their website now they have pictures of that facility but then it is their discretion on what is allowed or not. Their choice on what to post or not to post.
It is their building, their private property so I respect that.

Okay. I sent an email to Bitmain for validating your statement that Mining Sweden is their customer.
Waiting for their response.

I recently saw their news section (https://www.miningsweden.se/news/) and noticed this video posted. (https://vimeo.com/119996241)
But I do not think they were mining with Spondoolies SP20.
Please clarify if you think I am wrong.

Yes, there were one of their first miners, SP20, long time ago when they started. That s an old video.

I found some of the others he did.

S5s that had been delivered.
https://vimeo.com/123831627

Some video in the place where his miners were running. This was the place that i visited but should have moved to the new place by now.
https://vimeo.com/125174209

[galdur]

No. it´s not photoshopped. Most idiots can trace images to the original source on the internet. It was taken at some conference in Florida a year ago.

Edit: sorry, not you suchmoon...

[tmfp]

Most idiots can trace images to the original source on the internet.

That would be how you found it then.

Why don't you fuck off back to opining bullshit politics, your input on cloud mining is not missed.

[galdur]

Most idiots can trace images to the original source on the internet.

That would be how you found it then.

Why don't you fuck off back to opining bullshit politics, your input on cloud mining is not missed.

Why so sullen? Was I bashing some nutcase in need of a straitjacket that you admire? The Clinton crapsos maybe? 

[tmfp]

Most idiots can trace images to the original source on the internet.

That would be how you found it then.

Why don't you fuck off back to opining bullshit politics, your input on cloud mining is not missed.

Why so sullen? Was I bashing some nutcase in need of a straitjacket that you admire? The Clinton crapsos maybe? 

Anyone who doesn't agree with you is always

some nutcase in need of a straitjacket

as your tiresome history of supporting every crap ripoff "cloudminer" ever pumped on here bears witness to, then shooting the messengers who told you they were in the first place. 

And just to confirm your lack of judgement, re: the Clinton mafia, I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
 

[galdur]

Tragic. Go jump off a cliff. Thanking you beforehand.