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July 02, 2017, 09:06:56 PM |
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Ohad,
Will there be a product ready to be tested by the end of the year? (December). A yes or no would suffice, so I can decide when to invest.
He answered yes a few pages ago. Timeline is 2017
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July 02, 2017, 09:09:00 PM |
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Man just watched all of the vids thats where available on youtube. I cann see a young bill gates or a Mark Wahlberg in you, hopefully in a few years I can cheat on my wife because a girl got a hard on for me cause I knew about you at the time that you were participating in bitcointalk. Keep it up man ! Cheers
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July 02, 2017, 09:10:46 PM |
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Ohad,
Will there be a product ready to be tested by the end of the year? (December). A yes or no would suffice, so I can decide when to invest.
Hi didn't guarantee, but mentioned that he hope the Alpha will be ready in 2017. I know Ohad for long time. He is fully dedicated to this project. Now that the sale is over he will allocate 100% of his time to develop Tau.
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July 02, 2017, 09:22:02 PM |
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Hi newf, icointalk,
Thank you for replying to me regarding ohad's plan. Of course, like many people here, I think the concept is super cool.
Few questions:
- Product is tentatively ready to be released in 2017. What are the bottlenecks? - Are you (newf, cointalk) also devs involved in the project? - I have never heard of a project where a single dev works on the entire development. It is always a collaborative process because one coder can make many mistakes. Ohad is the only dev working on the project. Why haven't others started working with him? What is slowing progress?
- I have looked at ohad's questions on mathoverflow and they do not seem to strike me to be of a sufficiently high level to warrant the title of "genius" surrounding the man. Undoubtedly, ohad is smart and hardworking, but to achieve a project of this level would take the minds of many to do properly. I want the project to succeed. Where do you see the innovations going without smart, efficient execution.
Is ohad planning on being the sole dev for time immemorial? Will new devs be hired as the project grows in scope?
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ohad (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 09:29:01 PM |
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the bottleneck is only me having time to finish the paper and the alpha. it takes time becaue i'm not smart at all, far to mention smart enough. the alpha itself is a collaborative development platform
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July 02, 2017, 09:29:14 PM |
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Can we set up a slack?
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July 02, 2017, 09:43:36 PM |
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ohad,
we appreciate you because you are: -honest -hardworking -modest
and undoubtedly smart. However, had Einstein taken Hilbert's help, he would have produced his theory of spacetime and relativity a lot quicker (for example). Things happened to work out Einstein's way, but had others seen Einstein's work and published it as their own, there could have been little done in the meantime by Einstein.
I believe there is a small community of devs who are suddenly interested in helping you with the project because of its potential. The pump on bittrex brought it to many people's attention.
Some simple requests from someone who believes in the potential of your ideas:
- An updated, modern website (I know this has been mentioned before). This is perhaps the most trivial part of it all. - Hiring of 1-2 talented devs whom you trust fully.
This will take a lot of weight off your shoulders and accelerate development. I fear that your ideas might not be adopted even when you release the product simply because of the long release times and lack of public outreach through modern communication systems. By far, these are the most trivial aspects of your project, but they happen to be important in today's world. From what I understand about nomic games, active participation of users is necessary for its growth and success. A knowledge graph cannot be built without contributors. I fear contributors might never arrive because of the current situation.
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ohad (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 09:47:16 PM |
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thanks, i do develop the theory of tau and the whitepaper (and the website) with more people. they're just not programmers. one cannot infer a single bit of information about the project before sticking around the irc for quite some time
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July 02, 2017, 09:47:50 PM |
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I am not involved with this project in anyway, however I do hold a large position that keeps growing. I keep adding on the dips. And I will not be selling for quite some time, I feel the project is worth at least $3 a token as of right now. And I advise others to not accept anything less either. Unless you only want to make a small amount after fees. Think about the real possibilities that are here. You sell for pennies now, and have to buy back in later at a higher price. If ohad needs any help with the writing of the white paper I will be more than happy to do it for him. Or at least translating it into words investors want to hear. I will send him something in a couple of days that would be considered a white paper for this project. Whether he chooses to use it or expand on it change it in anyway will be up to him. I know he doesn't need the help, and probably doesn't want it. But I will send it to him either way, and if he wants to edit it and let me re-edit it that's fine too. I'm willing to assist in anyway to protect and grow my investment.
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ohad (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 09:49:30 PM |
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I am not involved with this project in anyway, however I do hold a large position that keeps growing. I keep adding on the dips. And I will not be selling for quite some time, I feel the project is worth at least $3 a token as of right now. And I advise others to not accept anything less either. If ohad needs any help with the writing of the white paper I will be more than happy to do it for him. Or at least translating it into words investors want to hear. I will send him something in a couple of days that would be considered a white paper for this project. Whether he chooses to use it or expand on it change it in anyway will be up to him. I know he doesn't need the help, and probably doesn't want it. But I will send it to him either way, and if he wants to edit it and let me re-edit it that's fine too. I'm willing to assist in anyway to protect and grow my investment. i want help, and get help, and want more, but need to be well informed about the product (and more)
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July 02, 2017, 09:53:54 PM |
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i want help, and get help, and want more, but need to be well informed about the product (and more) Let me do some studying on everything tonight, and I will join you on IRC tomorrow. Then I will have you something in the next couple of days to review.
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ohad (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 09:56:16 PM |
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i want help, and get help, and want more, but need to be well informed about the product (and more) Let me do some studying on everything tonight, and I will join you on IRC tomorrow. Then I will have you something in the next couple of days to review. it will take weeks to get into initial picture. besides i'm not releasing all information just like that to anyone. and honestly i doubt how long it'll take you to reach a stage where you can write the whitepaper faster than me. let me just write the ideas in a paper, then i'll be more than extremely glad for your thoughts
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July 02, 2017, 10:27:20 PM Last edit: July 12, 2017, 03:56:47 AM by mprep |
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thanks, i do develop the theory of tau and the whitepaper (and the website) with more people. they're just not programmers. one cannot infer a single bit of information about the project before sticking around the irc for quite some time
U just never run out of bs . and to the guy who thinks he getting some kind of refund lol good luck.
i want help, and get help, and want more, but need to be well informed about the product (and more) Let me do some studying on everything tonight, and I will join you on IRC tomorrow. Then I will have you something in the next couple of days to review. it will take weeks to get into initial picture. besides i'm not releasing all information just like that to anyone. and honestly i doubt how long it'll take you to reach a stage where you can write the whitepaper faster than me. let me just write the ideas in a paper, then i'll be more than extremely glad for your thoughts Translation . there is no white paper or plan. Nothing have been done for years other then him pump and dumping saying coin will go up 10x.. He doesn't want your help cause he got nothing and doesn't wanna get exposed. This guy raised millions through lie and false promises and he has nothing to show other then a pathetic looking website. He doesn't want outsiders coming in to expose him. He just want to keep pocketing the money and then take off. We know nothing about this guy or any kind of concrete info.
Ohad do you believe the current value on the open market is lower than it should be?
As long you are believer that the valuation is low for the future, I will keep buying more.
And people should realize that there is a big difference in a correction and consolidation.
If ohad agrees the valuation is currently to low for what he is building this is just a consolidation period in the market. If he feels like the price right now is a fair valuation then this is indeed a correction. Because the price has corrected back to it's real value. Imo this has been a consolidation period since Bitcoin traders took their weekend profits. Chart has made new support levels which is healthy in trading. RSI is still saying it's oversold.
i believe that the potential market of agoras is trillions given wide adoption of the product. is tens or hundreds more than the potential market of any other crypto project. can think of it the following way: i got a world war here because i dont want to sell anymore coins. First this guy claims the price increase 10x then he tip toes around answering refund questions now he is saying he believes this project will be bigger then any other potential crypto project out there . he just said same thing with x10 price increase. Can any serous self respecting person be this delusional about how grand this project will be when he has nothing to show for and everything is a lie or an excuse. No reputable self respecting person would make such claims. And what u talking about mass adoption . u just pumped up the projects and a bunch of people jumped on the hype which is what he wanted. There is no mass adoption. This reminds me of Archcoin scam where the Dev also had these grand lies of creating floating homes. This is a scam everything this guy says is a lie or manipulation and he got nothing to show for.
What has this guy made for 2+ years? He got nothing but an old website that looks like its from 1998 and hasn't been updated and this is the face of the next huge thing? How can he be taken seriously. Millions in investments and he got nothing to show but a horrible generic site with very broad info. This dude made millions and this is the face of your brand you are going to put out? Wake up
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ohad (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 11:03:37 PM Last edit: July 02, 2017, 11:14:01 PM by ohad |
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i think that the tentative buyers dilemma is unsolvable without causing damage to any group. therefore i'll refund anyone who is not interested in locking. lockers will get june's price, up to a total limit of 4.2m tokens. the rest will be refunded. this can mean that each tentative buyer will get a refund of more than half the btc amount deposited. we'll know better once we finish refunding all nonlockers (or refund askers, though they all got refund promptly already). please let me know asap.
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July 02, 2017, 11:21:16 PM |
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i think that the tentative buyers dilemma is unsolvable without causing damage to any group. therefore i'll refund anyone who is not interested in locking. lockers will get june's price, up to a total limit of 4.2m tokens. the rest will be refunded. this can mean that each tentative buyer will get a refund of more than half the btc amount deposited. we'll know better once we finish refunding all nonlockers (or refund askers, though they all got refund promptly already). please let me know asap.
Great solution, I fully support it. 2 questions 1) the 4.2 million, is that spread across all June pre sale pools? I.e tentative and all others? I'm in the tentative pool so wondering how much allocated to that pool 2) how long is lock up for? Thanks!
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ohad (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 11:22:21 PM |
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june's price is one price, not several groups. the lock is until the final agoras coins will be ready. the current tokens are just to mark holding on the final ones. this is after tau is ready, then the dev of agoras begins. can take +1y
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July 02, 2017, 11:33:06 PM |
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june's price is one price, not several groups. the lock is until the final agoras coins will be ready. the current tokens are just to mark holding on the final ones. this is after tau is ready, then the dev of agoras begins. can take +1y
That's clear and fair thanks tons. I'll reply before the end of my day here in Sydney. What is best way to contact you re decision, PM here? Or email? Thanks again Ohad for facilitating all this.
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ohad (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 11:38:58 PM |
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june's price is one price, not several groups. the lock is until the final agoras coins will be ready. the current tokens are just to mark holding on the final ones. this is after tau is ready, then the dev of agoras begins. can take +1y
That's clear and fair thanks tons. I'll reply before the end of my day here in Sydney. What is best way to contact you re decision, PM here? Or email? Thanks again Ohad for facilitating all this. thanks, email with clear title
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ohad (OP)
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July 03, 2017, 12:01:09 AM |
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ok im listening
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July 03, 2017, 12:03:56 AM |
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I don't get it. I am a tentative buyer with btc committed. Ohad's terms made sense to me, very much in line with the way public co oversubscribed bookbuilds work.
Ohad - are the deal terms set or not? I am now unclear. I need to decide but I don't want to decide on a moving target.
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