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[LovSan]

The price of Bitcoin is equivalent of the cost to mine it not it's "real life purpose". No reason VNL would be any different.

totally agree ,VNL isn`t any better than Bitcoin for it is just another alt/clone ,so it is deserve for the futher price dropping until every singer miners leave

A clear example of how the price drop affects the human psyche:

Vanillacoin(VNL) is the best atm ,not only in micro transactions but also in mass transactions....cheapest and fastest

all i can say is....it's faster than lightning

as you can see the content varies greatly. From love to hate one step

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[doremi]

The price of Bitcoin is equivalent of the cost to mine it not it's "real life purpose". No reason VNL would be any different.

totally agree ,VNL isn`t any better than Bitcoin for it is just another alt/clone ,so it is deserve for the futher price dropping until every singer miners leave

A clear example of how the price drop affects the human psyche:

Vanillacoin(VNL) is the best atm ,not only in micro transactions but also in mass transactions....cheapest and fastest

all i can say is....it's faster than lightning

as you can see the content varies greatly. From love to hate one step

don`t get me wrong here,me and John were talking about demand and supply,not tech issues.

[bigfryguy]

The price of Bitcoin is equivalent of the cost to mine it not it's "real life purpose". No reason VNL would be any different.

totally agree ,VNL isn`t any better than Bitcoin for it is just another alt/clone ,so it is deserve for the futher price dropping until every singer miners leave

A clear example of how the price drop affects the human psyche:

Vanillacoin(VNL) is the best atm ,not only in micro transactions but also in mass transactions....cheapest and fastest

all i can say is....it's faster than lightning

as you can see the content varies greatly. From love to hate one step

maybe sarcasm doesnt translate well =P

[LovSan]

The price of Bitcoin is equivalent of the cost to mine it not it's "real life purpose". No reason VNL would be any different.

totally agree ,VNL isn`t any better than Bitcoin for it is just another alt/clone ,so it is deserve for the futher price dropping until every singer miners leave

A clear example of how the price drop affects the human psyche:

Vanillacoin(VNL) is the best atm ,not only in micro transactions but also in mass transactions....cheapest and fastest

all i can say is....it's faster than lightning

as you can see the content varies greatly. From love to hate one step

maybe sarcasm doesnt translate well =P

Maybe you are right and it was just sarcasm, otherwise VNL is a very problematic "just another alt/clone", cryptopia can't integrate it for more than a week already.

[STEALTHMODE]

Big red candle? Come on, it can't go lower than 16k. The only people selling right now are miners. Wait 3-4 weeks and there will be reward reduction. Incentive rewards are still rising + we have a great roadmap. Who would sell it now(besides miners)? When you are looking for a coin to invest some money, you can't really find anything better than vnl.

Most people are driven by fear, but if you've been attuned to VNL's activity you can see that it is just about to stabilize, and then begin another climb. Let them sell!

Its just TA! This is the best coin ever in my opinion! But TA for now(ichimoku clouds and bollinger bands) says small dip to support at 13-10k.

Told Ya! I predicted the big rise also just before(see posts). It's just Technical analysis! This coin is bad ass! I think it will fight back again to averages.



@John Connor Any exciting news?

Good luck all of you!

And the Rise begins....

[luckygenough56]

The price of Bitcoin is equivalent of the cost to mine it not it's "real life purpose". No reason VNL would be any different.

totally agree ,VNL isn`t any better than Bitcoin for it is just another alt/clone ,so it is deserve for the futher price dropping until every singer miners leave

A clear example of how the price drop affects the human psyche:

Vanillacoin(VNL) is the best atm ,not only in micro transactions but also in mass transactions....cheapest and fastest

all i can say is....it's faster than lightning

as you can see the content varies greatly. From love to hate one step

maybe sarcasm doesnt translate well =P

Maybe you are right and it was just sarcasm, otherwise VNL is a very problematic "just another alt/clone", cryptopia can't integrate it for more than a week already.

maybe they suck and can't handle something that isn't a dumb clone 

[STEALTHMODE]

https://twitter.com/bubblebobble123/status/656904180112732161 

[john-connor]

I'm not saying that it's John's fault... Just saying that to some people it does actually matters that we lost about 78% of the ATH value...

Regards

Goldmaxx

Only ... bought at ATH, so only those lost this %%%
Rest of us dont care what is the price, I am holding and mining this coin for quite long time and will continue to do so. If you are in such trouble you lost 78% from ATH, dont be in this coin, you only want a ride on the top and then sell it.. so forget about it and sell it now, you will be less frustrated.

I agree, long term holders don't complain about temporary market fluctuations.

Thank you for your support.

Which is where the problem lies, many here do think the price will rise a lot at some point but so far I have yet to see a coin make any substantial gains so late into its development. Most coins price peeks are actually within a month or two or release. The ability to say hey our coin is unique is often a narrow window looking at the history of crypto. I hope you guys arent too arrogant or too defensive to miss it....I fear you might already have done honestly.

As long as you guys are happy to hold a great tech that never gets used and gets overlooked then cool....don't let me stop you.

What other shitcoins market's do does not pertain to VNL. Your correlation theory doesn't compute. Use the Dash chart as a perfect example to understand your flaws.

Thank you for your support.

[Riseman]

I'm not saying that it's John's fault... Just saying that to some people it does actually matters that we lost about 78% of the ATH value...

Regards

Goldmaxx

Only ... bought at ATH, so only those lost this %%%
Rest of us dont care what is the price, I am holding and mining this coin for quite long time and will continue to do so. If you are in such trouble you lost 78% from ATH, dont be in this coin, you only want a ride on the top and then sell it.. so forget about it and sell it now, you will be less frustrated.

I agree, long term holders don't complain about temporary market fluctuations.

Thank you for your support.

Which is where the problem lies, many here do think the price will rise a lot at some point but so far I have yet to see a coin make any substantial gains so late into its development. Most coins price peeks are actually within a month or two or release. The ability to say hey our coin is unique is often a narrow window looking at the history of crypto. I hope you guys arent too arrogant or too defensive to miss it....I fear you might already have done honestly.

As long as you guys are happy to hold a great tech that never gets used and gets overlooked then cool....don't let me stop you.

What other shitcoins market's do does not pertain to VNL. Your correlation theory doesn't compute. Use the Dash chart as a perfect example to understand your flaws.

Thank you for your support.

I'd disagree with that. As far as I've seen most crypto performs similar on the market. Coins with superior tech usually stand out by three things:

- higher volume
- not getting abandoned and delisted from exchanges
- possible pumps long after the first big pump (usually smaller)

Otherwise their charts look pretty much the same. And Dash you mentioned is a perfect example: they have the same speculative pump-and-dump rollercoaster as most crypto does, only it had happened twice already.

[john-connor]

What other shitcoins market's do does not pertain to VNL. Your correlation theory doesn't compute. Use the Dash chart as a perfect example to understand your flaws.

Thank you for your support.

I'd disagree with that. As far as I've seen most crypto performs similar on the market. Coins with superior tech usually stand out by three things:

- higher volume
- not getting abandoned and delisted from exchanges
- possible pumps long after the first big pump (usually smaller)

Otherwise their charts look pretty much the same. And Dash you mentioned is a perfect example: they have the same speculative pump-and-dump rollercoaster as most crypto does, only it had happened twice already.

I disagree because you come without facts (links to prove your theory). On the other hand VNL is only 10 months old. Come back in a year and see.

Thank you for your support.

[nextgencoin]

well if everyone actually bought the coin and not at bargain basement prices then maybe we could get a rally on and maintain a more respectable floor price.

Put your money where your mouth is and buy if these coins are gonna be worth 1$ in a year or two....it looks like the low is possibly in.

[Riseman]

What other shitcoins market's do does not pertain to VNL. Your correlation theory doesn't compute. Use the Dash chart as a perfect example to understand your flaws.

Thank you for your support.

I'd disagree with that. As far as I've seen most crypto performs similar on the market. Coins with superior tech usually stand out by three things:

- higher volume
- not getting abandoned and delisted from exchanges
- possible pumps long after the first big pump (usually smaller)

Otherwise their charts look pretty much the same. And Dash you mentioned is a perfect example: they have the same speculative pump-and-dump rollercoaster as most crypto does, only it had happened twice already.

I disagree because you come without facts (links to prove your theory). On the other hand VNL is only 10 months old. Come back in a year and see.

Thank you for your support.

So as you do. Do you want a link to every single altcoin chart? Or a link to Dash chart? Or a link to VNL chart?

To be clear I'm not preaching against VNL here. I'm just saying that altcoin market has its own ways.

[hughbt]

Usually I don't post things like this but VNL and Peercoin are similar in some way. Both are not clones of Bitcoin. Market conditions were totally different, that's probably why VNL is now ~10x cheaper than Peercoin at that moment.

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[etoque]

Interesting.. lets see that

[john-connor]

To be clear I'm not preaching against VNL here. I'm just saying that altcoin market has its own ways.

I'm not selling a single VNL. Good luck on your quest.

Thank you for your support.

[pseudonymdude]

What other shitcoins market's do does not pertain to VNL. Your correlation theory doesn't compute. Use the Dash chart as a perfect example to understand your flaws.

Thank you for your support.

I'd disagree with that. As far as I've seen most crypto performs similar on the market. Coins with superior tech usually stand out by three things:

- higher volume
- not getting abandoned and delisted from exchanges
- possible pumps long after the first big pump (usually smaller)

Otherwise their charts look pretty much the same. And Dash you mentioned is a perfect example: they have the same speculative pump-and-dump rollercoaster as most crypto does, only it had happened twice already.

I disagree because you come without facts (links to prove your theory). On the other hand VNL is only 10 months old. Come back in a year and see.

Thank you for your support.

So as you do. Do you want a link to every single altcoin chart? Or a link to Dash chart? Or a link to VNL chart?

To be clear I'm not preaching against VNL here. I'm just saying that altcoin market has its own ways.

That's because, with few exceptions, most other altcoins only offer gimmicks.  The sole purpose of their creation was to make the creator, or those who paid the creator, money.

John is trying to build VNL into a scalable, decentralized currency that won't have to centralize in the future.  Again, Bitcoin will most likely have to centralize over the next few decades for a variety of reasons.

Also, Dash hit almost $70 million when the vast majority of Dash coins that were mined, were instamined.  That means with 22 million total coins, Dash had launched for 6 months and had a future valuation of $350 million.  Dash obviously had to crash hard at some point.

I guess VNL was pumped to $1.5 million, but even at $1.5 million, VNL still deserved to be worth more than the vast majority of coins that had a higher market cap.  It's just that not enough people realize what VNL is offering yet.

[john-connor]

Usually I don't post things like this but VNL and Peercoin are similar in some way. Both are not clones of Bitcoin. Market conditions were totally different, that's probably why VNL is now ~10x cheaper than Peercoin at that moment.

UPDATE

These are charts (facts ) I can agree with.

Thank you for your support.

[john-connor]

That's because, with few exceptions, most other altcoins only offer gimmicks.  The sole purpose of their creation was to make the creator, or those who paid the creator, money.

John is trying to build VNL into a scalable, decentralized currency that won't have to centralize in the future.  Again, Bitcoin will most likely have to centralize over the next few decades for a variety of reasons.

Also, Dash hit almost $70 million when the vast majority of Dash coins that were mined, were instamined.  That means with 22 million total coins, Dash had launched for 6 months and had a future valuation of $350 million with Evan owning maybe a third or more of that.  Dash obviously had to crash hard at some point.

I guess VNL was pumped to $1.5 million, but even at $1.5 million, VNL still deserved to be worth more than the vast majority of coins that had a higher market cap.  It's just that not enough people realize what VNL is offering yet.

99% of altcoins cannot scale long term. This means VNL has a 99% chance at beating all but 1% of them by doing absolutely nothing to the code. For instance, XMR is currently seeing it's death with a 4+ GB in-memory blockchain and zero scalability built into the network. In the next year we will see judgement day.

Thank you for your support.

[Riseman]

Usually I don't post things like this but VNL and Peercoin are similar in some way. Both are not clones of Bitcoin. Market conditions were totally different, that's probably why VNL is now ~10x cheaper than Peercoin at that moment.

I'd like to add that November 2013 was a "special" time - the time of Bitcoin bubble. So the Peercoin rise is most likely caused by it, as the rise of many alts at that time. But nowadays altcoins seem to retain their fiat price when BTC rises rather than rising with it like before.

[heartastack]

The 'old world' of altcoins is dead. It died with Mintpal and the scams that preceeded it. It also died with the knowledge that bitcoin wasn't being mass adopted it was being mass manipulated. We will thus see all good alts undervalue before the next boom cycle.

VNL is probably the first 'new world' alts I have bought.