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September 11, 2014, 04:44:57 PM |
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Does anyone have a good estimate of what sort of margin AM could achieve at various electricity costs? I'm not too good at figuring that out and it would be helpful to try to figure out what shareholders could expect from mining income.
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EternalWingsofGod
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September 11, 2014, 04:54:27 PM |
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does btcguild limit 10btc per withdrawl on the topside?
im assuming they do.
Maybe it was set to do that Either that or can someone name an exchange that limits it to 10 BTC an hour |
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Chalkbot
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September 11, 2014, 05:00:02 PM |
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So, considering that a user at BTC guild has control over payout schedule and amounts, what makes people believe they have more than what the known hash power at BTC guild represents?
Certainly they could have been accumulating for a couple months now, and these coins are just coming out of that balance.
Did I miss something?
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KarmaShark
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September 11, 2014, 05:03:48 PM |
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So, considering that a user at BTC guild has control over payout schedule and amounts, what makes people believe they have more than what the known hash power at BTC guild represents?
Certainly they could have been accumulating for a couple months now, and these coins are just coming out of that balance.
Did I miss something?
That seems plausible. Fried Cat may have been quietly amassing serious coinage since mid-July. It almost makes good sense given he announced they had finally located sites that offer cheap electricity and ample space for deployment. I mentioned this yesterday, it would be very Fried Cat-ish to keep the mining income hush-hush until he is ready to release the hounds. There could be thousands of Bitcoin already amassed, trickling out at 10BTC per hour. September is shaping up very nice with this development and the rumored Gen4 tapeout occurring at some point in the next few weeks. Timing couldn't be better with big news for the currency itself hitting the wires (Coinbase + Paypal). |
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sngwinner
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September 11, 2014, 05:10:50 PM |
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No one seems to mentioning that a large number of chips supposedly went to franchise partners. I'm willing to bet that what AM is mining on bTCguild isn't all of their mining income.
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September 11, 2014, 05:15:21 PM |
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hmmm. So, if I had 1000 BTC sitting on guild. (which I don't)
And I lowered my withdrawl amount to 10 BTC.
It would send me my limit amount every hour until it fell below that amount.
This seems the most logical explanation. BTCguild's hasn't found enough blocks in the last hours to account for this. But 270TH mining from mid July would make about 350 BTC (REALLY rough number). We will see if this is correct in about 15 hours.  Sorry to spoil the mood... Ahem... TO THE MOON!!!1!!  |
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Bonam
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September 11, 2014, 05:24:24 PM |
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The shares seem to have come back down on Havelock. Pump and dump?
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jjdub7
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September 11, 2014, 05:33:42 PM |
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The shares seem to have come back down on Havelock. Pump and dump?
I'm gonna lol if it turns out they just didn't make the hourly queue and it keeps paying in for the rest of the day |
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September 11, 2014, 05:54:33 PM |
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The shares seem to have come back down on Havelock. Pump and dump?
I'm gonna lol if it turns out they just didn't make the hourly queue and it keeps paying in for the rest of the day < 10 mins to find out. Get those speculative orders in. |
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ensurance982
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September 11, 2014, 06:13:55 PM |
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The shares seem to have come back down on Havelock. Pump and dump?
I'm gonna lol if it turns out they just didn't make the hourly queue and it keeps paying in for the rest of the day < 10 mins to find out. Get those speculative orders in. Well, that's it. Cue the bears who say all the coins mined since 'mid July' are now withdrawn to the dividends address and we'll be in for a more than meager dividend of 0.000333145 BTC/share... |
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Bonam
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September 11, 2014, 06:16:46 PM |
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Well, that's it. Cue the bears who say all the coins mined since 'mid July' are now withdrawn to the dividends address and we'll be in for a more than meager dividend of 0.000333145 BTC/share...
Even a dividend of 0.0003 BTC/share would be a positive sign for shareholders, reassuring them that AM is still committed to paying dividends. |
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ensurance982
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September 11, 2014, 06:19:40 PM |
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Well, that's it. Cue the bears who say all the coins mined since 'mid July' are now withdrawn to the dividends address and we'll be in for a more than meager dividend of 0.000333145 BTC/share...
Even a dividend of 0.0003 BTC/share would be a positive sign for shareholders, reassuring them that AM is still committed to paying dividends. Sure, but given the average estimated yield of ~33% in AM's glory times, this would justify a share price of 0.03 BTC! In an environment this risky, not a very good return. But I agree that we first need to work on building up trust again, and it would still be a good sign - if the dividends continue. |
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jjdub7
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September 11, 2014, 06:21:03 PM |
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Well, that's it. Cue the bears who say all the coins mined since 'mid July' are now withdrawn to the dividends address and we'll be in for a more than meager dividend of 0.000333145 BTC/share...
Even a dividend of 0.0003 BTC/share would be a positive sign for shareholders, reassuring them that AM is still committed to paying dividends. Well, of course friedcat gets paid as an employee, and the board members get paid by divs too, so I'm sure they're just as ready for yield season as the exchange investors are. And also, anyone notice that ~1200 shares were imported since last week? Think someone's looking to sell... |
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ensurance982
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September 11, 2014, 06:27:30 PM |
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Well, that's it. Cue the bears who say all the coins mined since 'mid July' are now withdrawn to the dividends address and we'll be in for a more than meager dividend of 0.000333145 BTC/share...
Even a dividend of 0.0003 BTC/share would be a positive sign for shareholders, reassuring them that AM is still committed to paying dividends. Well, of course friedcat gets paid as an employee, and the board members get paid by divs too, so I'm sure they're just as ready for yield season as the exchange investors are. And also, anyone notice that ~1200 shares were imported since last week? Think someone's looking to sell... Do you actually keep a record, maybe even some graph of the shares imported to Havelock? It would be interesting to correlate that to news and maybe also the price on Havelock or the Bitcoin price in general! |
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September 11, 2014, 06:30:11 PM
Last edit: September 11, 2014, 06:50:49 PM by jjdub7 |
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Well, that's it. Cue the bears who say all the coins mined since 'mid July' are now withdrawn to the dividends address and we'll be in for a more than meager dividend of 0.000333145 BTC/share...
Even a dividend of 0.0003 BTC/share would be a positive sign for shareholders, reassuring them that AM is still committed to paying dividends. Well, of course friedcat gets paid as an employee, and the board members get paid by divs too, so I'm sure they're just as ready for yield season as the exchange investors are. And also, anyone notice that ~1200 shares were imported since last week? Think someone's looking to sell... Do you actually keep a record, maybe even some graph of the shares imported to Havelock? It would be interesting to correlate that to news and maybe also the price on Havelock or the Bitcoin price in general! I don't, but I could set up a php to do it if people want. Unfortunately, we'd only get the net and not the directional flows of shares since Havelock mass-transfers manually it seems. But I could do fun graphs with the price and volume Also, it appears that the most recent (16:08 today for me - Blockchain time zoning blows) from the two non-Guild addresses were just from a change output from an earlier transaction... |
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havelock
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September 11, 2014, 06:47:57 PM |
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We could post here everytime the net in or out whenever shares are transferred from and out of the platform, if there is a demand for it.
Date/Time Type Qty
9/11/2014 12:06 transferin 500
9/11/2014 12:06 transferin 10
9/11/2014 12:06 transferin 13
9/11/2014 12:06 transferin 1
9/11/2014 12:06 transferin 2
9/11/2014 12:06 transferin 255
9/11/2014 12:06 transferin 45
9/11/2014 12:06 transferin 7
9/11/2014 12:06 transferin 64
9/9/2014 1:14 transferout -607
9/2/2014 8:35 transferout -97
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September 11, 2014, 06:49:16 PM |
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Well, that's it. Cue the bears who say all the coins mined since 'mid July' are now withdrawn to the dividends address and we'll be in for a more than meager dividend of 0.000333145 BTC/share...
Even a dividend of 0.0003 BTC/share would be a positive sign for shareholders, reassuring them that AM is still committed to paying dividends. Well, of course friedcat gets paid as an employee, and the board members get paid by divs too, so I'm sure they're just as ready for yield season as the exchange investors are. And also, anyone notice that ~1200 shares were imported since last week? Think someone's looking to sell... Do you actually keep a record, maybe even some graph of the shares imported to Havelock? It would be interesting to correlate that to news and maybe also the price on Havelock or the Bitcoin price in general! I don't, but I could set up a php to do it if people want. Unfortunately, we'd only get the net and not the directional flows of shares since Havelock mass-transfers manually it seems. But I could do fun graphs with the price and volume THis would be very interesting to see. I wonder if someone already has done this and use this information to day-trade. |
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September 11, 2014, 06:51:48 PM |
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And also, anyone notice that ~1200 shares were imported since last week? Think someone's looking to sell...
IIRC it's been 27xxx for months. No sign of + 1200... |
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rudi
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September 11, 2014, 07:37:10 PM |
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Ok this thing with the mining adress was fun.
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Chris_Sabian
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September 11, 2014, 07:50:31 PM |
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Ok this thing with the mining adress was fun.
Yep. A few coins added but then it stopped. Hopefully there will be more later. |
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