ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[Blazed]

You guys need some new signatures!  If the prices were a tad bit lower I could see a lot of people buying the "mega" tubes.

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[rudi]

There is nothing so surprising about this design.  They have simply down-clocked the chips and doubled the number per board.  They could have done this in June and had the most efficient machine on the market but the chips were worth more at the time (at least that was the thinking) so it didn't make sense.  

 Here's the math:
 240MHz/270MHz(clock ratio or prisma to tube) * 800(1 Tube hash rate) * 2 (for the doubling of the chips) =1.4 TH/s

 With some extra cooling and a little know-how, you can run at 1.6+ THs with Tube-like effifciency. (NB over-clocking the proprietary design is not recommended as it could result in a damaged product)

 While I'm not impressed by the new design, I am immpressed with AMs ability to maximize the value of their product as computational difficulty rises.

Good points, thank you.

[am-informer]

Is this a new website?  

http://www.iasicminer.com/index.php/action-channel-name-home

 

No. There's already a project for translating it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768327.msg8848001#msg8848001

To explain it better: http://www.iasicminer.com/ is the official ASICMINER homepage made by ASICMINER. It is not fully translated to english, so the above project of mine began translating parts of the page with the plan to put it all together in a nice dashboard / news site.

Finally the official ASICMINER twitter account is the one you point to yes: https://twitter.com/ASICMinerANN

[Jayjay04]

Where can we see the prisma ?

[am-informer]

Another two news articles are ready from the translation team:

Post 1:
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title CN : 烤猫官方矿机，终极降价大酬宾，800G+，仅0.79BTC
title EN : Friedcat official Miner, Big sale, 800G+, only 0.79BTC
url of transl. source: http://www.iasicminer.com/index.php/action-viewnews-itemid-56
url of transl. result: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768327.msg8940043#msg8940043

Post 2:
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title CN : Bitcointalk矿机评测第一达人doggie综合评测烤猫绿方
title EN : Bitcointalk Miner Review – Doggie Comprehensive guide on Friedcat’s AM-TUBE
url of transl. source: http://www.iasicminer.com/index.php/action-viewnews-itemid-57
url of transl. result: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768327.msg8940141#msg8940141


PS. I know some of that info is in the forum threads already for weeks and is not news at all. The goal of the project is to translate the iasicminer.com website in the best way possible for reference.

PS2. Any translation quality suggestions are welcome!


Next up for translation is the PRISMA article at http://www.iasicminer.com/index.php/action-viewnews-itemid-58 | 基于全新方案ASICMiner Prisma矿机来袭

[stompysteve]

Where can we see the prisma ?

there was a picture up earlier the link is dead now, it looks like a 1.5x tube or at least the board does

Edit: Here ya go

[whalezy]

 There is nothing so surprising about this design.  They have simply down-clocked the chips and doubled the number per board.  They could have done this in June and had the most efficient machine on the market but the chips were worth more at the time (at least that was the thinking) so it didn't make sense.  

 Here's the math:
 240MHz/270MHz(clock ratio or prisma to tube) * 800(1 Tube hash rate) * 2 (for the doubling of the chips) =1.4 TH/s

 With some extra cooling and a little know-how, you can run at 1.6+ THs with Tube-like effifciency. (NB over-clocking the proprietary design is not recommended as it could result in a damaged product)

 While I'm not impressed by the new design, I am immpressed with AMs ability to maximize the value of their product as computational difficulty rises.

XBTec(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626694.0) who employs AM's chip has already released miners at this lever of power consumption, I guess they also followed this idea.

[MichaelBliss]

 There is nothing so surprising about this design.  They have simply down-clocked the chips and doubled the number per board.  They could have done this in June and had the most efficient machine on the market but the chips were worth more at the time (at least that was the thinking) so it didn't make sense.  

 Here's the math:
 240MHz/270MHz(clock ratio or prisma to tube) * 800(1 Tube hash rate) * 2 (for the doubling of the chips) =1.4 TH/s

 With some extra cooling and a little know-how, you can run at 1.6+ THs with Tube-like effifciency. (NB over-clocking the proprietary design is not recommended as it could result in a damaged product)

 While I'm not impressed by the new design, I am immpressed with AMs ability to maximize the value of their product as computational difficulty rises.

XBTec(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626694.0) who employs AM's chip has already released miners at this lever of power consumption, I guess they also followed this idea.

Really?  I thought XBTec's Pacific got something around 1W/G?  Prisma's is 0.75 - 0.78 W/G.

[Gws24]

Not impressed, Bitmains s3+ is already 0.78 W at the wall and announced the S4 which should be even better (<== just my expectation; no real specs yet) although it should have come out last week.

[Chris_Sabian]

Not impressed, Bitmains s3+ is already 0.78 W at the wall and announced the S4 which should be even better (<== just my expectation; no real specs yet) although it should have come out last week.

But how long will it take Bitmain to ship?  For what I hear, they are having problems shipping on time and are having hardware issues.

[RoadStress]

I'm also very impressed by this. Not only that they managed to squeeze so much power efficiency, but also the size of the device.

Regarding efficiency: Do I understand correctly that 0.75 W/G puts the Prisma at the top in terms of efficiency among devices that are currently shipping?
Is there any other company currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or greater to 0.75 W/G?

Yes there are other companies that are currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or better than 0.75W/G.

Not impressed, Bitmains s3+ is already 0.78 W at the wall and announced the S4 which should be even better (<== just my expectation; no real specs yet) although it should have come out last week.

But how long will it take Bitmain to ship?  For what I hear, they are having problems shipping on time and are having hardware issues.

They already shipped 9 batches!

[rudi]

Yes there are other companies that are currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or better than 0.75W/G.

Ok. Which companies? What are the products? How much do they cost?

[Gws24]

Obviously the cost of the Prism is very good compared to say the 3s+ (< 1BTC/TH vs 1.29BTC/TH) so my remark of not being impressed is only aimed at the power consumption. That being said I do think there are a couple of other things that are a disadvantage for the prism when compared to other miners:

- the use of a separate controller and if you want to mine on certain pools you need a pi
- for a small miner only available through resellers

That may not be a big problem for the big boys where most of the revenue for asicminer is coming from but for a small miner like myself it was when I was looking to buy a miner last week. I Chose the s3+ for the above reasons over the tube besides the fact that the s3+ is more power efficient as the tube. Obviously, I would have had a harder choice this week with the price difference between the Prism and s3+ at comparable power consumption.

Just my two cents.

[rudi]

Obviously the cost of the Prism is very good compared to say the 3s+ (< 1BTC/TH vs 1.29BTC/TH) so my remark of not being impressed is only aimed at the power consumption. That being said I do think there are a two other things that are a disadvantage for the prism when compared to other miners:

- the use of a separate controller and if you want to mine on certain pools you need a pi
- for a small miner only available through resellers

That may not be a big problem for the big boys where most of the revenue for asicminer is coming from but for a small miner like myself it was when I was looking to buy a miner last week. I Chose the s3+ for the above reasons over the tube besides the fact that the s3+ is more power efficient as the tube. Obviously, I would have had a harder choice this week with the price difference between the Prism and s3+ at comparable power consumption.

Just my two cents.

Very insightful "two cents", actually. Thank you.

[RoadStress]

Yes there are other companies that are currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or better than 0.75W/G.

Ok. Which companies? What are the products? How much do they cost?

I only corrected a statement. I'm not getting paid to offer you search services. Feel free to find out by yourself.

[chairforce1]

This is fun.

[Blazed]

This is fun.

lol @ that signature...I honestly want to buy one now!

[novusordo]

Yes there are other companies that are currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or better than 0.75W/G.

Ok. Which companies? What are the products? How much do they cost?

I only corrected a statement. I'm not getting paid to offer you search services. Feel free to find out by yourself.

RoadStress is right. Also, there is a teapot somewhere between Earth and Mars orbiting the sun. I offer no proof to back up either of these statements, but feel free to find out their veracity by yourself.

[Chris_Sabian]

Yes there are other companies that are currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or better than 0.75W/G.

Ok. Which companies? What are the products? How much do they cost?

I only corrected a statement. I'm not getting paid to offer you search services. Feel free to find out by yourself.

RoadStress is right. Also, there is a teapot somewhere between Earth and Mars orbiting the sun. I offer no proof to back up either of these statements, but feel free to find out their veracity by yourself.

Those who make bold claims require bold evidence.

I guess that he is just paid to be a troll.  Must be nice in a way.
  

[jimmothy]

Yes there are other companies that are currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or better than 0.75W/G.

Ok. Which companies? What are the products? How much do they cost?

I only corrected a statement. I'm not getting paid to offer you search services. Feel free to find out by yourself.

RoadStress is right. Also, there is a teapot somewhere between Earth and Mars orbiting the sun. I offer no proof to back up either of these statements, but feel free to find out their veracity by yourself.

Those who make bold claims require bold evidence.

I guess that he is just paid to be a troll.  Must be nice in a way.

He's not paid to troll, he's paid to sell used cars (overpriced hardware) and damage SPtech's reputation in the process.

Even though he's only here to further instigate his personal crusade against AM he is not wrong in this case.

Here's what's currently available or will be soon:

Shipped but no longer available for order:

- KNC Neptune = 0.55 w/gh @ $2/gh (shipped from july-august)
- SP30 = 0.67 w/gh @ ~$0.8 (shipped last day of august)

In stock:

- None below 1w/gh.

Preorders:

- Bitmain S3+ = 0.77 w/gh @ ~$0.6/gh
- AM Prisma = 0.75 w/gh @ $0.45/gh (October)
- A1 clones = 0.7 w/gh @ $0.65/gh (October)
- Avalon4 = 0.7 w/gh @ $0.55/gh (October)
- SP20 = 0.65 w/gh* @ $0.82/gh (October 31st)
- SP35 = 0.58 w/gh* @ $0.7/gh (November 31st)

* chips not tested and probably inaccurate.
** $/gh is calculated using $400/btc.