ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[stompysteve]

This company's rating has been updated in the Manufacturer Trustworthiness thread.

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Dogie, I see that you won't be monitoring this, but I'll ask anyway in case you check back and deem it worth a response.  What would AM have to do in the coming rating cycle to improve back into the 90-95 ratings?  Where were the ratings points lost, and why does AM have a 4/10 for ethics?

4/10 for communication

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[Blazed]

This company's rating has been updated in the Manufacturer Trustworthiness thread.

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Dogie, I see that you won't be monitoring this, but I'll ask anyway in case you check back and deem it worth a response.  What would AM have to do in the coming rating cycle to improve back into the 90-95 ratings?  Where were the ratings points lost, and why does AM have a 4/10 for ethics?

Just scroll down and read the change log...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456691.msg5035170#msg5035170

[jjdub7]

This company's rating has been updated in the Manufacturer Trustworthiness thread.

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Dogie, I see that you won't be monitoring this, but I'll ask anyway in case you check back and deem it worth a response.  What would AM have to do in the coming rating cycle to improve back into the 90-95 ratings?  Where were the ratings points lost, and why does AM have a 4/10 for ethics?

Just scroll down and read the change log...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456691.msg5035170#msg5035170

Thanks.  Must've just scrolled right over it without seeing.  The ethics ratings make sense, I guess...no way to know if they're mining with customers' hardware.  No such thing as being too careful after BFL.

Dogie - However, shouldn't there be a distinction between manufacturers who mine on their own private pools (e.g. KNCminer or BFL with Eclipse MC) and those who distribute their hashrate among the public pools?  Mining in the public pools creates a (perhaps unintentional but still significant) positive externality to benefit all miners by lowering the variance of payouts and reducing their risk.  Can you refine the ethics rubric on your rating scale to reflect this distinction?  Or do you not consider it to be a differentiating factor? (I'll re/x-post to see if I can tie in a reply.)

-dub

[chairforce1]

Batch 1 shipping tomorrow!

1 Prisma shows as 8 boards, which explains the 4bit address space.

After 25 minutes running.




Lot's of padding.

[funkymunky]

Communications to "shareholders" is a 4, not to the customers of their products though.

It's a manufacturing guide not a Stock guide.....

[VeeMiner]

Ok, so devices are being delivered. How about an update?!?!

yeah, seriously, waiting is getting annoying...

[hdbuck]

Communications to "shareholders" is a 4, not to the customers of their products though.

It's a manufacturing guide not a Stock guide.....

i would tend to agree with this (even for a 1 for shareholder communication) although as i have not been an AM customer lately, i am not sure how they are performing on this side.

[foxykah]

http://prntscr.com/4yafk3

http://prntscr.com/4yafpm

Could these be competition?

(from this site: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison )

[webbrowser]

http://prntscr.com/4yafk3

http://prntscr.com/4yafpm

Could these be competition?

(from this site: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison )

I don't see why they would be competition.

Still waiting on SP20 to appear, and that's supposed to be due in Oct.  If you managed to take delivery of the SP35 in 30 days, you'd still lose more than if you grabbed the Prisma today.

[AMuppInTime]

It doesn't really look like anything is being delivered at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791827.320

[ujka]

It doesn't really look like anything is being delivered at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791827.320

Follow this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=795477.msg9271176#msg9271176
and this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=795609.msg9267423#msg9267423

[glendall]

Share price for AM is always so mysterious to me. With  a good product available with Prismas, why is there so much dumping going on?  Been steady decline last few days, looks like .1-.11 is the new normal.
As for the lack of communication, a mere 5 mins a week more spent on twitter updates would translate into a big confidence boost.  :

I think gen 4 will end up like gen 3 and arrive 8 months later than I expect but who knows, we just have guesses.

[sngwinner]

Share price for AM is always so mysterious to me. With  a good product available with Prismas, why is there so much dumping going on?  Been steady decline last few days, looks like .1-.11 is the new normal.
As for the lack of communication, a mere 5 mins a week more spent on twitter updates would translate into a big confidence boost.  :

I think gen 4 will end up like gen 3 and arrive 8 months later than I expect but who knows, we just have guesses.

The reason the share price is low is because there is no information on the company. No one knows if there will be dividends, if we are actually self mining with gen 3, if gen 4 tape out is imminent or several months out. We have no idea what our actual expenses are, what partners were working with, or what sort of revenue we have. A simple update from fried car and a financial statement could go a long way.

The concern is why isn't he doing that? Is gen 4 around the corner and he wants to wait for release before announcing? Does he want to wait on announcing gen 4 to maximize prisms sales? Is he trying to bide time and embezzle as much coin as possible before announcing the failure of AM? No one knows!!! Until fried car announces something anything could be possible.

Full disclosure I'm long AM and just fed up with the lack of communication. That's been my only comments in this thread lately and I don't expect Friedcat to change at all. I'm frustrated and hopeful but a growing part of me expects this company to fold up and run.

[glendall]

''''''' I hear that, all good points.  I know what you are saying.... I could both imagine, 6 months from now, AM regaining a big chunk of the mining world, or just as likely, folding. Its a complete toss up.

Sure FC likes to keep his cards close to his chest, but this just don't work well at being a publicly traded company at the same time. I realized it just sort of developed into one w/o his intention to do so (beyond the original shareholders), but still.

[hdbuck]

Im fed up with the lack of info too.
Yet im more and more convinced thats perfectly normal.
FC made a conf in august. Showed himself to the world and announced some sort of checkmate plan.. and then disapeared. Along with the boardmembers...

And this is where one should upload some submarine pics.

[glendall]

At least with that Russian sub by Sweden this last week there was some evidence it was around 

[hdbuck]

At least with that Russian sub by Sweden this last week there was some evidence it was around 

Hehe i was waiting for that story too

[Chris_Sabian]

Im fed up with the lack of info too.
Yet im more and more convinced thats perfectly normal.
FC made a conf in august. Showed himself to the world and announced some sort of checkmate plan.. and then disapeared. Along with the boardmembers...

And this is where one should upload some submarine pics.

The lack of information may due to increased competition and preventing competitors from knowing about key events.  In 'real world' companies, the CEO and board of directors give quarter reports, no updates on everything that is happening to the company on a daily basis.

[explorer]

Im fed up with the lack of info too.
Yet im more and more convinced thats perfectly normal.
FC made a conf in august. Showed himself to the world and announced some sort of checkmate plan.. and then disapeared. Along with the boardmembers...

And this is where one should upload some submarine pics.

Lol I suppose this should be more on the speculation thread, but it has been months since any info...  that info was very promising though.  BE 300 will take us to the moon in the exa hash age. Or to the seafloor.  I am counting on moon, as I don't care for deep water

[sngwinner]

Im fed up with the lack of info too.
Yet im more and more convinced thats perfectly normal.
FC made a conf in august. Showed himself to the world and announced some sort of checkmate plan.. and then disapeared. Along with the boardmembers...

And this is where one should upload some submarine pics.

The lack of information may due to increased competition and preventing competitors from knowing about key events.  In 'real world' companies, the CEO and board of directors give quarter reports, no updates on everything that is happening to the company on a daily basis.

They also provide detailed financials and outline a business strategy and plan. It would be nice to know what the financial status of the company is. Also they were supposed to be aggressive with dividends. When you establish that and then don't pay any dividends it deserves some explaining.