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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3918302 times)
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October 29, 2014, 11:20:50 PM
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Over 500 shares just dumped on Havelock! Holy cow, who do you think did that? Insider information or just an early adopter cashing out some of his stash? Maybe someone is willing to buy some AMHash??? Smiley

just some people leaving the boat.
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October 30, 2014, 01:06:21 AM
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Actually I suspect AM may be able to argue that since there is no 'ownership' of the company conferred by owning AM shares, that they did not offer securities. This is obviously muddied by the use of the words IPO, share, securities etc.

Clearly you have not read the legal definition of a security, nor have you been around for very long or you would have known better. There is absolutely zero doubt AM shares are legally securities subject to SEC regulation in so far they are offered to US investors.

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October 30, 2014, 01:54:07 AM
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<0.1 BTC a share.

This should get interesting.

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October 30, 2014, 02:28:55 AM
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Surprising it took this long, it should have dumped hard on fc's latest announcement, but you all have stockholm syndrome.
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October 30, 2014, 02:50:45 AM
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Surprising it took this long, it should have dumped hard on fc's latest announcement, but you all have stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome??  You're posting in the wrong thread man!   KNCminer is the Swedish company.
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October 30, 2014, 05:45:04 AM
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Surprising it took this long, it should have dumped hard on fc's latest announcement, but you all have stockholm syndrome.

Mehh, although this news is disappointing, it isn't unexpected.  It has very much been priced in already.  I don't think anybody was expecting any Divs from Gen3 at this point.  Mining is a tough game with falling btc prices.  Hopefully the price of BTC stabilizes and rises for Gen4 so people start buying equipment again.
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October 30, 2014, 07:58:44 AM
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Over 500 shares just dumped on Havelock! Holy cow, who do you think did that? Insider information or just an early adopter cashing out some of his stash? Maybe someone is willing to buy some AMHash??? Smiley

just some people leaving the boat.

At this point its more along the lines of
Well I'm not getting any return on this asset for X months
May as well just come back later

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October 30, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
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there are now    30707 shares on havelock. I dont keep track but wasnt this 24000 just few weeks ago ?
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October 30, 2014, 01:02:49 PM
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there are now    30707 shares on havelock. I dont keep track but wasnt this 24000 just few weeks ago ?

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October 30, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
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there are now    30707 shares on havelock. I dont keep track but wasnt this 24000 just few weeks ago ?
That was in the first quarter, time flies. They slowly rised beginning from May if I remember correctly.
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October 31, 2014, 01:35:46 AM
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<0.1 BTC a share.

This should get interesting.

It should now were in a state of limbo
How low can it go I guess is the short to midterm question
Seeing 0.08

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October 31, 2014, 03:47:50 AM
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<0.1 BTC a share.

This should get interesting.

It should now were in a state of limbo
How low can it go I guess is the short to midterm question
Seeing 0.08

What is AM worth?  I mean, what is the company worth... how many PH of chips did they just order, what is their mine worth, what is their IP worth? etc.  Would it be out of the question to assume $20 million USD?

If so, the share prices are currently trading way below current 'value'.  20 million USD = around .147 btc / share.

I've been in this game for a while and I honestly can't remember the last time a bitcoin company was undervalued.
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<0.1 BTC a share.

This should get interesting.

It should now were in a state of limbo
How low can it go I guess is the short to midterm question
Seeing 0.08

What is AM worth?  I mean, what is the company worth... how many PH of chips did they just order, what is their mine worth, what is their IP worth? etc.  Would it be out of the question to assume $20 million USD?

If so, the share prices are currently trading way below current 'value'.  20 million USD = around .147 btc / share.

I've been in this game for a while and I honestly can't remember the last time a bitcoin company was undervalued.

I compare AM to Lentuo International, a small-cap auto reseller in and around Beijing that's traded on the NYSE.  Both have a specific sector and product that they offer, and both deal heavily with exports and foreign currency markets.  ASICMINER also directly produces the currency it transacts with for the foundation of its business.

https://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=LAS+Interactive#%7B%22range%22%3A%225y%22%2C%22scale%22%3A%22linear%22%7D

Its worth ~$50 million and has yet to ever pay dividends.  ASICMINER is worth ~$11 million at this time.  KnC et al have just received multiple millions in venture capital, yes?

I would also say that LAS and AM are both undervalued.  I own 1100 shares out of Lentuo's 35.6 million outstanding (compare to ASICminer's 400k shares outstanding).  Most of these are in my Roth IRA.  I believe both companies are going to be profitable in the long term, and are relatively cheap right now (especially AM with a low BTC price).
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October 31, 2014, 07:32:44 AM
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First divs from AMHash https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg9390799#msg9390799
927 satoshi.

Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors.
Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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October 31, 2014, 08:04:32 AM
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What is AM worth?  I mean, what is the company worth... how many PH of chips did they just order, what is their mine worth, what is their IP worth? etc.  Would it be out of the question to assume $20 million USD?

How much would you value a bitcoin mining asic company that already has a pile of pretty decent, working 28nm chips? Thats had them for over 6 months?
A company like, say, HashFast?

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I've been in this game for a while and I honestly can't remember the last time a bitcoin company was undervalued.

You forgot about PETA already? To be fair, if I were you, Id try to forget that too
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October 31, 2014, 08:52:31 AM
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IMMERSION COOLING

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October 31, 2014, 10:20:15 AM
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IMMERSION COOLING



No...these are air conditioning chillers on the roof of a building somewhere. Where exactly would the hashing units go when the radiators are angled like that? They almost meet in a perfect v at the bottom.

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October 31, 2014, 10:31:44 AM
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No...these are air conditioning chillers on the roof of a building somewhere. Where exactly would the hashing units go when the radiators are angled like that? They almost meet in a perfect v at the bottom.
Those are rooftop radiators in Hong Kong for a mining operation on lower a lower floor you twit.

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October 31, 2014, 10:33:38 AM
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Well AM tagged it as immersion cooling on their instagram profile
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October 31, 2014, 10:36:35 AM
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With immersion cooling, you still need to cool the coolant.
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