ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[Fordee]

No one knows who is making what. Unless I missed something AM has not clearly said what part of the profit is for them or RM. It is all speculation until they actually give you some info. I would hope that with selling so much AMHash they are cash positive by now or something is really off.

Not to mention mining since mid July... and the 'not needing to worry about selling BTC for some time' statement.  There's gotta be some cash AND BTC on the books somewhere.

My guess is that because Friedcat is a forward thinker, he's not waiting for the tooth fairy to pay for a Gen4 mask...  That's done, and he's been saving his pennies for a massive deployment to do some serious catch-up.

After reading so many different thoughts on AM's valuation, I can't help but read Friedcat's actions as being long term, and a bit stealthy...   If I had to compare AM as a company in the bitcoin space, I would still place it closer to the long term company builders that want Bitcoin to succeed, like Bitpay, than with the venture-capital backed rush to market/crash and burn entities that many have seen.

Money in the bank.. Bitcoin in the wallet...  Gen 4 ready to roll..   Partners in both board design, mining, and building relationships with fabs...   Not a dumb guy..

I'm not waiting for any kind of short-term div gains..those days are gone...   I'm watching somebody building a rock solid foundation..      

For those of you who may not have been around in the early 90s of the internet (1993+) when millions where being thrown around to grab a piece of the landscape..
Altavista...Excite....Webcrawler...  http://www.wordstream.com/articles/internet-search-engines-history
 
Now we basically have Google, Yahoo and Bing... What do you use?    Have you checked their stock value lately?  How about the Market Cap of Google?
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=google%20stock%20value

Buying into something in the beginning is a crapshoot.. and if it fails, it fails honestly with lots of hard work behind it, unlike the scams that have come and gone like Neo&Bee.
 
Gen 4 might be AM's last chance for the brass ring, but for I'm willing to take this bet... better chances than a lottery ticket in my eyes.

[NotLambchop]

No one knows who is making what. Unless I missed something AM has not clearly said what part of the profit is for them or RM. It is all speculation until they actually give you some info. I would hope that with selling so much AMHash they are cash positive by now or something is really off.

Not to mention mining since mid July... and the 'not needing to worry about selling BTC for some time' statement.  There's gotta be some cash AND BTC on the books somewhere.

My guess is that because Friedcat is a forward thinker, he's not waiting for the tooth fairy to pay for a Gen4 mask ... I can't help but read Friedcat's actions as being long term, and a bit stealthy...

More speculation?  Amazing.  To be fair tho, I've seen more plausible arguments defending the Tooth Fairy.

[Fordee]

No one knows who is making what. Unless I missed something AM has not clearly said what part of the profit is for them or RM. It is all speculation until they actually give you some info. I would hope that with selling so much AMHash they are cash positive by now or something is really off.

Not to mention mining since mid July... and the 'not needing to worry about selling BTC for some time' statement.  There's gotta be some cash AND BTC on the books somewhere.

My guess is that because Friedcat is a forward thinker, he's not waiting for the tooth fairy to pay for a Gen4 mask ... I can't help but read Friedcat's actions as being long term, and a bit stealthy...

More speculation?  Amazing.  To be fair tho, I've seen more plausible arguments defending the Tooth Fairy.

Hey Look... I went trolling, and caught one!
  
 -- Nah NotLambchop...the thread was getting pretty boring over christmas... I thought a little positive enthusiasm may help...  

     Come to think of it, there hasn't been a big pump/dump around recently.. Havelock is basically stagnant other than bots...    Any predictions for the new year?

[NotLambchop]

Not really, I'd say more of the same.  If Havelock is to be trusted, and was losing money as its whatever_you_call_those_things financial statements suggest, it's improbable that, with declining volume, this would change.
How long can Havelock afford to operate in the red?  What will be the end game?

Amateur investment enthusiasts The savvy financiers currently losing money trading on Havelock are unlikely to call Havelock's mom & tell take any legal action against a Somalian Panamanian shell co.  Even these degenerate gamblers titans of Bitcoin commerce realize the futility of tilting at windmills.

So yeah, more of the same, slowly fading into obscurity just like the Securities section of this forum.

This post has been redacted and edited for compliance with Panamanian libel laws.

[chriswilmer]

Hey guys. I was waiting for a transfer to Havelock to sell some shares before Dec 31st... it's been a few weeks and no transfer has happened yet.

If you are interested in 100ish (negotiable) shares at around 0.12 btc per share please PM me.

[jdany]

You have additional direct shares that you're selling?
Or, are you looking to line up a buyer on HL after they transfer?

[chriswilmer]

You have additional direct shares that you're selling?
Or, are you looking to line up a buyer on HL after they transfer?

Right now I have 500+ direct shares and 0 shares on Havelock. I'd like to sell some shares to write off some losses and I don't want to wait for the transfer to Havelock to go through.

[jdany]

I'll take 50 @ 0.12

[chriswilmer]

I'll take 50 @ 0.12

Thanks, noted.

[RoadStress]

No one knows who is making what. Unless I missed something AM has not clearly said what part of the profit is for them or RM. It is all speculation until they actually give you some info. I would hope that with selling so much AMHash they are cash positive by now or something is really off.

That is not right. Shareholders should always know what the CEO and the company is doing. You people don't even know how the 24 chip board is performing...because friedcat!

[bones]

They are workng to design miners, more awesome, than any before previously built.
Give them some time.

[helloge]

I'll take 50 @ 0.12

cheap price to get some AM,
glad to see that still someone buying.

[tsm13]

i saw over on the amhash thread hashie.co got hacked. Looks like amhash have figured a way to identify hashie.co owners and their hash rates, to transfer to  havelock/amhash.

[Chris_Sabian]

i saw over on the amhash thread hashie.co got hacked. Looks like amhash have figured a way to identify hashie.co owners and their hash rates, to transfer to  havelock/amhash.

Hacked or just a scam...

Either way, AMHash is posting quite a bit over on the hashie thread and they appear to be doing a good job with reassuring AMHash owners that things will work out for them.

[chriswilmer]

Hey guys. I was waiting for a transfer to Havelock to sell some shares before Dec 31st... it's been a few weeks and no transfer has happened yet.

If you are interested in 100ish (negotiable) shares at around 0.12 btc per share please PM me.

This offer is now over! Thanks for your interest!

[webbrowser]

Hey guys. I was waiting for a transfer to Havelock to sell some shares before Dec 31st... it's been a few weeks and no transfer has happened yet.

If you are interested in 100ish (negotiable) shares at around 0.12 btc per share please PM me.

This offer is now over! Thanks for your interest!

Nice to see significant buying interest in AM shares.

[dmcdad]

Friedcat and/or board members: Given the implosion/hack/scam of hashie, can you verify that you are getting periodic AM ownership database dumps from Havelock as well (both for AM shares and AMHash), so there is a chance for reconciling share ownership should something happen with Havelock? Thanks.

[bkminer]

As a share holder of ASICMiner I believed that hashie.co was legit because ASICMiner confirmed they rented hash rate.

Now of course I'm stuck, and the amhash.com website won't allow to create an account to transfer so I basically just lost a bit of coin.

[amhash]

As a share holder of ASICMiner I believed that hashie.co was legit because ASICMiner confirmed they rented hash rate.

Now of course I'm stuck, and the amhash.com website won't allow to create an account to transfer so I basically just lost a bit of coin.

Can you provide some details,like error message?It should be easy to create an account with your email.

[bkminer]

As a share holder of ASICMiner I believed that hashie.co was legit because ASICMiner confirmed they rented hash rate.

Now of course I'm stuck, and the amhash.com website won't allow to create an account to transfer so I basically just lost a bit of coin.

Can you provide some details,like error message?It should be easy to create an account with your email.

I have been able to create an account today and I have sent you a personal message with a couple of questions.... thank you

I've always believed in ASICMiner and they've never gone wrong.