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1001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] SCRYPT HARD FORK BLOCK ON 256000 on: August 06, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
this is the dumbest post EVER.
if dude wants to use scrypt go mine or buy some litecoins etc...... or is that too expensive for OP and he wants to make some $$ the easy way.
lame not thought out thread

there are more than enough "scrypt coins" for you guys to enjoy already.
dumb is dumb
1002  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: August Bitfury Pre-order folks: any updates? on: August 06, 2013, 07:42:09 AM
In Bitcoin land August delivery date means end of August  Grin (if we're lucky).


that actually means november in bitcoinland
1003  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why won't BTC drop in Value when Mainstream? on: August 06, 2013, 03:27:45 AM
wow, such a badly thought out argument!
1004  Economy / Speculation / Re: xpost from Press: Joe Lewis plans to invest $200M into Avalon on: August 05, 2013, 07:28:01 AM
one word: overpaid
1005  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: everyone get ready to sue Avalon! ($200 million possibly incoming) / rumors on: August 05, 2013, 02:49:17 AM
Guys WSJ is running with it...

from the speculation thread, published by wall street journal online, maybe make you guys feel better?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323997004578644491403250124.html
not sure how to get full article, i just copied and pasted from the observer thread in speculation

Joe Lewis, a billionaire foreign-exchange trader who teamed up with hedge-fund manager George Soros in 1992 to bet against the Bank of England, is the latest high-profile financier to throw his weight behind the virtual currency called bitcoin.

Mr. Lewis leads the Phoenix Fund, a Zurich-based private-equity fund that on Tuesday plans to invest $200 million in Avalon, a company that makes computer servers aimed at creating bitcoins, according to people familiar with the situation.

Bitcoin is a virtual currency that exists online and isn't backed by any government or central bank. Bitcoins were invented in 2008 by a computer programmer who goes by the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, who describes it as a peer-to-peer electronic cash system.

Joe Lewis's Phoenix Fund is investing in a bitcoin company.

The Phoenix Fund's investment in Avalon reflects the growing popularity of virtual currencies, which are also coming under scrutiny from regulators. Other bitcoin enthusiasts include Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss, who are best known for their role in the creation of Facebook Inc. FB +1.50% They have proposed an exchange-traded fund that is tied to bitcoins.

Bitcoins are created through a process called mining, in which computers solve complex mathematical algorithms to earn the bitcoins. The total number of bitcoins that can be mined is limited to 21 million. There are now about 11.5 million bitcoins in circulation, according to Blockchain, a website that monitors bitcoin transactions.

The Phoenix deal will also involve Taiwanese microchip maker Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., 2330.TW +0.50% which is set to supply the state-of-the-art microchips that will power the hardware.

The Phoenix Fund was set up this year to invest in bitcoin mining-hardware companies. It looked at several of Avalon's rivals in the sector, including Butterfly Labs and KnCMiner but decided against investing, according to a person familiar with the private-equity firm's strategy.

Investors in the Phoenix Fund, which includes a small number of individuals who made their fortunes in currency trading, believe that the currency will become more stable and popular if more parties are involved in the mining process, this person said.

Mr. Lewis moved into currency trading in the 1980s and 1990s. In September 1992, Mr. Lewis teamed up with Mr. Soros to bet on sterling crashing out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism, an event that was later named "Black Wednesday." Mr. Lewis didn't respond to a request for comment.

Mr. Lewis had big losses investing in U.S. brokerage firm Bear Stearns Cos, in which he began amassing a stake during 2007, The Wall Street Journal reported at the time.

Mr. Lewis is the main investor in an unlisted company called Tavistock Group, which has investments in more than 200 companies across the globe.

Tavistock Group includes ENIC Group, which has a Bahamas-registered subsidiary called ENIC International Ltd., through which Mr. Lewis owns 85% of the shares in U.K. soccer club Tottenham Hotspur.

The Phoenix Fund is independent of Tavistock.

The bitcoin deal was put together by Andrew Laurus, a former government-bonds salesman at Lehman Brothers who is also an investor in the fund. Avalon was set up by Yifu Guo, a pioneer in the bitcoin-mining industry. He was part of the team that developed the first ASIC bitcoin mining hardware. ASIC stands for application-specific integrated circuit, a type of custom-designed microchip. Mr. Guo couldn't be reached for comment.

Separately, Coinflash, a company that planned to set up kiosks for bitcoin enthusiasts to buy the virtual currency, is shutting down before it even opened its doors. "Due to an unforeseen change in our personal circumstances, we've made the difficult decision to suspend Coinflash's services indefinitely," the San Diego-based company said in an email statement.

Coinflash was established earlier this year and had planned to open the bitcoin kiosks in California and New York this summer.

As part of the deal, Avalon will gain access to TSMC microchips based on 20-nanometer processes, which are much faster than other chips. TSMC recently won a contract to supply chips to Apple. The increased processing power should give Avalon an edge in solving the algorithms that control the supply of bitcoins.

prob started the drop in AM - regardless of how it works out it's got a lot of VC's attention! they are getting hungry
1006  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS 2x avalon batch 2 on: August 05, 2013, 01:45:28 AM
it's ok. it's the new thing. sell at more than bought while everyone knows it will never make ROI
1007  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: everyone get ready to sue Avalon! ($200 million possibly incoming) / rumors on: August 04, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
3rd results on google.

wow, google does rock in their search algorithm ability
1008  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 04, 2013, 08:45:30 PM
anyone know what FAB AM uses? TSMC? and how will the latest avalon rumors, if true, affect AM going forward?

have they begun development on smaller chips yet?
1009  Bitcoin / Hardware / everyone get ready to sue Avalon! on: August 04, 2013, 08:41:05 PM
there are rumors about Avalon getting funding to the tune of 200 million USD
maybe this is real maybe it's all rumors
maybe their hardware will no longer suck too much and they'll deliver ON TIME
regardless - just a heads up for those who think they have a legal case against them.

this could also be the start of the "new avalon" thread. perhaps, they'll get their shit together going into the future now that they'll be a "real company"

source: http://bitcoinexaminer.org/avalon-might-be-getting-a-200-million-investment-and-20nm-technology-to-become-the-leader-of-the-mining-market/

edit-
obviously this sounds a bit strange (perhaps they added a 0 and it should be 20 million)
Avalon doesn't need 200 million and prob won't know what to do with it (unless it's like a shareswap thing or something)
they prob would get more roi buying up bitcoins slowly for that amount of money
also, for that amount of money they can hire TOP talent pretty much from anywhere so why would they need avalon?
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the author of the article is either trolling for views or there's something crazy happening
1010  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC - v.1 @130nm/300Mhz -16 cores chip - European / Chinese Team on: August 03, 2013, 10:43:35 PM
labcoin,

after 65 design will you begin work on 28nm? (q1/q2 2014?)
1011  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Cointerra Mining ASIC coming soon on: August 03, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
logo is soso- but, noone should care about it
1012  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 03, 2013, 07:10:38 PM
you guys holding or what?

of course, these are Asians we are dealing with, Asian speed and commitment you know Wink

you mean how they like to shut down all factories in china for a month speed? (new year)
people on here love stereotyping
1013  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 02, 2013, 07:14:19 PM
would be a HOT buy if they let people in an ALL btcsea enterprise - including the forum, exchange ETC

or are they doing that?

No, it's just the profit of the mining business. i.e. you do't even get to vote.

NOT hot

unless ROI within a year this becomes risky
1014  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 02, 2013, 06:46:27 PM
the 3 million shares should either not be tradeable on BTCT until a certain amount of time
OR the shares should be marked/colored in a way so that people know that they are buying the team's shares. this would also indicate for everyone to panic - heh
1015  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 02, 2013, 06:41:56 PM
would be a HOT buy if they let people in an ALL btcsea enterprise - including the forum, exchange ETC

or are they doing that?
1016  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 02, 2013, 05:24:58 PM
I highly doubt Kok even has any relative clue of the actual markets he was probably assuming you meant the BTC world also to be on topic,

Good thing we are not investing in Swede's company considering he is only the messenger

i was just making a point when people are saying Chinese Companies HAVE to be a good investment.
usually when a real IPO occurs in China is too late to get good returns
(unless you are a psychic)
maybe in btc world  -
1017  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 02, 2013, 05:20:26 PM
FYI, chinese companies have averaged negative returns for foreign investors over the last 20+ years
yes, this means exactly that. on average foreign investors have lost money investing into chinese companies (after ipos)

as to who is better labcoin or btcgarden - who KNOWS-  noone at the moment. btc garden values itself 6x more than labcoin and the question is are the chances of them delivering and being a better company 6x higher?

Burnside - you should get CONFIRMATIONS from foundries saying that they have contracts or are manufacturing for said companies to confirm at least some legitimacy from mining companies

back to the regular programing

I highly doubt that's true (chinese companies have negative returns for investors), any source to support your claim?

my bad- not negative - i remembered wrong
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-14/china-wealth-eluding-foreigners-as-equities-earn-1-for-20-years.html
1% a year returns (lower than inflation most years) so i guess could be considered negative
1018  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 02, 2013, 04:59:48 PM
FYI, chinese companies have averaged negative returns for foreign investors over the last 20+ years
yes, this means exactly that. on average foreign investors have lost money investing into chinese companies (after ipos)

as to who is better labcoin or btcgarden - who KNOWS-  noone at the moment. btc garden values itself 6x more than labcoin and the question is are the chances of them delivering and being a better company 6x higher?

Burnside - you should get CONFIRMATIONS from foundries saying that they have contracts or are manufacturing for said companies to confirm at least some legitimacy from mining companies

back to the regular programing
1019  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 02, 2013, 06:40:36 AM
Here's a question: Do you guys have a target in mind of what % of the network hashrate you'd like to achieve?  ASICMiner targets 20%, BTCGarden plans on getting 35% (doubtful, IMO)

these companies are going to put btcguild and others out of biz
1020  Economy / Speculation / Re: 110 is the new 135 on: August 02, 2013, 01:31:08 AM
like i said before- the bears are hibernating now  till next year

edit: except EM - he's not an actual bear and he has nothing else to do
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