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1041  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: January 07, 2019, 02:54:55 PM
Of course I can't.

There is nothing that can be answered to you, you can't be proven wrong.

Using ridiculous comparison is a tool to try to make you think a little bit but it doesn't seem it has worked.


You are asking for empirical data linking temperature rise, CO2 levels and human activity.
This doesn't exist, cannot exist, will never exist. That's all.


But if like TECSHARE you believe that's how science work, then you just need to go back to school. This is not how science work, this has never been and will never be.
1042  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: January 07, 2019, 02:51:47 PM
Good questions.

Evolution is still a theory for how different species arise, there is no evidence for that, and I find this is really important. We still need to be able to observe speciation in action in a laboratory or research facility to provide evidence for that. Personally I would like to see it too as I view this as being the ultimate proof for macro-evolution. Yes I know the process is slow and takes millions of years but this is why the mechanism is not testable nor falsifiable.

You mean how new species appear?

Well that's quite easy and has been largely proved...

Best example would be the chicken, easy and you know what it is today.

Chicken comes directly from reptiles just like all the other birds we know. How do we know that? Here is how we proceed:

-First we inventorize all the different species we can find
-Then we date them to be able to make a chronological timeline of the species
-Afterthat we try to regroup the species having common physical caracteristics
-Ultimately when we suspect there is a lineage between two or more species we check their DNA to see if one has indeed the genetic legacy of the other

Here is a more complete analysis of the reptile timeline for example and how we see that one is the descendant of the other: http://www.snakegenomics.org/CastoeLab/Publications_files/Shaney_etal.BookChapter.pdf

If that's not evolution... Then how did the chicken appear? It didn't exist 40 millions year ago so how did it appear all of a sudden if that's not evolution?
1043  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: January 07, 2019, 02:24:35 PM
Now if you would please present the empirical data showing that global warming is a result of anthropogenic climate change, as a direct result of human C02 output. Not theories. Not opinions. Not simulations. Not projections. Empirical data.

Oh my god I forgot that xD

TECSHARE you're really a funny guy!

Well the bad side is that you actually have the right to vote... That's one of the problems of democracy, even people without the slightest insight of how science or logic work can vote.

Still it's funny! So i guess you gonna come back all grumpy asking for some "SOLID EMPIRICAL DATA" right?
1044  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: January 07, 2019, 02:16:50 PM
You are a fucking moron, this has already been repeatedly addressed in this thread, and this is not how science works.

Oh sorryyyyyyyy I didn't know science didn't work as a cooperative peer to peer consensus. Oh silly me who forgot that science is only 100% hard proofs or nothing!

I can be dumb sometimes right?

I mean we obviously only have a binary system in science: proved and not proved.

That's how things work  Cheesy

EDIT: I might be a fucking moron but at least I'm not in the same bag as Flat Earthers or Evolution denyers. Funny you're the one claiming to be a "logical and scientific" fellas. I guess the 94% of scientists of the planet are as dumb as me?
1045  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: January 07, 2019, 02:14:42 PM
Yes but I think the key issue is in the claim that the mechanisms of evolution are via random, unintelligent forces rather than the mastermind of an intelligent designer. Astargath and I discussed about the central issue of abiogenesis earlier, and I repeat the following.

I don't want to minimize your discussions or arguments but it's extremely pointless.

Facts are:
-Evolution is no longer a theory but a proven fact of how species evolve
-Evolution occures mainly by small changes of DNA that are, or not, selected in the specie

Now that those small changes are random or the will of a superior being... Is not a rational debate. Because you can't prove neither of the two possibilities.

It can be God. It can be random. No one will ever prove one or the other. How could it be possible?

Though I have a question: if evolution is God's will, why is that that some changes are useless and are given up? Not all genes are passed up to the next generation. If Evolution was conducted by the hand of God, why would he put imperfect genes that are doomed to be given up during evolution process?
1046  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: January 07, 2019, 01:51:21 PM
Lennox's explanation shows how evolution and God are perfectly compatible. Here's his quote.

"The success of science sometimes leads people to think that because we can understand the mechanisms of the universe, then we can safely conclude that there was no God who designed and created the universe in the first place. This reasoning commits a logical error in that it confuses mechanism and agency.

Consider a Ford motor car. It is conceivable that someone who was seeing one for the first time and who knew no science might imagine that there is a god (Mr. Ford) inside the engine, making it go. Of course, if he were subsequently to study engineering and take apart the engine, he would discover that there is no Mr. Ford inside it. He would also see that he did not need to introduce Mr. Ford as an explanation for its working; his grasp of the impersonal principles of internal combustion would be enough to do that. However, if he then decided that his understanding of the principles of how the engine worked made it impossible to believe in the existence of a Mr. Ford who designed the engine in the first place, this would be patently false. Had there never been a Mr. Ford to design the mechanisms, none would exist for him to understand. It is equally mistaken to suppose that our scientific understanding of the impersonal principles according to which the universe works makes it either unnecessary or impossible to believe in the existence of a personal Creator who designed, made, and upholds it."

I don't know a single scientist that have ever said that we know there is no God.

You can't prove that there is no God.
It doesn't make sense, could you prove there are no dragons? No unicorns?

But it's not because there is no proof of God that it means there is a God. You're free to believe God created the world this way and the evolution. Sure. Why not?

Still, evolution is real and has been largely proven. That evolution exists because of God is out of the subject because no one will ever prove that it's true or false.
1047  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: January 07, 2019, 01:15:28 PM
Even if the majority of scientists believed evolution, so what?

So, after you literaly said "not a majority of scientists believe in evolution" you admit you're wrong at least?


I think the key phrase is "Even if"

I'm trying to go step by step...
First he says "not a majority of scientists believe in evolution" so I want to at the very least make him admit that he was wrong (probably just lying) and that the very vast majority do agree on the evolution theory.

Then we'll try to explain him why 97% of the scientists of the world are very unlikely to be wrong...
1048  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: January 07, 2019, 11:44:22 AM
By the way, there is something I don't understand.

If you believe evolution is a hoax, does that mean humans have always existed? Or where do we come from?
1049  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: January 07, 2019, 11:43:14 AM
Even if the majority of scientists believed evolution, so what?

So, after you literaly said "not a majority of scientists believe in evolution" you admit you're wrong at least?
1050  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 BC.Game 🎲 🂡🂫🎰🔥 Provably Fair (Found Unfair, Rewarding 100 ETH)💰💰 on: January 07, 2019, 10:52:31 AM
Just to add some nuance: it's not so much their method is unfair, it's just that it's not "provably fair". I actually doubt very much they've picked a bias hash chain, but we really have no way of knowing (hence not provably fair).

Yeah and... Honestly I find it dubious how they're pushing you on the invest part.

Lots of casino have the option to invest of course. But here there is more advertisement for the investment than for the games itself.

I don't believe it's safe to invest somewhere without any reputation, asking you so much about your money.
Don't play dumb.
1051  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: January 07, 2019, 10:08:12 AM
Just to remind you you're a bit alone here.
http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-5-evolution-climate-change-and-other-issues/

94% of scientists agree that global warming is real and 84% that it's human based.

How does it feel to be in the same bag as people claiming Earth is flat or evolution is a lie?
1052  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: January 07, 2019, 10:01:41 AM

Not all scientists, or even a majority of them, believe evolution. But for those who believe in evolution, too bad for them. However, there are probably way more who are protecting their job by admitting to evolution rather than what they really believe.

Cool

Please,

http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-5-evolution-climate-change-and-other-issues/

97% of scientists fully support evolution theory.

There is NO DEBATE on evolution, the only debate there is is here, because of people like you who are not much more clever than flat earthers.
1053  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Soft Language: Tautological Replacements on: January 07, 2019, 09:55:23 AM
By removing negativity you remove targets.

I wouldn't be literate enough in English to make solid list of new terms that have replaced the old ones, but I have no doubt that the language is undergoing the same transformation as French and Spanish are right now.

Funny thing is that right wing people love to call it a "leftist strategy". I think anyone really political is targeted by this, left and right equally.
People currently in power are removing negative words to avoid conflicts and discussion. If there is nothing negative to adress then there is nothing to change.

In French for example you no longer say "a redundancy plan" you say "a job rescue plan". How can you be against that? Same way you no longer say "migrants" you say "refugees" while 20 years ago being a refugee was short for political refugee which was a very different title very difficult to have and... Quite honorable in fact. Same way, how can you be against taking refugees?

They took the negative words so we can no longer disagree. I wouldn't say it's about power, it's even more cunning and vicious. It's about no longer being able to think because you can no longer name the problems. That's causing much more damages that one could think...

I'm all for free speach and free language. Talk about the inferior sub-race leeches invading us, and I'll talk about the alienation of bourgeoisie domination. Getting rid of the words won't solve anything.
1054  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Brilliand Critique of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & Socialism In General on: January 07, 2019, 09:34:34 AM
...the US is like a never-ending reality TV show for the rest of the world...

Problem is that this TV show is actively destroying and killing whatever it wants whenever it wants.

No one would care so much about US if US wasn't "taking care" of the world so much.

Please, recall your soldiers, close your borders, stop spreading both your culture and your economy by force and I promise you we'll stop bothering you so much.

If that meant you would stay inside, I'm pretty sure most Western countries and people would love to pay for the Wall. For the rest of the world, the problems aren't the illegals, the Russians or the Chinese. The problem is the USA.

https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/
(Map is set here as an illustration, not as a reliable data set.)

Even if your government is simply keeping ours as pet dogs, it doesn't change the fact that the people are seeing US as the greatest threat to the world.
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / WTS CRGO tokens at 20% of the price on: January 05, 2019, 03:17:42 PM
Hey,

following a defaulted loan I have 5000 CRGO tokens that I want to sell.
Token value is about 1$ right now, ICO was quite successful with more than 5m$ raised.

Selling everything for 20% of its value to the first coming. PM me if interested.
1056  Economy / Digital goods / Buying: amazon gift cards on: January 05, 2019, 03:10:11 PM
Hey people,

I've got a purchase to make of about 650€ on amazon.fr

I'd love to purchase amazon gift cards for BTC to make this purchase. PM me if you have.
1057  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where are you playing Poker? on: January 04, 2019, 04:56:36 PM
Everyone here is talking about Pokerstars...

And I have to admit that I am yet to find a BTC accepting site that is reliable.
Most of them are either proved scams like betcoin or really poorly made gambling site like Nitrogen...
1058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the price go to 1 BTC = 1 oz gold again? on: January 04, 2019, 04:52:01 PM
Dude I hope it will.

Imagine that? I would buy everything I can. I'm already largely all in but if it drops so low I might even take a loan to invest...
That would be frankly insanely cool.
I'd nearly sell the house xD
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Afraid it is a scam?
Test it with provably fair.

You or someone made a big loss?
Whange the seed and see it the old ones matches with the results.
That's really not difficult to check if a provably fair game is cheating or not...

And it's the guy with 0.5BTC of loss in the site who is talking ^^
1060  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Earn Over 20% ROI A Week [Secure Investment] on: January 04, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Stupid.

7% everyday means that in a month you would have transformed your 1000$ to a bright 7500$. Why would you need investments when you can reach the 10 BTC limit in not even 2 months?
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