Thatīs idealistic approach BADecker, while I find it cool and all, it completely ignores the human nature and its historical development.
Laws emerged as codified rules of tribal customs, reflecting moral views of locals. Indeed the purpose of man in this conservative environment is to provide for and protect the family (basis of clan and through clan of larger society), while (young fertile) woman is the prerequisite for existence of family.
This may give you some outlook, why outside of our liberal, postmodern bubble, it is indeed not only possible, but "norm" to arrange marriages, "abuse" ones children or even commit "honor killing". Individual becomes a liability, when his actions put rest of the clan at danger or even make the group appear weak. This is not specialty of Islam, Hindus, east Asian and Westerners have all build basis of modern day society around this model, while it excused countless acts of wrongdoings, it proved itself as working.
It IS rather idealistic. It is, because nobody takes the laws back down to their bottom line to show that they are there for helping people and nothing else. If a clan or family agrees to killing anyone who has harmed no-one else, that clan or family is the one doing the harm. Actually, one of the reasons that the U.S., Britain, Canada, and Australia have had as much success as nations as they have had is that they adhere much to the principle of "Love your neighbor... ." While they don't do it officially as love, it is built into the basic laws of these countries, that people can do almost anything that they want as long as they harm no-one, nor damage his property. Living people can even stand up against corporate governments in these nations, and win.  Anglo-saxon model is also traditionally outlined along the lines I described above (thatīs why, you make such a big deal about "anti-discrimination" in modern day caste society), I see success rather in advantageous geographics, can-do attitude rightfully attributed to anglo nations and perhaps even genetics. Postmodern "free thinker" is historically unproven model, only socially accepted in the past 50 years or so. Time will tell, if he has any future. I am sceptical. Old Rome (after leaving behind its traditions) also had no effective answers for religious fundamentalism and tribal mentality. No matter which model anyone looks at, when you get down to the basics, all people are the same and different. People are all the same in that they need air to breathe, water to drink, food to eat, and clothing and shelter. In addition, they all have consciousness, the ability to think, emotions, arms hands heads legs feet, etc. People are all different in the fact that there are no two people exactly the same in any of the things mentioned. All models at their basic form go back to "love your neighbor as yourself" because all are the same. This means sharing as needed. Love is necessary for overlooking the differences. I think, you are mixing up apples and oranges here, mister. What you have said is clearly based on fact (or rather western liberal morals), however your relativisation of differences gives NO explanation why in some cultures/ethnic groups western definition of rape is more prevalent, than in others. Futhermore, it makes no argument, if rape as byproduct of said culture is beneficial or harmful for the rest of the society - that makes binding laws afterall. |
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This thread needs clean up badly. Trolls and "white knights" overtook it, while rational disscusion waned.
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Considering someone mindless might be rational, hating him for it is not. Atheists (also represented by nazis and communists, who replaced God with an idea of "collective good") might be just as militant as their religious neighbours. The point is, that you cannot judge person by ideology he was brought up in.
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As far as western media go, german Spiegel has decent track record. However to expect unbiased news is quite naive, news are made by people, who get paid for the way they inform public  |
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Any ideas from MasterLuc? I am one ear.
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Thatīs idealistic approach BADecker, while I find it cool and all, it completely ignores the human nature and its historical development.
Laws emerged as codified rules of tribal customs, reflecting moral views of locals. Indeed the purpose of man in this conservative environment is to provide for and protect the family (basis of clan and through clan of larger society), while (young fertile) woman is the prerequisite for existence of family.
This may give you some outlook, why outside of our liberal, postmodern bubble, it is indeed not only possible, but "norm" to arrange marriages, "abuse" ones children or even commit "honor killing". Individual becomes a liability, when his actions put rest of the clan at danger or even make the group appear weak. This is not specialty of Islam, Hindus, east Asian and Westerners have all build basis of modern day society around this model, while it excused countless acts of wrongdoings, it proved itself as working.
It IS rather idealistic. It is, because nobody takes the laws back down to their bottom line to show that they are there for helping people and nothing else. If a clan or family agrees to killing anyone who has harmed no-one else, that clan or family is the one doing the harm. Actually, one of the reasons that the U.S., Britain, Canada, and Australia have had as much success as nations as they have had is that they adhere much to the principle of "Love your neighbor... ." While they don't do it officially as love, it is built into the basic laws of these countries, that people can do almost anything that they want as long as they harm no-one, nor damage his property. Living people can even stand up against corporate governments in these nations, and win. Anglo-saxon model is also traditionally outlined along the lines I described above (thatīs why, you make such a big deal about "anti-discrimination" in modern day caste society), I see success rather in advantageous geographics, can-do attitude rightfully attributed to anglo nations and perhaps even genetics. Postmodern "free thinker" is historically unproven model, only socially accepted in the past 50 years or so. Time will tell, if he has any future. I am sceptical. Old Rome (after leaving behind its traditions) also had no effective answers for religious fundamentalism and tribal mentality. |
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Today and last night is the result of the police mishandling someone they arrested, not getting them immediate medical help, then the due dying. Predictably, many people around the area w/ the same skin color act as though they knew the guy and start doing their usual protesting that inevitably gets taken over by the small and feeble minded, in this case the ghettoheads. The police screwed up but this kind of 'protesting' needs to be rooted out by the respectable members of the neighborhood.
While I understand the angle of protesters - very, very sub-par living standarts in comparison to the rest of N.A. and underemployment, I cant help but notice, that African-Americans react to these circumstances in packish, passive agressive ways as modus operandi. It is really reminiscent of extreme forms of nationalism in last centurys Europe. Just outsiders perspective Is there some group that reacts differently? In N.A.? I see similar behavior among feminists and LGBT activists, but those are not tied together by ethnic self-designation. |
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Thatīs idealistic approach BADecker, while I find it cool and all, it completely ignores the human nature and its historical development.
Laws emerged as codified rules of tribal customs, reflecting moral views of locals. Indeed the purpose of man in this conservative environment is to provide for and protect the family (basis of clan and through clan of larger society), while (young fertile) woman is the prerequisite for existence of family.
This may give you some outlook, why outside of our liberal, postmodern bubble, it is indeed not only possible, but "norm" to arrange marriages, "abuse" ones children or even commit "honor killing". Individual becomes a liability, when his actions put rest of the clan at danger or even make the group appear weak. This is not specialty of Islam, Hindus, east Asian and Westerners have all build basis of modern day society around this model, while it excused countless acts of wrongdoings, it proved itself as working.
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Today and last night is the result of the police mishandling someone they arrested, not getting them immediate medical help, then the due dying. Predictably, many people around the area w/ the same skin color act as though they knew the guy and start doing their usual protesting that inevitably gets taken over by the small and feeble minded, in this case the ghettoheads. The police screwed up but this kind of 'protesting' needs to be rooted out by the respectable members of the neighborhood.
While I understand the angle of protesters - very, very sub-par living standarts in comparison to the rest of N.A. and underemployment, I cant help but notice, that African-Americans react to these circumstances in packish, passive agressive ways as modus operandi. It is really reminiscent of extreme forms of nationalism in last centurys Europe. Just outsiders perspective |
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Atleast you have debate about this in your country, in rest of the west, question of open carry for civilians is pretty much taboo. |
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I think the western definition of "marital rape" is way to goddamn wide. In some countries it means partner being abused to the point of being hospitalized. In others, its sufficient, that woman makes up her mind post-coitus and man is considered guilty, until proven otherwise.
Right! Part of the question should be, "Is it a crime for a marriage partner to deny sex to the other partner when the other partner requests (demands) it?" And if it is a crime, is it always a crime? Or are there certain circumstances under which it is a crime, while it is not a crime under other circumstances? After all, indulging in the sex act is a great portion of the reason why people get married in the first place. In majority of arab countries, marriage is indeed good reason to get sex for "free". Also as part of this arrangement, woman is expected to provide both sex and children, unless her health prohibits it. Forcing partner to sex is therefore no offense there, women would be will advised to keep silent about it, as inability to provide for their husband readily is considered shameful. Thatīs why I earlier mentioned very vague international "standarts". |
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Chef, all of candidates of the two major parties will work for more centralization and more state. Idealism is misplaced here, every president these days is under immense pressure by both lobbyists paying his campaign and ever increasing administrative apparatus. One person wont stop it, if (s)he really tried.
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Nemo,
given my limited knowledge of PMC, I find it highly unlikely, that those "western troops" are regulers from NATO. Rather, it would make sense to finance contractors via third party (like Kiev via IMF). Very similar strategy was employed in Afganistan, where CIA financed Pakistanis to basically found Taliban to fight USSR.
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Carter: Return of the Crimea to Russia was Inevitable
May 1st, 2015
Adapted from Rusvesna and VOA - Joaquin Flores
Former US President Jimmy Carter, in an interview with radio station "Voice of America", said that the reunification of Russia and the Crimea was an inevitable event.
How is it that as soon as a US president vacates his office, he suddenly starts talking sense? Is there some kind of virus in the White House office that makes people occupying it behave irrationally. Actually, if you ever live outside US, you will observe, that it is rule rather than exception Politicians on all levels of power do this. |
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I think the western definition of "marital rape" is way to goddamn wide. In some countries it means partner being abused to the point of being hospitalized. In others, its sufficient, that woman makes up her mind post-coitus and man is considered guilty, until proven otherwise.
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Well, United States found it important to install democracy in Lybia (aswell as Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Syria and with minor tweaks - UKRAINE), while ignoring islamic dictatorships in Persian gulf (I look at you Saudis). So I say, american citizens should now take care about millions of victims of democracy, not Italians, Greeks or Germans. Maybe, White House would then think twice before orchestrating another Color revolution. http://www.targetmap.com/ThumbnailsReports/9600_THUMB_IPAD.jpg |
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What geniuses, they've gone and created one of the tiniest countries on earth that's landlocked, which means they won't have any real trade with other countries to help their country grow to begin with. Look it's a noble idea and everything, but just once I'd wish there was someone out there who had thought their actions through. To me it seems like this is just another pet project of some rich people like Sealand and they haven't given it any serious thought, take a look at what the Kurds are doing in Iraq and Syria, their operation is something I've been learning about awhile and it makes people like this look like a joke.
You need much more than just a few idiots planting a flag to form a country, I expect the Czech army to roll in within weeks and arrest them because naturally these guys won't have thought that far ahead and gotten themselves some weaponry to fight back with which they would have been able to do if they had a real coastal region for themselves.
Can freedom (for a country) exist without a strong military force? Yes, atleast in Europe. Neither Monaco, nor Lichtenstein has military force to my knowledge. Their independence is guaranteed by their neighbours and central Europeans generally respect written agreements. Historically, Holy Roman Empire of German Nation functioned in similar way, there were literally hundreds of counties and free cities with only minority having standing armies. |
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Ah, my countrymen at action again. Czechs never cease to surprise me and I live among them my whole life. Nice project, I just hope it is more, than a way of making headlines before next election (Jedlicka is member czech "Free ones" libertarian party).
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I can imagine the outrage this would cause; given limited resources in a finite universe, coupled with the limits of time and pretty much universal demand, and the difference between rich and poor...yeah, that's a movie idea if I ever heard one, did someone make it yet?
Either United Nations can adopt one child policy or keep the cost of therapy so high, that lower 99% cant afford it. Problem solved. |
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