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1201  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Business forum bitcoinbusiness.org on: September 17, 2012, 04:03:44 AM
Your sig link doesn't work for me.

Sorry about that just go to http://www.bitcoinbusiness.org

If you do not register you can not see the whole site

Looks good. I think the tag line is misleading if I'm understanding the point.

We currently have a forum (bitcointalk) where everyone really is welcome (scammers, thieves, trolls, etc) and you are trying for something with higher quality average posts and will eject people for sucking, right?

Granted "where you are always welcome until you suck" isn't great. But "Higher standards" or something like that but more clever might get the point across.


1202  Economy / Economics / Re: Poll - If the reward halving is being changed, will you quit bitcoin? on: September 17, 2012, 03:59:05 AM
I don't care I will continue to sell BTC for real cash as fast as I can.  BTC is a pipe dream. FIAT in its awful glory is what matters. BTC is only worth anything because is can be changed to FIAT. Take that away and its worthless binary

You've got it backwards. It can be converted to other currencies because it is in fact worth something.
1203  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Basic income guarantee - opinions&criticism welcome on: September 16, 2012, 10:33:10 PM
Make sure your plan details what happens to people who refuse (rape, murder and imprisonment generally get decent compliance rates). And don't forget to budget for that too, institutionalized rape costs a lot even if you do it in a bare concrete room and serve animal food with it.

People who refuse what? To take the money? Then they are free to not do it, and it can be donated to needy stand-up comedians on the Bitcoin Forum Wink
Or perhaps you are talking about people who refuse to pay taxes - then they are free to move to another country, of course. One that has ghettos, higher infant mortality and low societal stability because of the income inequality.

You probably won't need to torture the recipients.

So it'll be like, "Please leave your house and other assets behind or we'll fight you to the death." or more like "Sorry you missed your chance to leave, locking/killing you to proceed immediately."
1204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why no press/PR re: the London Conference? on: September 16, 2012, 08:42:19 PM
to which Stallman replied "because the state protects the poor from the rich."
Was he then laughed off the stage?

Lol.

Yes, the poor are so well represented in seats of power around the world.
1205  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Business forum bitcoinbusiness.org on: September 16, 2012, 08:01:16 PM
Your sig link doesn't work for me.
1206  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Basic income guarantee - opinions&criticism welcome on: September 16, 2012, 07:19:00 PM
Make sure your plan details what happens to people who refuse (rape, murder and imprisonment generally get decent compliance rates). And don't forget to budget for that too, institutionalized rape costs a lot even if you do it in a bare concrete room and serve animal food with it.
1207  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu - We have bitcoin poker action on: September 16, 2012, 07:02:06 PM
is it possible to play Seals through Tor? In many countries playing poker online is dangerous (except the state-controlled websites).

While it would be technically possible, the lag introduced by hopping all over the world through Tor would probably make it unplayable.

Yes, it is -possible- but I don't expect it'll be enjoyable at all.

Maybe someone will make 'slow motion poker' that would work well over TOR.
1208  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DDOS for ransom on: September 16, 2012, 06:08:01 AM
It doesn't seem like it would work.

You pay and they continue... then what?

If the DDoSer linked themselves to a psudo-identity they could build a rep for not doing that.

But it's still ridiculously unstable because once you pay you are a better target. Oh, n/m about the psudo-identity, they can just pretend to be someone new DDoSing you.

Odd to me that they would try for such a high amount in this case. Without knowing much about WalletBit it makes me wonder if the ransom is just weak cover for someone doing it out of spite.
1209  Economy / Lending / Re: Why do you borrow bitcoins? on: September 16, 2012, 06:01:35 AM
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I don't think "I have income denominated in bitcoin" is a very good answer, either.

That's pretty much the only good reason I can think of.

If you wanted to be roughly neutral and were working for a company who promised bitcoins on completion and you fully trust them you might borrow to hedge that. I really doubt it would be worth it at the rates around here, but if you've got to make rent or whatever it could be wise.

Borrowing coins is usually a terrible mistake imo.
1210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Using percentage of bitcoins instead of number of bitcoins on: September 16, 2012, 04:57:47 AM
Displaying as the percent of mined coins would be slightly interesting. I think there is a group that wants money to disappear over time, might be a good feel for them.
1211  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Using percentage of bitcoins instead of number of bitcoins on: September 16, 2012, 02:51:12 AM
On some level I wish there was only 1 bitcoin and we all used parts of it. Would make the haters even more furious. "OMG ROFL 1 bitcoin economy!!"
1212  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Finland might be the first country for widespread Bitcoin adoption! on: September 16, 2012, 02:14:43 AM
i live in a small place on the edge of akershus / østfold, and ive gotten a few of the shop owners interested in bitcoin Smiley
hopefully i can go buy groceries etc with bitcoins in a few months Tongue
That gives me an idea. Instead of having the Bitcoin conferences in big cities like London, New York, Prague where we are not noticed, we should have the conference in a small town where it makes a much bigger impression.

In most countries, there are regional Tourist Authorities that try to attract conferences to their resorts, especially in the low season. This can be used as a leverage for bitcoin adoption. So we say to a big hotel/resort that we will take 200 hotel rooms if they agree to accept bitcoin for payment. And simultaneously we say to the local chamber of commerce that we will bring 300 conference attendees to their town if the local businesses add bitcoin to their payment options.

That seems like a decent plan. I bet a lot of bitcoiners would be willing to trek to a more out of the way destination for a goal like that.

I doubt that "If your local businesses accept bitcoin then we'll come" is the way to go, but more like "We're coming, tell your local businesses we have bitcoins to spend and we're going to buy where they are accepted." With the exception of the venue itself perhaps. Shop around until you find a satisfactory venue that will accept coin then go tell chamber of commerce, local media etc.

Might work even better for like a week long bitcoin party/vacation/conference.
1213  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Actual Problems with AnCap on: September 15, 2012, 11:21:13 PM
Seems like a group of people with 0.001% of military power will be a lot more civilized and strive to avoid conflict than a group with 10% or 60%.
1214  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sponsoring IPs to block unfriendly sites on: September 15, 2012, 08:32:47 PM
obv troll.

ISPs are going to block 99.99% of sites, right....

that's besides the general insanity of it.

I eagerly await your next terrible pretend idea.

Maybe punching tellers at banks that won't accept bitcoin deposits?
1215  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much money have you spent on Bitcoin? on: September 15, 2012, 04:11:32 PM
~Everything
1216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many bitcoin is a days work worth? on: September 15, 2012, 03:13:25 PM
Nobody is going from $2/day to $500/day. The current money and political system absolutely limits who in the world you can trade your work for $3/day with. It's a huge ladder with nearly all the rungs busted out.
1217  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu - We have bitcoin poker action on: September 15, 2012, 05:06:48 AM
The weekend is coming.

The Drifter has drifted all the way to 11am, that's a nice time on a Saturday imo.

The Saturday 5BTC Guarantee looks like it's going to be a big one. Just 0.1BTC to enter.

And don't forget the Sunday 60BTC.
1218  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 1 hour for a safe transaction? on: September 15, 2012, 03:41:10 AM
If zero confirmations is sufficient then why did MyBitcoin fail?  They said that their coins were stolen because of this mistake:

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...It appears to be human error combined with a misunderstanding of how Bitcoin secures transactions into the next block. Our programmer was under the assumption that one block was good enough to secure a transaction. Two years ago when the software was written, this single confirm myth was a popular belief.
In hindsight we should have credited deposits after one confirmation so they would show up in the transaction history, and held the deposit until it reached at least 3 confirmations. Keeping track of two balances and displaying them in the login area would have been trivial. ...

Full quote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34770.0

People lie. This is an example of that.
1219  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 1 hour for a safe transaction? really? how is this being addressed? on: September 15, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
I've accepted over 6000 transactions at 0 confirms without any problems. I recently made some changes to limit the possible damage, but I still don't expect any trouble. Requiring 6 seems outrageously careful.

1220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1BR: Should the block reward be 50 BTC for ages? on: September 15, 2012, 12:29:05 AM
You most certainly wouldn't be alone. The rules of Bitcoin are the main reason I am here and am using it.

I see so few people say this, I sometimes wonder (I guess it goes without saying, but occasionally it needs said)! Thank you!

I have my software set so that I'll automatically keep using bitcoin even if someone else starts using a different system.
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