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1261  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm back! on: April 23, 2013, 04:46:25 PM
Age is a minor issue. But if it's a lie (which I believe it is), then what else is a lie? If you're going to lie about something so simple, then what about the complicated/elaborate things that you're speaking of?

Welcome to bitcointalk, you'll fit right in here.
1262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm back! on: April 23, 2013, 04:43:05 PM
he/she (Zhou Tong) should be proving it.

Couldn't agree more..if it had something to do with anything. What does his age have to do with anything though?
1263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm back! on: April 23, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
This person (Zhou Tong) isn't 18.  Without going into details, ..
..or evidence. Amirite?

1264  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com and Ed trice on: April 23, 2013, 01:33:34 PM
Gonna call his "partner" today when he wakes up and make sure he's aware of the situation.
1265  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com and Ed trice on: April 23, 2013, 01:27:42 PM
Name
EDWARD A TRICE

DOB
12/05

EMAILS
liquidnitrogenoverclocking@hushmail.com - inactive
edwardtrice@aol.com

PHONE NUMBERS
610-818-5063 - confirmed business line
(215) 661-0276 - confirmed landline

SSN
179-58-xxxx

CRIMINAL RECORD
Crime Details - 01/16/2007 - DELAWARE, PA
HARASSMENT - SUBJECT OTHER TO PHYSICAL CONTACT (2 counts)

Crime Details - 01/05/2007 - DELAWARE, PA
DISORDER CONDUCT HAZARDOUS/PHYSI OFF  (dismissed)

EMPLOYMENT
Business Name: LIQUID NITRGN OVERCLOCKING INC
Phone: (610) 818-5063
Business Address: 2711 CENTERVILLE RD, WILMINGTON, DE 19808 (New Castle COUNTY)

ADDRESS
337 FARM LN, NORTH WALES, PA 19454

ADDRESS HISTORY (dates are approximate)
337 FARM LN, NORTH WALES, PA 19454-2349 (MONTGOMERY COUNTY) (02/1998 to 04/22/2013)
Owners: EDWARD J TRICE   &  PATRICIA R TRICE

164 ERVIN AVE, MARCUS HOOK, PA 19061-4314 (DELAWARE COUNTY) (04/2006 to 01/2013)
Owner: ELISA SLAUGHTERBECK

151 FRONEFIELD AVE, MARCUS HOOK, PA 19061-4317 (DELAWARE COUNTY) (08/17/2005 to 10/18/2012)
Owners: JOHN WOODALL  &  HEATHER WOODALL

804 VASSAR DR, HATFIELD, PA 19440-3472 (MONTGOMERY COUNTY) (12/13/2001 to 05/31/2011)
Owners: VENKATA BALACHANDRAN  &  RADHIKA RAGHURAMAN

BANKRUPTCY RECORDS
Chapter: 13
Case Number: 0415858
Filing Date: 04/27/2004
Dismissal Date: 05/06/2004
Closed Date: 06/15/2004
Assets Available: Y
Notice Type: DISMISSAL

Chapter: 13
Case Number: 0411131
Filing Date: 01/28/2004
Dismissal Date: 02/25/2004
Closed Date: 04/02/2004
Assets Available: Y
Notice Type: DISMISSAL

(He tried to file for bankruptcy twice and was denied both times)


JUDGMENTS (5 FOUND)
Address: 804 VASSAR DR, HATFIELD, PA 19440-3472 (Montgomery COUNTY)
Filing Type: CIVIL NEW FILING
Plaintiff: JANSON D/B/A HOUSEINSPECT
Court Case Number: CV000030705
Total Judgment Amount: $505
Filing Date: 09/12/2005

Address: 151 FRONEFIELD AVE, MARCUS HOOK, PA 19061-4317 (Delaware COUNTY)
Filing County: DELAW
Filing Type: SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT
Plaintiff: LERMA C WOLFE
Court Case Number: LT000024105
Total Judgment Amount: $1,312
Filing Date: 06/30/2005

Address: 151 FRONEFIELD AVE, MARCUS HOOK, PA 19061-4317 (Delaware COUNTY)
Filing County: DELAW
Filing Type: CIVIL NEW FILING
Plaintiff: LERMA C WOLFE
Court Case Number: LT000024105
Total Judgment Amount: $0
Filing Date: 06/15/2005

Address: 2190 SUNRISE WAY, JAMISON, PA 18929-1347 (Bucks COUNTY)
Filing County: BUCKS
Filing Type: SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT
Plaintiff: ERIC PELLEGRINO
Court Case Number: LT000053104
Total Judgment Amount: $5,532
Filing Date: 01/18/2005

Address: 2190 SUNRISE WAY, JAMISON, PA 18929-1347 (Bucks COUNTY)
Filing County: BUCKS
Filing Type: CIVIL NEW FILING
Plaintiff: ERIC PELLEGRINO
Court Case Number: LT000053104
Total Judgment Amount: $5,400


PROPERTY
337 FARM LN, NORTH WALES, PA 19454-2349 (MONTGOMERY COUNTY)
Owner: EDWARD J TRICE & Owner: PATRICIA R TRICE
APN: 56-00-04574-203
APN Sequence Number: 001
Date Subject First Seen as Owner: 07/05/1995
Date Subject Last Seen as Owner: 2012
Subdivision Name: WOODS/GWYNEDD UN 48
Legal Description: 50 X 93 4650 SF
Living Square Feet: 1,636
Land Square Feet: 1,636
Year Built: 1995

    Latest Tax Roll/Assessment Information
    Tax Year: 2011
    Tax Amount: $3,399.36
    Assessed Year: 2012
    Assessed Value: $132,460
    Sale Date: 07/05/1995
    Sale Amount: $137,137
    Book: 5118
    Page: 2465
    Total Value: $132,460
    Bedrooms: 2
    Baths: 2


    Mortgage
    Lender: TRUMARK FIN'L CU
    Mortgage Amount: $25,000
    Mortgage Loan Type: Conventional
    Mortgage Deed Type: Mortgage
    Mortgage Date: 05/07/2010
    Mtg Sec Cat: CNV, Adjustable, Equity (Closed or Revolving), Conforming
    Mortgage Interest Rate Type: Adjustable
    Equity Flag: Yes

    Mortgage
    Lender: HARLEYSVILLE NAT'L BK&TR CO
    Mortgage Amount: $50,000
    Mortgage Loan Type: Conventional
    Mortgage Deed Type: Mortgage
    Mortgage Date: 10/31/2006
    Mtg Sec Cat: CNV, Adjustable, Equity (Closed or Revolving), Conforming
    Mortgage Interest Rate Type: Adjustable
    Equity Flag: Yes

    Mortgage
    Lender: HARLEYSVILLE NAT'L BK&TR CO
    Mortgage Amount: $50,000
    Mortgage Loan Type: Conventional
    Mortgage Deed Type: Mortgage
    Mortgage Date: 11/15/2002
    Mtg Sec Cat: CNV, Adjustable, Equity (Closed or Revolving), Conforming
    Mortgage Interest Rate Type: Adjustable
    Equity Flag: Yes

    Mortgage
    Lender: NAVY FCU
    Mortgage Amount: $40,000
    Mortgage Loan Type: Conventional
    Mortgage Deed Type: Deed of Trust
    Mortgage Date: 07/19/1995
    Mtg Sec Cat: CNV, Fixed, Conforming

Owner Relationship Type: Husband And Wife
Sale Date: 07/05/1995
Sale Amount: $137,137
Absentee Indicator: Situs Address Taken From Sales Transaction - Determined Owner Occupied
Deed Sec Cat: Residential (Modeled)
Universal Land Use: Condominium
Property Indicator: Condominium (Residential)
Resale New Construction: Resale
Residential Model Indicator: Based On Zip Code and Value Property is Residential
1266  Economy / Services / Re: The Million Bitcoin Page (Official) on: April 23, 2013, 06:09:01 AM
There are literally 12 of these for botcoin already and all of them are failures because they're completely unoriginal.
1267  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Punching Yourself? on: April 23, 2013, 04:01:05 AM
1268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm back! on: April 23, 2013, 03:46:17 AM
I had a question that repentance had answered previously, but I wanted to get clarification.

When AurumXChange locked up your funds (was it like $50,000?), you said they never gave it back (even to this day), but repentance said it wasn't your funds but your friends, so there is no way to get it back. Can you clarify?

Honestly, I don't care about those funds or your friend, I just don't like the idea of MtGox, AurumXChange, etc jacking funds from people whenever they personally feel it's legitimate to do so (without any legal request to do so) and then never answering questions about it later.

Where did that money even go?

I was doing a LR->USD exchange for a Singapore friend (total $100K, and $30K in XMLGold, $40K in AurumXChange, and the rest OTC). He paid me $100K in LR and I paid my friend $100K in full (taking a huge loss), so the $40K should be mine. It's a transfer from my LR account to my bank account. It's never a third-party transfer like some other said.

At that time, I told CJH (the Bitcoinica hacker) about AurumXChange's accusation (I had to tell). He decided to withhold $40K from the payment to Patrick Murck. I asked him not to, but he persisted. Later, he gave me a verified Alipay account with $40K equivalent in CNY. I didn't bother to touch the funds because AurumXChange was lying to me about their correspondence. (To date I still haven't received a single email from them, despite their false claims on the forum).

Now CJH is gone (phone: powered off, QQ: offline, email: no response) and the Alipay account got its password changed (most likely by him after withdrawing the funds).

So AurumXChange has succeeded in ripping off $40K by using the coincidence of Bitcoinica hack and my Singapore trip (I can even show anyone my passport stamps of leaving Australia during the hack, PM me). There was no AML investigation and I didn't receive anything.

I allowed them to send to Bitcoinica because I felt it's better in Bitcoinica creditors' hands rather than theirs. No matter how they feel about whether it's an insider job or not (it's not), they have my full consent to send money to Bitcoinica. (Even if it's really an insider job, the money should also be sent to Bitcoinica, with or without my consent). But they clearly didn't do anything and kept the funds for themselves.

I'm no longer mad at them but I still hope AurumXchange can do the right thing. I will take the reputation hit as a punishment for not choosing business partners carefully (the Bitcoinica Consultancy) and it's understandable that AurumXchange wanted to do good for the community by revealing suspects.

Thank you for clarifying what I had suspected. I don't feel so bad for how I originally reacted to them now.
1269  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm back! on: April 23, 2013, 03:28:11 AM
I had a question that repentance had answered previously, but I wanted to get clarification.

When AurumXChange locked up your funds (was it like $50,000?), you said they never gave it back (even to this day), but repentance said it wasn't your funds but your friends, so there is no way to get it back. Can you clarify?

Honestly, I don't care about those funds or your friend, I just don't like the idea of MtGox, AurumXChange, etc jacking funds from people whenever they personally feel it's legitimate to do so (without any legal request to do so) and then never answering questions about it later.

Where did that money even go?
1270  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 23, 2013, 02:49:37 AM
All you heroes who want to avoid taxes are not making any friends with those of us who must make up for your greed. Do you think all the services you use are free?

Tell you what.

Abolish all taxes beyond the local (city or county) level.

Expel or assimilate non-local service providers providing service in the local area.

Institute "pay cost" for use on all services provided by non-local entities.

Then we can talk about greed.

Until then, the greedy who want me to pay for their services can take a flying leap.

That's exactly what this guy is trying to do in Nevada. I'm moving there if he succeeds.
1271  Other / Off-topic / Re: Oh god I had to share this with you guys on: April 23, 2013, 01:01:49 AM
May we see a scan/picture of this letter? That sounds insane, even by my standards.

I agree, it my country has resorted to elementary school grade coercion tactics, I want to know about it. Pics or it didn't happen.
1272  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Your thoughts on BitCoin becoming a new world currency ? on: April 23, 2013, 12:48:57 AM
World order? No.
World currency? See above. (It is an insanely bad and dangerous idea to have a world currency that everyone relied on solely due to the inherent risks of corruption and security failure.)

Local currency competition? Yes.
Internet payment competition? Yes.

Bottom line, Bitcoin is a first of a kind, not the last.
1273  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: April 22, 2013, 04:08:10 PM
Wait, so the PSU everyone is getting with the 4 module units in Batch 3 won't be strong enough to power it? Why would they offer it then?

Looks like this guy missed the option: order without PSU. Well spent money though.

Edit: If not happy, you can ship the extra module to me in China - I give you BTC after I get it in safe condition, or we can arrange a meeting in Korea next month.

I saw the option and ordered with PSU. The question is, why would that PSU not be sufficient?
1274  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitinstant paycard on: April 22, 2013, 03:22:09 PM
Is this ever happening? The whole community was excited about it despite the fact that 2 other companies already provided the exact same thing long before this was prematurely announced. I for one am extremely bummed. I was going to use my BitInstant card all over the world. I guess it went the way of the Bitcoincard.
1275  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Norwegian finance minister - statement about Bitcoin on: April 22, 2013, 03:17:45 PM
Ive already got the wheels rolling in this reguard for contacting them as well, and as president I will be reporting everything in a transparent fashion on this forum.

You're the president of Norway?
1276  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Who else from Avalon batch 1 hasn't received a unit or shipping information? on: April 22, 2013, 02:46:34 PM
Jesus, this makes it pretty hard to be confident about a batch 3 order.   Cry
1277  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Scammer] Woodstock on: April 22, 2013, 02:41:49 PM
In this post you explained that you are satisfied with simply taking one for the team so that others can benefit from the mistake (something I truly believed when I first came here too):

I agree, the scam was pretty obvious. I actually think it was worth the cost just for the sake of this thread, if it prevents the same thing happening to any other newbies.

-Be vigilant

-Don't get complacent

-Always use escrow

In this post, you give the perfect reasoning behind others not learning from your lesson at all (e.g. they all think the same thing at first).

What I can't get my head around is why these people even bother? This person registered in February, made the 5 posts required to get out of newbie section and then proceeded with his 'cunning plan'. Assuming that only two of us were stupid enough to send him any money he will have made what, a few hundred dollars? For less effort he could make twice that in a week conducting legitimate business...

I agree with your statement and feel the same, but most of these scammers cannot for whatever reason (age, legal status, criminal background, deformities) get a job or have an original thought.

So long as there are people willing to ignore common sense and "take one for the team", there will be scammers coming here looking for suckers.
1278  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com and Ed trice on: April 22, 2013, 02:28:06 PM
papamoi, he is not ignorant of bitcoin, he's purposely scamming you. He's offering bitcoin mining rigs to the general public now at this link.

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/news_21.shtml
Quote
April 8, 2013
BitCoin Mining Systems

For those who are aware of the so-called ASIC hardware BitCoin miners that seem to take months to obtain and can't do anything else, how about a high-powered computer system you can use to BitCoin mine also?

 

For those who are unaware of what a BitCoin is, we offer this explanation from the April 2013 opening paragraph shown in Wikepedia

Bitcoin (BTC) is an online digital commodity that is based on an open-source, peer-to-peer encryption protocol first described in 2009 by a pseudonymous developer (or developers) named Satoshi Nakamoto. Bitcoin is not managed by any government or central authority. Instead, it relies on an Internet-based network. The creation of new bitcoins is automated and given to servers or "bitcoin miners" that confirm bitcoin creation as they add codes to a decentralized and archived log approximately every 10 minutes.

If this seems a little nebulous, we agree with you. Ignoring the details, here is what is important about Bitcoin:

Anybody can get involved by simply running "Bitcoin mining" programs that award Bitcoins just for participating in the hunt for them.
The value of just one single Bitcoin could potentially reach thousands of dollars (or much more).
It will become progressively more difficult to be awarded a Bitcoin as time goes on and more "miners" participate in the effort.

Surprisingly, just having a fast overclocked CPU will not propel you to the top of the Bitcoin Mining Heap. In fact, GPUs are better Bitcoin miners than CPUs. Again, without getting too technical, the thousands of so called CUDA capable cores within a high-end GPU can crush a fast CPU with only a handful of cores. And the "best" and fastest video card is not necessarily the best at Bitcoin mining.

There is a great deal of information on Bitcoin Mining as close as your favorite search engine and fingertips, but if you don't want to wade through all of that information, and you don't want to spend thousands of dollars on hardware that doesn't do anything else but "mine," continue reading.

Because the process of mining involves operating on secured data at the "bit" level, you will see the units of "speed" mentioned in terms of Megahash/second or Gigahash/second, abbreviated as MHash/sec and GHash/sec respectively. The Mega- prefix indicates 1 million/second while the Giga- prefix specifies 1 billion (or 1000 million to those from England) operations per second. In essence, more-per-second is better (of course) since it will result in more Bitcoins being awared to you in a given amount of time. We at Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking have taken a great deal of the guesswork out of all of this hash-talk, and offer three different mining systems:

Bitcoin Mining Products
Product   CPU @ Speed   Total CUDA Core Count   Bitcoin Production   Price
Corporal Miner   Intel i7-2700K @ 5.00 GHz   2,668   0.10 Bitcoins/Day   $4,500
Captain Miner   Intel i7-3970X @ 5.00 GHz   5,200+   0.25 Bitcoins/Day   $6,750
Major Miner   Intel i7-3970X @ 5.00 GHz   10,400+   0.50 Bitcoins/Day   $9,000

Please bear in mind these Bitcoin production figures are taken from actual April 2013 performance figures. As time goes on and Bitcoin mining becomes more popular, the reward for mining per-unit-of-time will drop in proportion to the number of active miners. It is therefore best to get involved in mining earlier rather than later.

We've seen BitCoin reach as high as $250 per coin, but let's use a variety of examples to see how long it would take to completely recover the cost of your hardware, and how much you could earn in one year of mining at the present rate of reward.

$4,500 Corporal Miner @ 0.10 BitCoins/Day
BitCoin Value   ROI @ $X/coin   Total $/year @ $X/coin
$100   450 days   $3,650
$150   300 days   $5,475
$200   225 days   $7,300
$250   180 days   $9,125
$300   150 days   $10,950
$500   90 days   $18,250
$750   60 days   $27,375
$1,000   45 days   $36,500
$2,000   22.5 days   $73,000
$3,000   15 days   $109,500
$5,000   9 days   $182,500
$10,000   4.5 days   $365,000
$6,750 Captain Miner @ 0.25 BitCoins/Day
BitCoin Value   ROI @ $X/coin   Total $/year @ $X/coin
$100   270 days   $9,125
$150   180 days   $13,687
$200   135 days   $18,250
$250   108 days   $22,812
$300   90 days   $27,375
$500   54 days   $45,625
$750   36 days   $68,437
$1,000   27 days   $91,250
$2,000   13.5 days   $182,500
$3,000   9 days   $273,750
$5,000   5.4 days   $456,250
$10,000   2.7 days   $912,500
$9,000 Major Miner @ 0.50 BitCoins/Day
BitCoin Value   ROI @ $X/coin   Total $/year @ $X/coin
$100   180 days   $18,250
$150   120 days   $27,375
$200   90 days   $36,500
$250   72 days   $45,625
$300   60 days   $54,750
$500   36 days   $91,250
$750   24 days   $136,875
$1,000   18 days   $182,500
$2,000   9 days   $365,000
$3,000   6 days   $547,500
$5,000   3.6 days   $912,500
$10,000   1.8 days   $1,825,000


We do not show the actual systems as we do for other builds here on the website, since astute system builders would be able to identify the components used in the construction of these Bitcoin mining systems. But, unlike the dedicated Bitcoin miners out there, our systems can be used for High End Gaming or other complex Scientific Calculations where CUDA technology can be very useful.

Call 610-818-5063 for more informtaion.
1279  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com and Ed trice on: April 22, 2013, 02:23:51 PM
He claims a "strategic new partnership with Derivative Concepts, Inc. as a reseller".

Considering no customer is dumb enough to give him money for his garbage internet sourced images of actual hardware, he's resulted to conning other business owners into doing the sales for him. Time to warn them of their impending "strategic" losses.

EDIT: Apparently there is a http://www.derivativeconceptsinc.com/ owner named Matt Reynolds who is either a real person who was suckered in by him, or is just another faux identity by this Ed Trice creep. I'll try to find some more direct contact info than just his gmail.

1280  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com and Ed trice on: April 22, 2013, 02:15:16 PM
He's also posting on his facebook that this picture is of his office in another state.

The more I read his posts the more he really looks like a sociopath (specifically, Pirateat40). He is stealing people's money for the sake of perpetuating his lifestyle and probably believes he deserves it too.

papamoi, let me be the (4th? 5th?) to say you're an absolute idiot for giving this man your money. That said, this is absolutely comedy gold for the rest of us, because this guy is the type of obvious criminal that internet trolls would *pay* to find.

Thank you for discovering him for us. You may never get your money back, but you've given everyone in the world a reason to target him now. He's more of a liar than Pirate, but worse at it than even that FNIB creep who made up having an office and photoshopped everything. This dude is just using stock photos from the internet claiming they come from his life.

EPIC CREEP.
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