I am mining too, just for hoping that price will be back on in normal profitable range again.
Here's hoping for $1100 BTC for Thanksgiving again this year!  I want $11000 so we can have back last year's action. |
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The other reason was that common sense and contract law make it obvious that an item priced in USD will be refunded on that basis, and not on any exchange rate that never remains constant. There is no "common sense" in business acts, but please eat more shit. This is not a corner market, it's a promise of something. The terms never change after both parties agree upon something. |
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The only reasonable interpretation of "BTC refunds" is a refund of the purchase price (which was always in USD) via BTC as a medium of exchange. Other interpretations are not reasonable because they would imply a windfall in the event of BTC appreciation or a loss in the event of BTC depreciation, neither of which are logical, much less legally permissible. If you chose to seek to take advantage of a "very stupid" and "very risky" interpretation because you are greedy, you got what you deserved.  "Full BTC Refunds" isn't interpretable in any way. It is what it is no matter how much shit you can eat! Au contraire, the facts of recent history demonstrate ample confusion over the conflicting interpretations, as well as the superiority of the reasonable and legal one. "Full" means the full purchase price, which was always in USD. "BTC" means BTC are provided as a pro rata substitute exchange medium for USD. Your pouty stubborn foot stomping, butthurt anger, and resulting scatological insults only emphasize the paucity of your intellect and argument.  Cara disagrees with you! |
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The only reasonable interpretation of "BTC refunds" is a refund of the purchase price (which was always in USD) via BTC as a medium of exchange. Other interpretations are not reasonable because they would imply a windfall in the event of BTC appreciation or a loss in the event of BTC depreciation, neither of which are logical, much less legally permissible. If you chose to seek to take advantage of a "very stupid" and "very risky" interpretation because you are greedy, you got what you deserved. "Full BTC Refunds" isn't interpretable in any way. It is what it is no matter how much shit you can eat! |
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any ideas ?
Try to reboot it and maybe try to reset the PSUs to they can learn again. |
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So, what do you want to know? Why the chips were late and people lost millions in the process? What did Yifu do to cause the chip delay? How can anyone be sure that you won't screw over customers like that again? Why should anyone buy your new units when they will not be profitable? Why kids are still on this declined forum? Same reason scammers like you are allowed on this forum! Stay away from Avalon. ngzhang seems like he wants to be Avalon's Inaba... |
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That's a review unit for some publicist. That shouldn't count. Customer units should count! |
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Thought you guys might appreciate it.
Yours? |
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Assuming all goes well and the spondoolies team like the changes, they should be incorporated into new firmware, and ideally the web interface will be changed to use the API's hashrate meter too.
If this gets incorporated in the firmware does this mean that the miner will auto restart when only one board is hashing? |
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At least there is no need to go to court and spend money for the unlikely result of ZERO refund.
FTC I would say is infinitely a better course vs. the forced bankruptcy but let us see who gets their money and when.
Now that would be funny. The most hated bitcoin company, who delayed products for more than 1 year and had a no refunds policy, gets to pay refunds, but the only company that promised full BTC refunds gets away with it. |
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ah!! i just started doing this, i c i am on the right track. but I've only just Disabled the asic, not set to Removed. Is it necessary to set to Removed (for the whole loop)? and is only a few min.s enough to test each loop? i've been testing each for ~40mins.
Cheers,
QG
I have read that you don't use the Removed option. Only if the physical chip has been extracted. Use Disable! |
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Just imagine what he could do with some newer generation chips...
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Why have the specs not been adjusted to be even slightly competitive?
This is one funny/stupid question. How can they adjust specs if there is a fixed number of chips that go into the SP20? It's like asking a Prisma to do 10Th/s. More absurd stuff from AM shareholders with delirium tremens from the lack of dividends and a share-price that is only going downwards. The AM shareholder crap is getting old, I'd be more concerned with your own business. Slinging mud around doesn't do you any favors or make you look any better. The AM shareholder crap is never getting old if the same people try (and fail) to put SP-Tech in a bad light. I thought it's obvious that Mabsark is spreading lies and his reason to do it is beyond me! How on earth could you believe that SP-Tech cancelled the SP20 without any prior information and that Zvi was fired? I don't want to derail the thread with offtopic stuff so I hope this will end here. *Also I too can say whatever I want on a public forum so thank you for pointing to me what is getting old. |
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Why have the specs not been adjusted to be even slightly competitive?
This is one funny/stupid question. How can they adjust specs if there is a fixed number of chips that go into the SP20? It's like asking a Prisma to do 10Th/s. More absurd stuff from AM shareholders with delirium tremens from the lack of dividends and a share-price that is only going downwards. Well, I got that info directly from Guy: The SP20 should give better results then what we published. We'll get the faster ASICs in 2 weeks and revise the spec.
Also, iit depends on the PSU efficiency.
Better results isn't equal to specs being slightly competitive or not. It's simply better results that are the result of faster than previous ASICs. You should know that chips come in various types (slow, slow-slow, fast, fast-fast, typical etc). |
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Why have the specs not been adjusted to be even slightly competitive?
This is one funny/stupid question. How can they adjust specs if there is a fixed number of chips that go into the SP20? It's like asking a Prisma to do 10Th/s. More absurd stuff from AM shareholders with delirium tremens from the lack of dividends and a share-price that is only going downwards. |
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I have a question. I was just checking my miners and I saw this: 12 Hours 4,055.16 Gh/s
3 Hours 2,780.54 Gh/s
22.5 Minutes 2,114.32 Gh/s I logged into my miner and it's hashing at a steady 4500GH with no downswings during the last 24 hours. What is going on? Hey roadstress that looks suspiciously like an issue I spotted with the sp30s. They can think they're still hashing at full hashrate but one asic stops generating shares. By one asic you mean one full asic board I assume since it hashes for half speed. This happened 3 times during last week, but they were for a shorter period. Right now this is an ongoing issue. I can restart the miner to see if it goes to full speed or I can try another pool for one week to see if this is happening there too. What would you suggest? Is there anything that I can check/do on the miner to extract some valuable information before touching it? |
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I have a question. I was just checking my miners and I saw this: 12 Hours 4,055.16 Gh/s
3 Hours 2,780.54 Gh/s
22.5 Minutes 2,114.32 Gh/s I logged into my miner and it's hashing at a steady 4500GH with no downswings during the last 24 hours. What is going on? |
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WOOOOO!!!!! HOOOOOO!!!!! 2 DA MOOOOOON!!!!!
What moon? AM still has chips after 6 months. What happened with the big plans to deploy/sell lots of PH worth of chips in 1 or 2 months? Do you think AM will finish their BE200 chips stock by the end of the year? |
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Pretty much. The stock is trading purely on fading memories of past dividends at this point.
That's absolutely not true. The stock is trading on the fact that the company is operating smoothly, dominating the hardware market, and owning millions of dollars worth of assets. You can argue that the company is worth less than what it's trading for, but it's clearly not worth nothing. Bitfury just got another 20M$ in funding. That is smooth operation, not AM who is self mining since July, but with an unknown hashrate... |
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