I mine altcoins on my laptop. It has a 6770m AMD graphics card so I can get decent hashrate out of it.
Basically if your laptop is a GAMING laptop with a good graphics chip, it should handle mining just fine,
but don't expect to make much from it, just a hobby to learn or if you get free electricity why not.
You can also eat soup with a fork, but most people don't. Learn to use the best tool for the job. A laptop GPU is too expensive on a $/MH or $/KH basis to mine with - it doesn't warrant the risk. CPU mining might be worth it if the coin was worth it (like early days of PTS or XPM). If you're mining with your laptop's GPU you're trying to ride a tricycle on the Autobahn. |
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Those look very professional and high quality. Sadly the profitability of those miners combined with their limited longevity makes me think most people won't want to spend extra to house something that will become obsolete in 6 months. So many people bought USB hubs for those block eruptors which are now museum pieces.
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I love the part where they say they're under no legal obligation.
They should be refunding the people who want a refund since they haven't shipped. FTC has laws that clearly spell this out, but in BFL's world laws are made to be broken.
Why would anybody want 600GH/s from them now for $4500. You can buy 3 S1s for $500 that do the same thing.
There have been several articles/reports that BFL would use their customer's miners to mine at their pool for their own account. It is almost like they were secretly charging their customers higher prices in the form of delayed shipments. That's last year's news (which sadly is repeated this year). I think the issue smoothie brought up is why cloud mine 600GH/s for a customer when they could ship the device. The reason being that they don't have a device doing 600, or if they do it's not a Monarch (might even be a KNC Jup they bought second hand). They could have some Neptunes and have a program to split the hashes between different accounts, allocating 600GH/s worth of WU to each account - which is most likely what is happening. They probably did this to commit the customer to the purchase rather than acknowledging that they should refund the pre-order. |
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Right now the value of all CPU only coins has dropped so low that even if you mine with a Haswell I7 you would barely make a dime in a month. I did mine with my laptop at the end of last year but only for a few weeks when some new coins launched.
A laptop would be fine for hosting ASICs though. My I7 uses only 20W when idle and it's nice to be able to log in easily with GUI.
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I remember my first phone back in the early 2000's which had no color screen, no camera, and cost about $150. It was difficult to find a phone under that price and very few sold for under $100. Now there's a store in my area selling phones with color screens and the cheapest one they have is selling for about $5. Normally they're a bit more expensive than that but it's still easy to find ones selling for $15 or less. You can also buy a smartphone for less than $50.
The cheapest laptops are only slightly cheaper now compared to back then (which seems to disprove the idea that Moore's law is the reason) and cars haven't changed in price at all since then so what the heck happened between 2000-2005 and now that made mobile phones get so damn cheap?
Smaller and more powerful computer chips and more efficient production processes that come with mass production. Not that hard to figure out Laptops are just overpriced today for whatever reason. Back in 2012 when I bought my laptop it was cheaper than a similar laptop would cost today. In 2 years I would expect a laptop of similar capabilities to be half the price I paid for it back then. This is not the case. I would rather ask why are laptops so expensive. probably because the economy of scale has shrunk. Now it's become a niche instead of mainline - people buying tablets for $600 instead. |
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Anyone know what is the government's justification for not invading north korea seeing as north korea breach humans rights ?
When a country is not a threat to another one, nobody gives a shit (besides the people who generally care about humans of course). Do we think if north korea had a bunch of oil or some other resource the government would all of a sudden start to find threat potential from north korea? If NK had a bunch of oil China would have invaded it long ago like they did all the other surrounding territory. China has invaded it's neighbors in every direction in the last 100 years. US can't take out NK if there is no NK to begin with. If NK was next to Russia, Russia would pull a Ukraine... |
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The sad part is you read my post without looking at what I replied to. Does the word context mean anything to you? Please look at the quote to which I responded to. That's the one judging people by how eloquent they are.
Did you take any meaning from my post. Look I don't care if they have to use sign language or grunt like apes if they're capable of thinking like Stephen Hawkings. Unfortunately, the leaders we have had as of late make great apes look more intelligent.
Oh, I read his post as well as yours, and I didn't mean to single you out in that; sorry if that was the impression it left. My point is: wouldn't it be more productive to tell him just that (how eloquent they are is irrelevant), instead of going on a meaningless tangent that does nothing to help the situation, and then further wasting your time by offering to search for the source of the "Obama says 'uh' about 31x more often as Bill Clinton"?  In my medical training we rely on evidence based medicine. You can't spew out an argument without supporting data. If I told him flat out usually people object as it being subjective. So I tried to make it more objective showing the video and noting Clinton was much better. What's silly is people who are so in love with Obama they thing he's a good speaker/orator. JFK was damn good - that line "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" is notable. Reagan had his city on a hill. Clinton, despite all the trouble he got into, could charm the pants off most men and women. Bush was able to win over quite a few D's in Texas with his charm. Obama, well other than watching Game of Thrones and listening to Beyonce like 1/2 of America I can't see him as being real. Look at he mustard he ordered on AFO in the video - all my African American friends eat plain old Frenches, not the uppity Grey Poupon. So whoever makes those Hope & Change posters must be doing a damn good job  |
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While I wouldn't mind banging a Russian broad, there's just no way I'd ever be able to converse with her. Looking at those words and letters just makes my head spin. Anyways, hope they make good use of those Birch trees.
 Hey, it's not that difficult. Half of the letters are roughly the same with the same reading and order as in Latin. You can learn all 33 letters in a week. And Russian is WYSIWYG, so once you know the letters you can read - (almost) no mucking about with exceptions as in English or French, which mainly consist of exceptions. Then learn a few words and string them together - Russian is more liberal when it comes to sentence building, with the order of the words giving slightly different flavours to the sentence meaning. You can equally well say: I go home Home I go Go I home That conclude your first lesson of Russian language As I told a lot of people who are scared about the fact that the world might speak chinese... With 150 000 Europeans learning chinese every year but with 10 million chinese learning English.. which language will we talk? What would be easier? Mister copy paste links 247crypto to start learning English or the rest of the board ? Chinese-English or mix of Chinese and Indian-English? The language that will rule the world will be Chindian. Chinese-Indian. Sooner or later, we're going to hump you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfsVCqBYbgY |
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US government should be loved by their citizen.
Free education, cheap housing and social safety net compare to the rest of the world.
Who gave you the idea that our education is free. I have to pay 2% of my home's value every year in property tax. When I built the home I had to pay almost 1/3 of my year's income to pay for school permits. Sales tax is 1/10 of my purchasing power and more than 1/2 of that goes to schools. And then my income tax is also funneled to schools. My business license, my medical license, recycling fees - all go into the state's general fund which more than 1/2 goes to schools. hahha, free. Just like giving blood is free too  Cheap housing? Um, adobe hut in Vietnam or Mexico is way more affordable than any slum house in the poverty belt of the US. Safety net - yeah well that's used to buy votes rather than help people. I agree it should be there. I don't think it should be a lifestyle which many people are making it into now. |
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Nobody should have the moral authority to kidnap someone at gunpoint and throw them in a cage.
Oh I don't know about that. I indirectly know several people who I feel comfortable having the gov do this to. Are referring to people who have this done without due process? If a man is raping a 6 month old baby, yeah I got no problems with the gov throwing him in jail. If a man rapes a 6 month old baby (or initiates force against someone) anyone is morally justified in self defense or making things right with the victim. An entity should not have moral authority just because they are "the government". I'm having a little trouble understanding your response, but are you telling me that the parents of a raped baby have the right to "make thing right" for their child? Being a father, I would love to take the rapist out to my garage and use my medical knowledge to put him through 500 hours of torture, but that doesn't seem very democratic. Seems kind of vigilante. In my country, the US, assuming things worked correctly, the people we elect make laws which the general society agrees on. Murder is bad. Rape is bad. Stealing is bad. So on. We give consent to the government to punish criminals. Governments don't have the right per se, it is given to them by the people. If the people change their mind, for example on smoking marijuana, we change the laws so cops don't arrest us now for that offense. But yes an out of control government thinks it can do whatever it wants. In some countries in this world the governments can't be reasoned with by their citizens because 1 tank kills 10000 people. |
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To be fair, the United States should be very tolerant of countries which send aircraft into other countries to shoot at people.
But the U.S. is not really much into fairness, justice, or liberty.
The U.S. is dumb thug muscle for global banksters.
Did the US kill your family or something? I sense much hate in you. Fear, anger, hate, darkside..... The US killed many innocent people. I don't see any reason how a person could not hate the US from the bottom of his/her heart. I won't argue that the US government hasn't killed many people. Innocents...well until drones can fire a laser from 30 miles away with 1cm accuracy there is a risk of casualties. If the US was not so worried about casualties and intercepted Osama in 1998 perhaps 9/11 would not have occurred. Pretty much every nation/civilization since the beginning of time has killed others. Short of Ghandi and some recent Bhuddist/Taoist leaders, what leaders haven't ordered others to their death? Read my other posts you'll see I'm not happy with the US government or the clowns who occupy those seats, but to single out a country which pretty much has to play daddy to 50 other countries around the world, well it gets tiring getting bashed. Perhaps the US should have conceded Pearl Harbor to Japan and ignored Hitler's/Mussolini's Europe and spent the last 60 years on inner reflection? |
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What Bitcoin is illegal in Russia...guess you're going to have to arrest me officers. I think I have a USB drive somewhere here in my pocket...
Seriously though, those heels. Really? Maybe they throw them at criminals and use them like throwing stars.
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Alternatively, install the drivers on another PC if you have access and try mining on that as host. If that works you can rule out the miners and chalk it up to a driver or port issue.
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Damn dude, you're living up to your Avatar pic of Chevy Chase as the doctor.
1/4 of you Neptunes were pasted incorrectly? Either that or they did not tolerate shipping well.
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You just need to make a .BAT file and save it in the same directory as the BFGMiner or CGMiner program. A .BAT file is the same as a text (.TXT) file except the file will end in .BAT like confused.BAT hehe.
Then in the .bat file type this:
bfgminer -o stratum.btcguild.com:3333 -u MYUSERNAME -p MYPASSWORD -o mint.bitminter.com:3333 -u MYUSERNAME -p MYPASSWORD --failover-only
Then just change the MYUSERNAME and MYPASSWORD to whatever you use.
Obviously in the example above I mine at BTCGuild and if they go down it jumps to Bitminter for backup. You can switch it to whatever pools you want, I just used those 2 for example. The pools should have easy descriptions of what address and port number (the thing that says :3333) to use.
save the file using the File-->Save as and give it a name like Mine.BAT
Double click it and you should be mining.
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You can go P2P or join on of those solo pools.
Honestly, you're better off just sticking to BTCGuid and then go gamble the coins on Primedice or something - probably would be more fun.
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If you mined non-stop for 1 month with free electricity you would earn 0.43 cents with the most profitable coin - that's less than 1/2 a cent. More likely is your laptop will die from fan failure or damaged mainboard somewhere around 3 weeks.
For the sake of a decently working laptop, don't do it.
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Hell, I threw 0.15 into CEX out of curiosity, left it in there for a few months, sold it and ended up with 0.23. As a purely mining investment, CEX is awful, but due to the pretty consistent prices, buying, mining for a while and making more than the withdrawl fee will almost certainly net you a profit.
wow, rare example for someone make profit only from mining how long you mining there? and how much GHS prices when you bought and sold? The prices did change a bit, from about 0.0068 to 0.0071 over the course of three-four months. It's profitable so long as you sell your ghs after a while and the price remains constant (even better if it goes up, obviously) As bbeesly said, it's not the best investment, but it's certainly better than leaving them in your wallet. Gives you an interest of sorts If you are likely to lose money because the price is likely to go down more than what you will get in interests it is not a good investment and your bitcoins are better of in your wallet! Playing casino can give you a return in the short run but you are mathematically a loser when you play You can't rationalize with people who don't want to look at the underlying fundamentals. If you tell somebody that standing on a moving car is dangerous and they do it and they don't die - they'll say it's not dangerous. Just move along. The trend-line and the math has been posted to death in many threads. |
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Neptunes are shipping. KNC met its Q2 date for the Neptune.
KNC are apparently shipping close to a Petahash a day (300 units a day at 3,300 Gigahash each).
I am not aware of a 1,500 Gigahash version of the Neptune.
20 business day a month (assuming no weekend shipping and stock for 20 days) and that alone drives up the difficulty 15% for July  It's a race to see what AM3 chips and Bitmain S3 will do. |
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Is there any software/site where you can enter two dates in the past + hashrate, and get the result how many BTC was mined in the period between these two dates?
yes but not exactly . You can go to bitcoin wisdom calculator and play around with settings. Lets say you want Jan 1 to March 1 2014 . An antminer s-1 set at 200gh. you do this. go to this link. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultydetermine the diff on jan 1 2014. it was 1,180,923,000 for 1 day jan 1 1 day 200gh earned .08517 x 1 = .08517 it was 1,418,481,000 for 11 days jan 2 to jan 12 1 day 200gh earned .07091 x 11 = .78001 it was 1,789,546,951 for 11 days jan 13 to jan 23 1 day 200gh earned .05621 x 11 = .61831 it was 2,193,847,870 for 12 days jan 24 to feb 4 1 day 200gh earned .04586 x 12 = .55032 it was 2,621,404,453 for 12 days feb 5 to feb 16 1 day 200gh earned .03837 x 12 = .46044 it was 3,129,573, 175 for 11 days feb 16 to feb 28 1 day 200gh earned .03214 x 11 = .35354 TOTAL------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2.84779 btc for jan 1 to mar 1 not including mar 1 A shit load of math for someone that wants to get an idea of what the gear earned I've got this using calculator, from Jan 1st to Feb 28th: 2.8546 BTC It differs with your calculation on 2nd decimal, maybe a rounding error. Those figures don't take into account variance of the pool's luck. If the pool had horrible luck during a certain time it would have made 90% of earnings and if it was lucky it could have made 110% of earnings. So the number it shows is expected earnings. The reality is any downtime, DDoS or pool luck variances would have altered true earnings. It's not a big deal unless a pool had really good or really bad luck the first 1 or 2 difficulties that you mine since that's when most of your coin is generated. |
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