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1461  Other / Meta / Re: Dank's final testimony on: December 01, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
The chance of someone encountering harmful side-effects when taking anti-depressants is much greater then "small"

If we redefine "harmful" as "undesirable", then fair point.

The side effects will also sometimes change over time, sometimes for the worse and sometimes for the better. Also a doctor "supervising" a patient taking anti-depressants is not able to closely watch the patient close enough to prevent a potential suicide, it does not take very long to attempt to commit as such.  

... which makes a good support structure, open lines of communication, and talk therapy imperative during early stages of treatment.

To say "it does not take very long to attempt to commit suicide" is, again, dangerously irresponsible, speaking nothing to the potential positive benefits of therapy.

You might as well be saying "that chances of getting hit by a car are much greater if you leave your house" - completely overlooking the necessity to make a journey to begin with.

These drugs do mess with your brain's chemistry and are not placebos, but it is really hard to say what the effect will be prior to a patient actually taking the drug

Enter the Genomind product which aims to resolve your concerns moving forward. We're getting better at this science stuff.
1462  Other / Meta / Re: Dank's final testimony on: December 01, 2014, 07:02:39 AM
It's bad advice because the small chance of encountering negative side-effects are outweighed by the potential benefits in serious medical cases. Especially when prescribed under supervision of a doctor.

Furthermore, what you said is NOT THE TRUTH. They are most certainly not "nothing but placebos for depression". Maybe a certain drug class (SSRI's for example) would have no pharmacological effect on a patient and help them feel better by placebo effect alone, but another drug class (say SNRI's) might genuinely work to pharmacologically positively affect a patient.

Your perspective smacks of Jenny McCarthy uneducated "anti-vax" nonsense, and is not rooted in science or our current (limited) understanding of brain chemistry.

And speaking to an increase in depression or ideations of suicide, I suspect you might be referring to cases where anti depressants are contraindicated for use in young adults due to those negative side-effects being two to three times more likely to occur.

they're now known to be pretty much nothing but placebos for depression

... speaking of bad and very dangerous advice ...

Patients respond differently to different medications. You're always supposed to be getting onto meds under a doctors supervision.

How is it bad and dangerous advice? What I stated is the truth. I think most people will agree that taking something that can actually cause suicidal behaviour when you're depressed is a pretty bad idea. And what do doctors know in this regard? You go to a doctor tell them you feel a bit sad and 9/10 without hesitation they'll throw a load of pills at you. I think blindly taking anything they give you is taking bad advice. Quiz them in depth about whatever medications they give you and they'll usually be unable to tell you anything other than what's written on the box or the little sheet of paper they get from the pharma companies telling them what and when not to give them.
1463  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement - ASIC mining processor by Butterfly Labs on: December 01, 2014, 02:16:23 AM
LOL

Sounds like Xian is. Not sure why he sent me that bag of dicks, he must be a fan of them.

Nostalgia time. I took this picture. It seemed kind of funny at the time, but now it's just one of those Josh things....like the foam pitchforks. I don't know if anyone has noticed, but there's a boxcuttter there with a note that says "For Dave", meaning Dave "The Knife" McClain. Just a somewhat hidden message there.
So that's not a photoshop ? (when I first saw the photo, I thought it was PS'd for some-odd reason) Someone actually sent him some Penis Candy ?

That's hysterical.

Nope. He bought it because you or someone else....or the entire internet, technically, told him to eat a bag of dicks.
1464  Other / Meta / Re: Dank's final testimony on: December 01, 2014, 01:48:36 AM
they're now known to be pretty much nothing but placebos for depression

... speaking of bad and very dangerous advice ...

Patients respond differently to different medications. You're always supposed to be getting onto meds under a doctors supervision.

There is some excellent emerging work with genotyping done by http://www.genomind.com/faqs/ - Their Genecept Assay product is one of the first products that allows doctors to tailor treatments based on how well a patients physiology may or may not interact with different classes of drugs.
1465  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement - ASIC mining processor by Butterfly Labs on: November 30, 2014, 12:58:25 AM
Sounds like Xian is. Not sure why he sent me that bag of dicks, he must be a fan of them.

You are lying, Josh [1]. As is typical. Please provide proof I sent you a bag of dicks. You want to know why you won't be able to provide proof ? It's because it never happened.

Sending you something in meatspace would be improper and probably constitute bona fide harassment; I'd like to think I'm smarter than that, and can say with a straight face I will NEVER, EVER send you ANYTHING on principle in meatspace, nor have I ever.

Keep on dreaming your fevered dream, though.

[1] http://ia902308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.42.7.pdf
http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.42.19.pdf
http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.42.20.pdf
1466  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement - ASIC mining processor by Butterfly Labs on: November 29, 2014, 05:49:51 PM
You, as usual.
But, but, your own statements made at your own deposition prove that we aren't lying.

How is it that we are lying again, Josh ? We are using your own words to prove that you have to been the one lying all along.

One could demonstrably make reasoned arguments that you lied (misspoke ?) during your deposition under oath.

When asked how we have lied, you resort to base attacks and ad homonyms in an effort to deflect and avoid answering pointed queries.

Can you please help us work through this apparent logical disconnect so that we can better understand your perspective ?

http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.42.19.pdf
http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.42.20.pdf


#blahletteragenciesblahblah
1467  Bitcoin / Hardware / C1 Undervolting on: November 29, 2014, 08:19:39 AM
 Is it relatively straightforward to undervolt a C1 to ~550W ? If so, what sort of hash rate could we expect at that wattage ? Thinking of picking up a couple fo' shiggles and tinkering purposes.
1468  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ED TRICE, Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking Inc. on: November 29, 2014, 05:44:15 AM
I'm not seeing the connection to Ed Trice ?

Was wondering what ever happened to that dude.
1469  Other / Off-topic / Re: Happy Thanksgiving! on: November 28, 2014, 03:16:40 AM
let me know if you can still type straight when you get to 2006 XD

I can't feel my legs.
1470  Other / Off-topic / Re: Post your Total time logged into Bitcointalk on: November 28, 2014, 02:59:43 AM
Total time logged in: 94 days, 19 hours and 45 minutes.  Undecided
1471  Other / Off-topic / Re: Happy Thanksgiving! on: November 28, 2014, 12:41:30 AM


Ugh... going to be an epic hangover tomorrow... having too much fun with some great friends.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone !

EDIT: God help us. 2004 enters the battle.



EDIT: Switching gears. Fuck.

1472  Other / Archival / Re: Last Drink You drank. (daily thread) on: November 27, 2014, 05:05:38 AM
Corona Extra.
1473  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: November 25, 2014, 06:22:49 PM
What I'm mainly talking about is that he threatened Garr by refusing to deliver the equipment he paid for because Garr was complaining and talking shit about BFL. Garr was essentially beaten into submission because he had a large order for a group of people and couldn't afford to have his delivery canceled. Josh was using his order as leverage to control Garrs behavior by threatening to cancel or delay it. I'm pretty sure the court would agree that speaks to Josh's character.

I remember that playing out here on the forums Sad It was shameful watching Josh humiliate and manipulate Garr over his order.

Now, it's "rich" watching Josh and crew play the victim card after being the victimizers for so long.

Karma is a real bitch.
1474  Other / Meta / Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? on: November 20, 2014, 03:45:31 PM
Because swinging your dick at another dick gets positive results.
I would hope http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.docket.html is positive results, considering what has come to light.
1475  Other / Meta / Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? on: November 20, 2014, 08:22:00 AM
FWIW, for some strange reason, I think Con is the only dude I trust on here.

I can't explain why.
1476  Other / Meta / Re: How to discuss hardware manufacturers was Re: BFL fucked us over again on: November 19, 2014, 04:03:44 PM
What "reason" did theymos give you?
Trolling - 45 days
1477  Other / Meta / Re: How to discuss hardware manufacturers was Re: BFL fucked us over again on: November 18, 2014, 02:11:19 PM
While I have questioned the forums rules in the past I have come to the conclusion that the mods/admins have acted in a proper manner whether you like it or not. Try to look at everything from another angle than yours.
Try posting a link to Theymos' dox located at blockchain.info and see how quickly your opinion changes.
Yep. Seriously, RoadStress, go post theymos' dox (google and you'll find it) and see what happens.
What will happen? I thought the policy was not to remove dox? If the info is out there or on google what would it matter anyhow?
If it's an indication, I was banned for 45 days for doing so.

Fact: Joshua "Inaba" / "Nitrowolf" Zerlan of Butterfly Labs made it part of his career to dox and intimidate vocal people in the community that spoke out against them.

Fact: Josh Zerlan of Butterfly Labs paid Michael "Theymos" Marquardt significant advertising funds over the course of perpetuating their fraud[1].

Fact: Michael Marquardt did nothing to remove the dox that Joshua Zerlan posted despite protestations of his victims.

Fact: Michael Marquardt bans people that post his dox, and removes the offending posts while allowing Butterfly Labs' intimidation dox to remain.

Ergo, Michael Marquardt is a profiteering hypocrite who materially benefitted from Butterfly Labs and others that defrauded this community, while taking their advertising monies, looking the other way, and allows them to continue their bad behavior while he bans others for the same bad behavior.

Finally, I need to again call attention to the fact Michael Marquardt is paying out, by his own admission, an absolutely asinine sum of $100,000[2] per month for development of new forums software.

-Christian "Xian" / "Xian01" Antkow

[1]: http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.docket.html
[2]: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2m6zmi/mark_karpeles_attorneys_are_legally_laundering/cm1tjmk
1478  Other / Meta / How to discuss hardware manufacturers was Re: BFL fucked us over again on: November 18, 2014, 01:33:37 AM
While I have questioned the forums rules in the past I have come to the conclusion that the mods/admins have acted in a proper manner whether you like it or not. Try to look at everything from another angle than yours.
Try posting a link to Theymos' dox located at blockchain.info and see how quickly your opinion changes.
1479  Other / Meta / Re: How often does theymos go through the account recovery PMs? on: November 16, 2014, 08:17:26 PM
It has been said that theymos gives this a low priority and will only complete a few of such requests per month.
So what does Theymos do around here other than collect BTC for forums advertising, and pay out $100k a month for development of new forums software ?

Perhaps that responsibility could be delegated to someone who cares enough about being a good steward of this community.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2m6zmi/mark_karpeles_attorneys_are_legally_laundering/cm1tjmk
1480  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: November 15, 2014, 10:40:49 PM
It was like BFL/Josh was GlaDOS from portal, constantly shouting insults at customers as they navigate some physics defying maze that has no true purpose, except to pass the time while we all wait for the cake to be ready.
Again, in retrospect, I apologize for losing my cool like I did. Please believe me when I say it really took a lot of bullshit to get me that riled up.

While I'm not proud of it, I do take some small measure of comfort knowing that my rage was justified, given how things turned out, and the evidence that has come to light since then.

http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.docket.html
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