And by doing so (evading taxes) they turn it into a self-fulfilling prophecy: no tax income, ineffective state mechanisms, inequality, etc.
Maybe I'm generalizing too much over "all Greek people I've talked to", but it seems to be a recurrent theme: the fatalism.

I am with you. I think they did a good job.

Still I wonder, when people will realize, that there is no right or wrong. Most things are right at the right time.

A Keynesian government seems just right to increase overall living standards in emerging countries.

In the western world the main problem is not raising living standards, but over-consumption of scarce ressources.

going long, tight stop. market feels squeezy. lol

With no bears around I'm starting to believe that Bitcoin is a viable global payment system with long term price upswings.

.... problem solved.

Devs PLEASE... do something good for DOGE and lets stimulate this Mofo like it should have been long ago. 0 Block reward and it spins on fees!

Then lets get back to helping people and making the world a Better / easier place with crypto as a whole using DOGE as the race car!

Upon coming back from the far foreign lands, from a trip that felt like it lasted for years, our royal carriage again hits the familiar cobbled streets.

Lo and behold! It is as if the time has not progressed at all here    The words of Zenon, of our father the Duke, the very ancient writings, every letter of wisdom, come to our mind as we behold the sun. Then, slowly, the shadows start moving again.

We have to investigate the matter..

This must be related to the coming changes in 1600, that year when the time will readjust itself. We are still puzzled. Perhaps the Satoshi Roundtable had such a profound energy that time did not pass anywhere else??! Or maybe just here. Anyway, we hope it is over now.

Multiple years shall not pass at once, the game continues from where it is.

Sigh... You really should freshen up on your history. We have absolutely no obligation to remember anything. You should read up on the cause of the rise of the nsdap before the second world war and the founding of the third reich. One of the causes was the issue of reparations for the first WW. The amount was huge (like mentioned before). Also there was no graciousness involved at all after WW2, there was simply no way a destroyed and divided country like Germany with nearly no industry left could have handled that amount of debt - Instead we paid the debt over time - and we still pay.
Germany paid off all the debts from WW1 in 2010 - 90 years after the war. For WW2: We still pay more than 500 Million € per year "Wiedergutmachung des Bundes" - google it. And those are not even the reparations, that is only for the victims (direct and indirect ones).

I told you I did not want to go into detail over WW2 because it was complicated, did you read that? Obviously not, so I will make it short and sweet: GDR paid ~200B € until 1953, West Germany paid ~4B€. The USSR dismantled nearly all of East Germanys infrastructure after the war and shipped it back to Russia. More than 3 Million Germans were used for forced Labour. The Allies confiscated significant values of German patents, copyrights and trademarks. Some of the German territory was annexed and incorporated into Poland.  

You see, we Germans don't bash someone for nothing, some of you Greeks cry out because of your governments austerity policy - we Germans live under it for the better part of 15 years. Massive social reforms and privatisation - do you think we liked it? No, we did not. Was it necessary? Indeed it was.
Your problem is, again, not the debt to the EU - you don't even have to pay back anything until 2019 iirc, and the interest is very low. Your problems are the private debts. And the lack of ability of your past Government to execute reforms and to collect taxes from the rich Greeks, which had free reign for so long that it's nearly impossible now to find the hidden banking accounts.

Chiming in on the Greek situation.

One of the interesting things I have learned over the last few days has been how the bailout money was actually used.

Just like in 2008, the bailouts were designed to prevent a broader financial panic involving the banks. Of the 230 billion euros that Greece received, only 11% actually stayed in Greece to finance government activity. The rest was used to pay back old bondholders (mainly Greek and European Banks) and make interest payments.

Instead of defaulting 5 years ago, the Greeks were strong-armed into a bailout designed to prevent panic. Then the crisis spread to other countries, and the EU has muddled through from one crisis to the next for 5 years. After losing 25% of GDP, a chronic unemployment rate above 26% and with debt at 170 debt/GDP ratios, the Greeks are screwed and, more importantly, they have nothing to lose. They either default and possibly leave the Euro, or they stick with the horrible depression they have been in for 5yrs.

The difference is that if they default today, German and Italian banks will not take a hit, BUT if they default (and especially if they leave the Euro), the financial and political ramifications are impossible to predict. It could be the EU's Lehman moment.

I am surprised that the Germans are letting this get so unpleasant. The amount the Greeks want is nothing compared to the strategic importance of Greece as a NATO ally. They must be seriously worried about the signal they would send to Spain and Italy if they agree to let Greece write off some debt. The political environment in Europe is turning against Germany - the real wild-card in this situation are Austerity-weary voters.

Source for the bailout stats (Martin Wolf of the FT)- http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/44c56806-a556-11e4-ad35-00144feab7de.html#axzz3RNvpcnSg

It's understandable that you are searching for arguments to get Germany to cut some of the debts, but the warcrime reparations payment is laughable at best. Do you even know how much Germany paid after WW1? 67,7 Billion Goldmark (~225B € with todays prices). I won't start with WW2 because it's a lot more difficult, but trust me that the damages paid were some orders of magnitude higher if calculated with current prices.

Just because Greece is nearly bancrupt does not mean you can just pull some 70 year old reparations out of your pockets in order to get by. The sad thing is, you are bancrupt even with all the help you got, Ireland etc. got the same help and are stabilized, but your country has just so much debt in the private sector - even with a cut in eu debt - you still won't be able to pay back the private creditors.

Oh spare me. Of all of you discussing it, I am confident you are the one who would give the least fucks about who suffers or how much as long as you think it will help you make a few extra bucks.

I 100% agree.  It's not in the EU's best interest or Greece's best interest to leave the EU.  In the end though, I think it's at least possible, many years down the road, as negotiations fail and their economy fails for them to "voluntarily" leave the EU...

Same here. Fun, isn't it?

 

Since many of his posts were probably deleted for the page 10,000 deletes (maybe off on holidays?) he likely averages 20 posts per day, which is 10 war dollars per day.

Not a bad racket, it requires absolutely no mental ability whatsoever from the looks of it so hey...free money.

Your join date is 2011.
You must have made a lot of money out of BTC.

Bet this place was better without the trolls.

trolltards gonna troll