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Moved Tarmi off the list following my 3 out of 3 constructive posts. If you still want him inside, please consider adding him by yourselves.
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Greece owed the European Central Bank a few million euros last week. They defaulted on that payment. That's what the whole "extensions" were about last week. Since they did not make that payment the ECB cut off further funds which was the reason for the bank closures.
I am not sure of what the consequences of defaulting on the IMF would be, there have only been 3 other countries in history that have defaulted (Argentina, Jamaica and Equador).
They owe the ECB 3.5 billion euros in July.
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The idea of getting informed by one (random) channel which (most possibly) is owned by some Mega company owned by some pervert Croesus is the proper thing to do in order to get devastating ph33r and make the wrong assumptions. Not to mention the worse scenario, to do the wrong deeds... Greece is just a piece of the puzzle, EU is the elephant in the room. Expect the unexpected. That's the way politics work. Tick Tock, Tick Tock... (Hint: IMF)  |
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Even if Greece gets the bailout...they are just getting a loan so they can make a payment on their previous loan. And this new loan will come with more payments and interest, which will require another bailout in a year or so to pay their loan payment and on and on...
collapse now or collapse later, either one...Bitcoin can wait
This is not negotiable I'm afraid. Greece don't have and won't pay the IMF today. You can take this for granted. I'm pretty sure though, that (as the previous time) the IMF will pull another rabbit off their hat and get paid their loan by themselves... Nuff said. Yea right you think the IMF doesn't have their own form of investment insurance? ... BTW... what's the price bounce today? 260? 261.5? Already? Of course they have. Look how did they get paid the last time. You will get it...  |
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Even if Greece gets the bailout...they are just getting a loan so they can make a payment on their previous loan. And this new loan will come with more payments and interest, which will require another bailout in a year or so to pay their loan payment and on and on...
collapse now or collapse later, either one...Bitcoin can wait
This is not negotiable I'm afraid. Greece don't have and won't pay the IMF today. You can take this for granted. I'm pretty sure though, that (as the previous time) the IMF will pull another rabbit off their hat and get paid their loan by themselves... Nuff said. |
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Meanwhile in Greece...  That's an amazing photograph. and to stay on topic... there's a pretty decent wall at 258 on bitfinex, but the price keeps cranking up slowly. Yeah, only this was during 2011's protests with the EU sockpuppet coalition government. It's really funny how people trolls want to present things that ARE NOT true. PS: from last nights protest about Greece voting NO to EU's proposed austerity measures (and relative link to prove it)   http://tvxs.gr/news/ellada/megali-diadilosi-sto-syntagma-yper-toy-oxiGood morning Gentlemen. May the troll be with you! For me and my fellow citizens in Greece, it will be the same. When you're already wet, you don't really care if it's gonna rain...  |
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No Fees This Week When Buying Bitcoin with Euros
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You quoting my posts doesn't make me feel so bad. Let's play this game: why are the stupid greeks standing in line to take their euros and not bitcoin?
who cares about greek people? let their government worry about what they want. it's the market thing.
careful what you wish for you greek! it's not like you are starting the world revolution rather being kicked out from the club.
yes, because you are the smartass type of greek: the one who bought bitcoin in 500 + $ range and now praying for a total financial collapse of his country.
That's 4 out of 3 for my ignore list Tarmi. I'm very sorry for you. I'll miss your intelligent posts. Bye bye. |
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And you would know this how exactly? Please enlighten my ignorance.
Because he's from the internet, dude. They know everything there. Riiiiight... how did I miss that?  |
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On the contrary derives a person who definitely needs mental help, not to mention special care.
So, there's nothing intelligent to see here, not to mention that judging one of these abominative posts as "intelligent" truly questions one's intelligence as well. You know; just saying.
you are greek. ofc that you will question other's intelligence and talk about special care while your country is falling apart. Pretty much agree... It was wrong judging someone's intelligence when mine is not adequate enough for such a task. Me being a Greek solidifies your argument.  yes, because you are the smartass type of greek: the one who bought bitcoin in 500 + $ range and now praying for a total financial collapse of his country. And you would know this how exactly? Please enlighten my ignorance. |
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you greek? plz tell me the people there will send the banksters back to their cave! it may be hard at first but im sure if done right, you would benefit from it and will be off for better times when the rest of this damned union collapses!
Let's hope so. I will surely vote for it. |
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On the contrary derives a person who definitely needs mental help, not to mention special care.
So, there's nothing intelligent to see here, not to mention that judging one of these abominative posts as "intelligent" truly questions one's intelligence as well. You know; just saying.
you are greek. ofc that you will question other's intelligence and talk about special care while your country is falling apart. Pretty much agree... It was wrong judging someone's intelligence when mine is not adequate enough for such a task. Me being a Greek solidifies your argument. |
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I love him. His remarks and jokes are intelligent.
 Intelligent people don't create a gazillion accounts just to post rubbish. If they're truly intelligent they have a legit account and try to put their ideas to test with other people. They don't insult each other, they're not provocative; and their cause (whatever this might be) is always backed up by solid arguments. Nothing of the above fulfills NLC accounts. On the contrary derives a person who definitely needs mental help, not to mention special care. So, there's nothing intelligent to see here, not to mention that judging one of these abominative posts as "intelligent" truly questions one's intelligence as well. You know; just saying. |
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I'm afraid, empowering has it right. ANY country's exit from the Eurozone means the chain has broken. EUR is not backed by anything more than the "agreement" of the members of the Eurozone that THIS will be their currency. Unfortunately, most people don't see this. Everybody sees a country that the Mass Media has been blaming for being "lazy", "thieves", "crooks" in order to cover the most undeniable truth since the beginning of the crisis.
The Greek Debt wasn't the PEOPLE'S debt! It was the BANK'S debt. With a political decision (after mr Papandreou stepped down, mr Papadimos was the PM that the troika has APPOINTED as the country's ruler) they transferred it to toxic bonds that shortly after they were bought from the country's reserves. Social security, hospitals, public companies, etc. They took fresh money and left us with toxic bonds! AND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING!
It's a moral issue for ANY European to understand that this is not a war between Germany or France with Greece. It's the moment in time for EVERYONE to understand who the real enemy is. Who the thieves are! Who brought a country to its knees. IT WAS THE BANKSTERS!
Oh, I've mentioned it before, but let me repeat it once more: If your neighbour's house is on fire, better worry for it comes for your house too.
Sadly most people fail to see this.  |
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I'm afraid, empowering has it right. ANY country's exit from the Eurozone means the chain has broken. EUR is not backed by anything more than the "agreement" of the members of the Eurozone that THIS will be their currency. Unfortunately, most people don't see this. Everybody sees a country that the Mass Media has been blaming for being "lazy", "thieves", "crooks" in order to cover the most undeniable truth since the beginning of the crisis.
The Greek Debt wasn't the PEOPLE'S debt! It was the BANK'S debt. With a political decision (after mr Papandreou stepped down, mr Papadimos was the PM that the troika has APPOINTED as the country's ruler) they transferred it to toxic bonds that shortly after they were bought from the country's reserves. Social security, hospitals, public companies, etc. They took fresh money and left us with toxic bonds! AND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING!
It's a moral issue for ANY European to understand that this is not a war between Germany or France with Greece. It's the moment in time for EVERYONE to understand who the real enemy is. Who the thieves are! Who brought a country to its knees. IT WAS THE BANKSTERS!
Oh, I've mentioned it before, but let me repeat it once more: If your neighbour's house is on fire, better worry for it comes for your house too.
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thanks GREXIT
Yeah, could be the reason to celebrate for the years to come. The collapse of the system was inevitable, the trigger was missing... |
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Regardless of the position and/or influence of a certain individual in the price of any altcoin, there are fundamentals that give extortionate power to XMR. Features that if they will ever be incorporated into BTC then we will have to wonder if we need XMR in the first place, but since there's nothing that points to this direction, I think that XMR is here to stay.
The best thing to do is to pick a price tag that you feel comfortable to accumulate. Then, after your position is reached, just HODL and wait. I personally have some play money on XMR. If it works ok, I will be probably sell within the next pump and buy on the next dip. If we keep going like this I will probably just keep my position for a year or so.
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according to bbc the ecb really stops giving fiat to the greece
mayhem
Monday morning in Japan in 12hrs... tick tock - tick tock... How are you doing in all of this Macsga? Are people uneasy where you live? Macsga I hope all is well. I return to Greece in July. Everything is fine. Greece has been wonderful and will be wonderful with or without Euro. Gimme a call when you're here! |
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Good morning. Please update. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-29:pissa
koshachey
Cobalicious
yudayed
xPeyVW
podpolnik
Kot.Begemot
Colostomatic
tarmi
AmberCam
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