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961  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 15, 2015, 07:11:25 AM
If I was those people I'd buy BTC from these little markets (Coinbase, Bitstamp & others) then sell for a 2x profit on OTCmarkets.

The catch is that you must give the bitcoins to Grayscale, they will give you fresh BIT shares, and you must keep them for 1 year before you can sell them on the OTCQX market.  Good luck...

If this is true, then it explains a lot, regarding the difference from the exchanges. Do you have any source about this info? I constantly kept scratching my head why this is happening...
962  Other / Meta / Re: "THE LIST" on: May 13, 2015, 09:36:56 PM
Sockpuppet's galore last night. I think I got them all. Please update your lists.

Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-14:
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Shameless!
AWAKE!!
Cloven
Salamanderer
Hpzew
slowerloris

Cheers.
963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 13, 2015, 06:10:19 AM
I decided that it was time for me to get some more and bought the dip of 0.0019 with my play money. I could certainly buy some more but decided to wait and see how the pressure is forming around here. In any case I foresee this area is the new bottom...
964  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 13, 2015, 06:01:30 AM
Uh-Oh... Grin




Seems like we have a worldwide bond sell-off... This could be interesting Grin

Good morning Bitcoinland!
965  Other / Meta / Re: "THE LIST" on: May 12, 2015, 12:54:45 PM
last updated list for alphabetical order
<updated list>

Thanks for this, updated the 2nd post.
966  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2015, 03:19:51 PM
This is driving me insane. Why is every moon launch of the last few days being postponed...?

Because its just a long bulltrap before the final long squeeze and the real reversal.
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/6S9Si6F7-BTCUSD-STILL-REMAINS-IN-OVERALL-BEARISH-CYCLE-UPDATE/

When i looked at his other predictions few months old, one saying come to my mind - "Even a broken clock is right twice a day"

You didn't have to be TA genius to see the 2013 bubble was not healthy and there will be big correction (i have to admit though, i didn't think it will be so long correction)

These TA "Experts" are trying to use TA strategies from stocks and forex with many times bigger markets - In Bitcoin, Roger Ver or other ancient bitcoin whale can send the price of 1 BTC to 1 USD in few minutes...Also on the other hand some huge investment fund can decide to invest in BTC and the price will sky rocket TA or no TA...So yeah, the TA has also some effect i guess, but the fundamentals and manipulation in this particular market are much stronger...

Once i saw one nice chart what i actually also believed in...i will find it and post it...

EDIT: https://www.tradingview.com/i/8ss69KFu/[/img]]https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/8ss69KFu-Perfect-Bubble-in-the-making/
This is actually one of few prediction charts i really believed from almost day 1 i saw it

No TA can ever be 100% accurate (especially TAs that have to do with BTC) because there's absolutely no guarantee that the very next second the market(s) will be using the same pattern for their movements (ie: some whale will NOT try to market sell or market buy). Whether you're aware to control such a position or (in most of our cases here) know the information about that move, you're only drawing lines on paper (or on a screen in front of you).

Short term TA might work (because big moves happen rarely). Long term, IMHO, you better watch out.
967  Other / Meta / Re: "THE LIST" on: May 11, 2015, 12:57:00 PM
Thanks for your question. I don't have anything against a poster that is using a bought account in order to make some money, as long as he is not offensive or provocative to others.

I agree with you afaic the non-constructive posts of many posters but (thankfully) It's not my job to test their posts for quality. That's the job of the man/woman who runs the campaign.

Most of the serious campaigns here check their posters for constructive comments. If they don't comply they simply don't get paid. I bet that when this behavior becomes the new standard, we will have nothing to hold against a person who has an undersigned campaign under his posts.
968  Other / Meta / Re: "THE LIST" on: May 09, 2015, 02:13:27 PM
To clarify, I was thinking along the lines of a situation where someone might post a question and some of the replies are from ignored users (possibly mixed in with non-ignored users). If I wanted to answer the thread starter's question and I had a large ignore list, I could either choose to submit an answer with the risk that others might think that I am parroting what has already been said (which I'm sure most people wouldn't think too positively of) or read the ignored users' posts which kind of defeats the purpose of having an ignore list. It's not a huge problem if most of my list consisted of trolls since they're not likely to contribute intelligently to discussions but a much more comprehensive list that encompasses a wider variety of users could eventually cause problems.

I don't recognize any of the names in your list and it isn't very long so it's probably fine. DannyHamilton's list goes a bit too far in my opinion since it includes posters like redsn0w, bryant.coleman, and Muhammid Zakir who tend to make highly constructive posts and are an integral part of this community.

This is why I keep a strict list instead of a more wide one. I've often been accused that this is a "bear" list. I can assure you; it's not. The main problem with adding a person that:

a. Has a newbie account
b. Posts vague and/or irrelevant things
c. Kills his time

against a known sockpuppet account, is that's not always clear. As I've stated before, I constantly update this list and move people out of it if they follow my 3 over 3 rule (ie: 3 out of 3 posts are not trolling). It's not THE golden rule, but surely kicks some people like BlindMayorBitcorn out of this list as he posted constructively for 3 times in a row, no matter if he was rude and offended me in one of his previous ones.

Being provocative in a public forum is not tolerable. It feels safe, but it's not noble, nor sane. If you want to be provocative and offensive to someone, IMHO you should have the guts to look him in the eye when you do it and not from your couch comfort, behind a screen and a keyboard. Again, I'm not claiming the infallible. I know that someone can do this job better than me. If you're that specific someone, please make it happen and I will blindly follow.

As a side note, I'd judge your comment of the chance missing some post as a collateral damage. Nevertheless, if that poster follows my 3-3 rule he will be probably out of the list sooner than that happens.

Cheers.
969  Other / Meta / Re: "THE LIST" on: May 09, 2015, 10:14:50 AM
It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable.

And it's not nice -- that's worse  Sad

Only meanies with no sense of humor ignore people, I feel you Blind. Biz you say how you shouldn't have to many people ignored because you run the risk of repeating something someone else has already said! If you look at every thread on this forum and I mean every thread, you will see people must do a lot of frowning because it is all repeated sometimes with different wording but still repeating like a parrot on every thread.

The worse part is when you try reading a long thread to get some info about the price and all you get is irritating pictures of any kind of abnormality the human brain has ever came up with, instead of the info you want. This noise to signal ratio since NLC (don't fool ourselves, the list is all about him and his sockpuppets) came along has been boosted to enormous levels.

Like I said, you can accuse me of anything and I will gladly take it (meanie, no sense of humor, etc). You can also help make this list better. You can also read my replies in this thread, many of your questions might as well been answered. Also remember: This list wouldn't be  here if it wasn't necessary. But that means you wouldn't be able to post here as well... think about it. Wink
970  Other / Meta / Re: "THE LIST" on: May 09, 2015, 10:06:24 AM
It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable.

"Too many people", gratifies a personal opinion (in this case yours) against my initiative to post my ignore list in the public. Yes, the specific risk is there but it's an acceptable one; it's a common phrase: "don't quote the trolls". Other users? I don't follow. You mean provocable ones? Someone would've say the same for everybody with an ad campaign undersigned his posts. The point is that (and let me bold it, because it's the 3rd or 4th time I'm writing it):

THE LIST IS NOT MANDATORY

You can choose to use it or not, you can choose to ignore the whole pack, or not. You can even choose NOT to be here in the first place. The reason I posted it is written in the OP and I'd indulge you to re-read it. Maybe you will find a noble cause there, like so many others did, instead of posting your (IMHO) prejudiced opinion "just to boost your post count" like you said. Besides, you can always say that I began as a troll here (I have been accused of that too). You may as well be right.

Remember: The worst enemies of smoking are the ones who once were smokers.

Cheers.
971  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2015, 09:39:16 PM
Interesting article. I'm not sure that if it ever comes to fruition, but if it does... Well; a man can dream; right?

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Over the next few months, Greece must repay its bailout and large public-sector debts. Greece and the euro zone need a quick, simple solution that allows Greece to stay in the euro zone and retain ownership of its plentiful and prized assets. An IOU currency isn't the answer — but there is one solution that could work.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102663713
972  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2015, 07:19:12 PM


Joy my friends. Joy and happiness in the form of a chart:

973  Other / Meta / Re: "THE LIST" on: May 08, 2015, 07:10:58 PM
thx for sharing list. but please make list alphabetical order for find user, last list :

Code:
ababab1
Ababab2
addmetoTHELIST
AlmostThere881
Alt Accounts Unlimited
And Toto 2?
And Toto too?
AnotherAccount?
AnotherIgnore4u
Anotherthing
asda2
Ask Ken About Hate
Ask Ken About Love
Auntie Em
Auntie EmXXX
Basta101
BITIsHere!!!!
bitards
BitcoinFan101
bitcointoda0
Blood Of The Lamb
Boooooooooring
bromide
btcponzieeg
BullTardLogic
ButVentureCapitaaaaaaal
BUY now SELL never
Cassandra_PR
CatFromhere43
Cattery Redux
cEI14b
cfdtm
Chaosoahc
ChildPr0nzUsers
China!
closed today
Count Chocula
ctnhc
DecentralizeAllThePosts!!
dfsdfs
Dolores Haze
DoxThatTroll
Ergodan
Errydayrally
EVOLUTION_A*D*M*I*N
Fanbx
FatherBob
Fawn 66 -- Bambi Reloaded
Foilking
fonzie
ftftftt
fuckoffstolfi
Gentle Ben
Glinda 3
GlindaX
Going Greek
Grizzliest Adams
Grizzly Adams has a posse
Hellomoon
HemostatX
Hfertig
hgfhf885x
hndgy
IDKwhatisgoinon
indicabob
Jammalan the Prophet
JihadCoinz
JohnPercent
Julie Naaiers
kenr12
LEOCoin Revolution
luckygenough56
Mayer Amschel
MightAsWellIgnore
mmitech
n00bjailnevergonnahappe
NewbieJailIsBadMmkay?
NewPoverty
Not a cop
not10kyet
NotHatinAndNotEvenTrollin
NotHatinJustTrollin
NotLambchop
Paranoia-meter
RWeItc
s_barhotski
sAt0sHiFanClub
screengrid
ShroomsKit
Shtang
SilenceOfTheLamb
Silverspoon
sishendaoye
SlowNinja
smile_baby
Son0fLamb
sporket
stepthroat
Surrender, Dorothy!!1!
The Voice of Reason
trelelel
TulipMania Troll
uderuser
Wandererfromabroad
Warren Buffert
Wicked Witch
widd
William Henry Gates
XVn2xW
Your other friend
YourMother




Thanks. That's a great idea, but I usually update this from my phone. So it's a bit difficult to sort in alphabetic order every time while I'm on the road.
I will use your shorting list though.
BTW:
More have been added. Please update your lists.

Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-08:
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rmbku
oWLrAcEz
fakecovers
ricmi
Gnppnx
niiisj
stoick
UnholyTrinity
974  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: May 08, 2015, 10:10:48 AM

Stagnant times have this kind of behavior. Let's hope we don't stay this way for long.
975  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2015, 09:19:55 PM
Am I the only one sceptic here about the pump that accompanied (?) the ITBIT / GBTC news? I expected a lot more buying regarding this.  Undecided

If there is to be a pump, let it be on the new platforms. China don't care about any of this.

I don't think it has anything to do with China or any other country, whatsoever. Arbitrage would've been taken place in a jiffy if the buying pressure was high, no matter where this would've occurred. The mystery here is the low volume transactions slow paced pumps n dumps and stagnant markets. I do see the order books, but I expected A LOT more because of this move.

Maybe I was just wrong I guess...  Undecided

@HI-TEC99: Maybe it's not the time yet and you've got it right. Patience is a virtue Smiley
976  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2015, 09:08:19 PM
Am I the only one sceptic here about the pump that accompanied (?) the ITBIT / GBTC news? I expected a lot more buying regarding this.  Undecided
977  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2015, 08:51:37 PM
WSJ seems to have a better chart than the others; the question still remains though, how come and GBTC hits higher and higher and the others are hovering at almost half price...

http://quotes.wsj.com/GBTC

Volume was at least 152. The OTC reporting rools paired with microscopic liquidity makes it real tough to get an accurate read of the prices throughout the day.

The 60 shares I sold at $65 today were not reflected in the historical data based on their size.

Interesting that, at market close, there are no GBTC quotes visible on the Bid or Ask side, except for $24 and $299.95.

If Maxim really keeps their Bid pulled, I fear we will find equilibrium lower.

I'm rather surprised that days 2 and 3 both failed to pull a new seller out of the woodwork at 250%+ premiums.


Thanks for the clarification; I couldn't figure out how this works. Smiley
978  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2015, 08:32:44 PM
WSJ seems to have a better chart than the others; the question still remains though, how come and GBTC hits higher and higher and the others are hovering at almost half price...

http://quotes.wsj.com/GBTC
979  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2015, 04:01:53 PM
Looks like we have some movement on Stamp. Market buys & market sells. I believe we're heading North... Smiley

980  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2015, 05:38:27 AM
Well, there's a Greek saying that goes like this:

"Among the funny things, pretty serious things are spoken"

Except you don't believe in "conspiracy theories"... Here's a nice one for you then.

If you ask me, yes; I believe that Greece should be the 1st one to incorporate BTC as a second currency. This way Gresham's law will take over and the debt will be eliminated (BTC=Non inflationary, EUR=inflationary). One after another the other -in debt- countries will follow... EU will be the 1st continent to test the new digital currency as it was the 1st one to test the EURO.

Too crazy to be real?

Remember: Fantasy has limits; Reality has not. Wink

Generally, it's bad idea for a state to switch from fiat to bitcoin: they wouldn't be able to print money anymore. While printing money is important (and sometimes even major) part of their income. All states prefer fiat to bitcoin. However, a state-traitor that adopts bitcoin first, would reap huge benefits of it's to-the-moon rise. IMO, the time for it has not come yet, but in a year or two ...

Unfortunately you're right. Nevertheless, Greece (and any EU country, AFAIK) cannot "print" money anyway. Only ECB & M. Draghi can. In any case I too believe the catalyst will be the country adoption, not the coin itself. I agree that it's a bit early to see such a move right now; but still... Roll Eyes
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