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1561  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 03:53:25 PM
Since the last rally was due to the opening of the Chinese market


Well, I disagree with the premise.

So do most people with an iota of common sense. Jorges argument is  that it was the reason for the last rally due to the price dropping after the pboc news. He ignores the fact that surely it should have dropped to the same levels if that was the sole reason. He ignores the fact that Bitcoin was traded in China way before Nov 13. He ignores the amount of infrastructure, adoption and business being built because he cannot fathom that something can happen that he doesn't understand. He ignores that the Chinese doesn't or didn't own 90% despite touting it around as fact. He ignores the fact that the Chinese exchanges had 0% fees which explain the much higher volume, he ignores you could trade 100BTC volume in a day even with one coin. He also says that we need to keep getting bigger and bigger markets. Its just not true, the whole worlds the market and it just so happened that a small section of that market tried to put the brakes on.
1562  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CryptoNote Exchange on: May 22, 2014, 03:44:59 PM
Any plans to add QCN?  Looks like an opportunity, fee-wise, based on polo activity, but I have no idea about the work involved.



The problem is you still need people to come and trade there, its like someone saying we should make a btc exchange look at all the fees we could make but you still have to get people to trade there.
1563  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 01:39:28 PM
Get used to it, your going to spend a lot of time scratching your head if your trying to find micro reasons for price jumps. Especially when you don't seem to have, even after several months, a true understanding of what makes it valuable to others who don't share your views.

Most of the large moves in the past year had very obvious and plausible explanations.  The closing of SilkRoad, the opening of the Chinese market, the Chinese decrees and workarounds, the MtGOX "bug" announement, the Caixin leak and the workarounds, etc.. 
Please tell me how it was obvious the price would almost half and then bounce straight back after silk road got shut down?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Scratching the head not only seems to work, but I can't see how one could expect to predict price moves and trends without trying to predict such external causes (which unfortunately are largely unpredictable).

Again get used to it because you will be doing a lot of head scratching, this is Bitcoin, many before you have tried (and failed) to predict and make moves on every "event".

It is obvious that the true believers have run out of money, for otherwise they would buy every bitcoin in sight, at any price.  Those traders offering bitcoins for sale at 550$, or buying only at 450$, obviously do not believe that it will be worth 2000$ by the end of the year, or 1'000'000$ in ten years.  They are implicitly assuming much less than one chance in 2000 of the latter happening.

Jeez, well aparantley nobody who beleive's in Bitcoin has any money left because they've all gone all in already, despite a 6 month bear market /s
1564  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 12:45:48 PM


Reminds me of the Mar/03 jump, for which I still know of no explanation.  That one apparently started with a couple of large buys on bitstamp.


Because Bitcoin. Get used to it, your going to spend a lot of time scratching your head if your trying to find micro reasons for price jumps. Especially when you don't seem to have, even after several months, a true understanding of what makes it valuable to others who don't share your views.
1565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: altcoin products on: May 22, 2014, 12:06:49 PM
Because alts in general are just pump and dumps or copy paste coins.

This is evident by peoples reaction to coins that dont have a gui wallet on launch for example. Not because the coin is shit but just because its new tech and you cant just copy paste QT.

On top of that the majoirty are held by early miners and devs who, unlike early btc investors, know that by holding they can pump it up adn dump it onto bag holders.
1566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
somebody removed 800 from the sell side at 528 and market sold it.

Cheers for spotting that, such a weird dump out of nowhere  Huh

Have you seen that wall moving around or has it just been there and someone got impatient?

Could also be arbitrage between Bitstamp and Huobi/BTC-e? Stamp is kinda running ahead of the pack right now.

Yes its a possibility, especially if it was a sell wall for a while, could have bought at either of those sent it there and then dumped down to break even price after worrying the price was going to continue to drop.
1567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 11:06:36 AM
somebody removed 800 from the sell side at 528 and market sold it.

Cheers for spotting that, such a weird dump out of nowhere  Huh

Have you seen that wall moving around or has it just been there and someone got impatient?
1568  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 10:53:56 AM

It is called an inverse head and shoulders. And it is not what is shown.

meh semantics.

You said head and shoulders were bearish but they're not they're either the fact that they can be split into head and shoulder top and head and shoulders bottom doesn't qualify the statement of "head and shoulders are bearish"

But I agree thats not whats shown.

1569  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 10:43:18 AM
Does this look like a Head and Shoulders forming to anyone else? and does this mean the downtrend is in reversal.. does this imply up from here??



Interested to hear other views.. To me, following the breakout, and going north of 500, this is yet another confirmation of a reversal.
All bullish signals.

EDIT: I'm not expecting rally speed up.. but a nice drift gradually upwards would be nice for now.. interspersed with a few legs up here and there as more take the plunge or get fiat to exchanges.

Don't really understand what you are trying to say. head and shoulders patterns are bearish.

No they're not, they're either. A sign of reversal as it were.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_and_shoulders_%28chart_pattern%29

"Head and shoulders formation occurs when a market trend is in the process of reversal either from a bullish or bearish trend"
1570  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 10:39:01 AM
No lol, that looks nothing like a head and shoulders just a $90 rally!

It would look just like your bitcoinity chart but on a 12 hour scale.
1571  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin-pizza day on: May 22, 2014, 10:33:20 AM
Happy Pizza day!

Does anyone want to give me 10k BTC Ill even send you 4 instead of 2 pizzas  Grin
1572  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 10:31:08 AM
Does this look like a Head and Shoulders forming to anyone else? and does this mean the downtrend is in reversal.. does this imply up from here??



Interested to hear other views.. To me, following the breakout, and going north of 500, this is yet another confirmation of a reversal.
All bullish signals.

EDIT: I'm not expecting rally speed up.. but a nice drift gradually upwards would be nice for now.. interspersed with a few legs up here and there as more take the plunge or get fiat to exchanges.

Yes but on a 5 minute chart I wouldn't call it a real "signal" that a true reversal is in, especially after a 6 month downtrend.

Show me a head and shoulders on the 12h and we're talking Wink 
1573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 22, 2014, 10:14:29 AM
MRO is blatantly undervalued right now.

Look how un-innovative some of these coins are that have higher market caps:

http://coinmarketcap.com/#BTC


Monero is much more innovative than megacoin, zetacoin, feathercoin, quark, vertcoin, and blackcoin.

I agree its undervalued, one of the best things I believe with MRO is that its taken of fairly soon after release. That means a lot of peopel know about it before a large proportion of coins are mined, this gives more people a change to get some.

With the easy miner its even simpler to start mining.
1574  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 09:29:21 AM
Fair amount of resistance up from here and around $800k gone from the bid side, will be intersting to see if there's any movement with new deposits as this rally happened on any money that was in yesterday.

1575  Economy / Gambling / Re: Vote:Will you participate in betting on 2014 World Cup with Bitcoin? on: May 22, 2014, 09:21:30 AM
I've already placed my bets this year, dirty fiat unfortunately but I promise to buy BTC with my winning  Grin
1576  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Introducing The QuickCoin Social Wallet on: May 22, 2014, 09:19:29 AM
Looks intersting and good luck! Definately keeping an eye on this, very useful and another step in knocking down the barrier of entry.

Maybe you could answer a couple of questions;

How do you plan to market the product towards the people you are targetting? After all most here wouldn't need a service such as this.

What are your fees/ how do you make your money?
1577  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 09:07:32 AM
One thing that times like this always make me think about is how much more painful it is to be holding fiat when going up than holding bitcoin while going down.

 Not making that mistake again so jumped on the train $100 ago and Im glad I did!
1578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 22, 2014, 08:53:27 AM
[snip]

Great post, all the darkcoin holders need to know is what they are doing is already possible within bitcoin and also that the creator of coin join beleive cryptonote a better tech. I mean how can you argue with that  Huh

Monero is growing at an unprecendented pace so its natural for people who aren't on the train to try and trash talk.
1579  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2014, 07:30:35 AM
I'd be getting very nervous if I wasn't on this train already  Grin

1 week MACD moving the right way, gonna be fireworks when that crosses over.
1580  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 21, 2014, 11:00:21 PM
Anybody knows anxbtc exchange? They seem to have popped from nowhere and are now number 2 for volume.

http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h

Never heard of it but its in Hong Kong and lists in pounds for me, does it detect your local currency ?
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