I have a few questions regarding this campaign...
1. Signup process is asking to join through free trial, but update says free trial is discontinued. Then, how do one Sign Up ?
2. In the OP I see Sigs for Jr. Member, Full Member and Sr. Member. So, is it the case that Member & Hero Members are not allowed ?
3. Does this campaign have anything to do with no. of posts made per week or per month ?
4. Do I need to pay anything to get registered at the website ?
5. Am I allowed to bring in user from other sites for my reference earning ?
6. Am I allowed to use some other Sig design on this forum and use some other links too with Lunamine Sig ?
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May I know when Rollin.io is going to roll out its sig campaign ?
Within 10 days RocketSingh. Ok ...wish u Roll Out soon. By the way, I like your current sig too. Simple & Attractive
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MLM = A big NO.
Sorry guys just watched KBC story in Maharashtra. I am not saying you guys are not legit, but until and unless there is a value ( either service or product ) being delivered in any business model it is ponzi.
Regards
I'm actually against this very specific psychology that says MLM = A big NO. Please do understand that MLM is nothing but a marketing strategy which has nothing to do with Ponzi. No offence to u, this is because of the no. of scams India have seen using MLM. Ponzi schemes took the shirt of MLM and scammed people. But I firmly believe Bitcoin will reduce this scam as transactions will be open. By the way, the business in this context are actually offering an exchange service.
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So, um. Now that it's July 21, can we remove our signatures and still get paid? planned for July 21-23 scares me a bit. Care to clarify?
that's how he always stated payouts, iirc. pretty sure if you go to his last posts, he said they could be removed after the period ended (the 20th), but people usually tend to keep the sigs until paid in this situation. That's gonna be pretty crappy then cause I read it as you can change it on the 21st to which this forum's time frame is UK time meaning everything that is posted under their current today doesn't count. I logged 117 posts and then checked this thread and noticed the OP was stopping the campaign. So, naturally I was looking into other campaigns and found primedice and got with them once the 21st time frame started on this forum which I imagine the OP goes by. My starting count w/ PD was 839 so I do hope that all goes well and I get paid appropriately as I was a loyal worker during this weekly campaign up until time officially was over. Anyone that peruses my threads knows I was sigging FXO up until a few hours ago. Given the reputation of FXO, U can safely assume that u'll be paid off. FXO is not UpDown.
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Only Dell USA is accepting Bitcoin as far as I know. I am not sure if Dell India or for that matter other Dell X country is also accepting it.
Regards
Nopes... only DELL USA for now.
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--snip-- Next point is the point that makes it a MLM/Pyramid Scheme It is 0.01BTC at the joining. Everyone needs to refer just 3 people to cover their joining fee. People enjoy indirect referral too. The last person, who is quite far given the increasing adoption rate of Bitcoin, may also consider it as a membership cost to enjoy multiple low cost bitcoin services. Well indirect referral, humm.... Pyramid Scheme much. OH !! wow thank you for bring up Amway I almost forgot that fuckup of a company http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/amway-backdrop-qnet-ajay-chanam-on-direct-selling-marketing/1/195445.htmlAnd Avon has now moved to pay and salary structure for their direct sellers. TupperWare Cmon you make it so easy for me. That company has been going down the drains for ages, with change in marketing systems that never seems to work companies like MAC and even Lakmé supersedes its sales volume. their operations in UK has closed. In the US 80% of their sale is now done by Retail giants like Walmart and Target. All in all these companies atleast sell a physical product. They are not selling membership to a BTC exchange where in you have to pay to get in. Its not some American Express card that has over the top Customer care and support that warrants a signup fee. Look... now u r contradicting yourself with your own reference. There is a line in your reference... What are the main differences between MLM/DS companies and pyramid marketing companies ? Read the answer yourself why MLM != Pyramid Scheme Now, about the reason, why most of the companies face trouble in running MLM. It is NOT because they are running MLM, but because of the chain. Sometimes they dont properly pay the chain as per commitment and sometimes the chain is tipped by competing companies to bring allegation of non-payment. As most of these commissioning used to happen in cash, the trouble continues. This is NOT possible in Bitcoin as the payment will be written in the public ledger called BlockChain. And please read the last sentence of your link again, again and again... Legitimate DS companies are structured to reward people for promoting their products. There are Direct Selling/MLM companies, as they are referred in this article, which are absolutely LEGAL. p.s. Well, though I drilled up and explained the misconceptions, it'll most likely have no real effect. It is like explaining bankers Bitcoin is Legal.
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Now as you have got me started on the validity of this scheme. let me elaborate what i think of this exchange's policy.
i. Joining will cost 0.01BTC. ii. U can earn 0.003BTC at each referral. iii. U'll also enjoy a part of 0.003BTC at every new member joining. iv. Minimum amount one can trade is 0.01BTC v. Exchange commission for trading is going to be 0.0005BTC to start off.
Joining Cost = 0.01 Referral payback = 0.003
Taking 0.01 BTC = 375.97 INR
Now, lets say you want earn back you amount and refer 3 people so = 3 X 0.003 = 0.009 Which means you really need 4 to cross over your break even. good luck convening people to signup for an exchange where they have to pay.
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Now I see u have no previous experience in properly analysing any MLM. U never tried actually. Because u were always told MLM is a SCAM. Like people think Bitcoin is Banned !!! It goes like... (3 X 0.003) + (~0.001) = 0.01, where (~0.001) is coming from the indirect referral of 3 persons. But this value diminishes as the chain goes long and 4 person requirement becomes true !!! p.s. Not sure how this company will put in the things. But convincing people does not take place like they have to pay. It happens like how much they'll be paid back... I just see the amount is too low for me
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You may have miss read my statement that hurting your feelings. I will restate or in other words dumb it down for you. What i said is that MLM is always associated with Scams and ponzi scams, in india. Which means most of these type of marketing strategy turns out as a scam. Note here, that i have not accused this new exchange of a Scam but only pointed out How such marketing Schemes have turned out as in the past. I can give you a list of this MLM programs that would be as long as Santas Naughty list that for a fact turned out as a scam.
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Dont u think it is too much of assumption ? Just because someone else scammed so it'll ? It is like Mt. Gox scammed so will BitStamp or most of the Alt Coins are scam so are Litecoin & DogeCoin !!! Funny eh...
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Wow this seems like a pain in the ass. 0.0002 every month? Some faucets are slightly better, but still you can only get a few cents a day, unless you have lots of ref earnings. Some faucets even claim to pay more... but they dont actually pay ever If u go for faucets at all... then go for those who publishes their payment. Else ...be cheated. Why would you even bother to try to earn .0002 BTC over a month? This works out to be roughly $0.12! Most people could find this much by looking under the pillows on their couch. From when Bitcoin is being found under the pillow ?
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May I know when Rollin.io is going to roll out its sig campaign ?
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not a good set-up .... i know you might be working hard , but it's start , and 0.1 btc for joining , it'll hard and it's a tree system if people stop joining , the last one's are left with nothing all the best though
It is 0.01BTC at the joining. Everyone needs to refer just 3 people to cover their joining fee. People enjoy indirect referral too. The last person, who is quite far given the increasing adoption rate of Bitcoin, may also consider it as a membership cost to enjoy multiple low cost bitcoin services. Problem is that MLM is always associated with scams in india, Aryarup/ATCR , SpeakAsia , Unipay2u, Stock Guru, TVI Express. has not got confidence booting in people about this. all these pyramid and MLM have the same MO joining fee and get people to join and you get paid a certain % in the end it ends up as a huge ponzi scheme. I dont have much idea about all the names u r talking about. But, I have issues calling an MLM a Ponzi. MLM is a way of marketing. Ponzi is the scheme that is associated to scam. Because, in Ponzi, the company lure people with the 100%-200% return guarantee, but practically pay out with investor's money. On the contrary Amway, Avon, TupperWare and a lot other respected name in the marketing world use MLM as a marketing strategy and doing good business for years. MLMs provide product/service and offer people a commission to spread the word. So, calling a business straight out scam just because it uses MLM is probably not a good judgement.
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Applying. Email: singhrocket771[at]gmail.com , Address: 1Dk4Si2w8StdGVsMW7AYMchTf99NKdVec8
I'm confused whether I was selected or rejected. There were 2 free space for members and I applied second. But I dont see my name in the updated OP. Do I need to do anything else ?
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Applying. Email: singhrocket771[at]gmail.com , Address: 1Dk4Si2w8StdGVsMW7AYMchTf99NKdVec8
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A small heads up for you Mr. 'Hacker'.
Now u know we are close... here is a little good news for you !!!
If u return 90% fund within the 24 hours given time to Klee, we wont look for you... we will forget you.
Thereby u retain 10%.
But, if u dont, we'll use that 10% to go for the law enforcement to find u with the information we have.
It is your call. 24 hours. Thank You !!!
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The thief has been traced back to the GoDaddy domain Whois privacy is going to be over with a formal complaint and we are going to get Credit Card info. We'll move unless 90% is returned to Klee by next 24 hour. Thank u Mr. 'Hacker'
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Like a TOR, our service has not been designed for criminals. It was designed for guard privacy. Like a TOR, our service is used by criminals as well. But as I said if we can't guard criminal, we can't guard nobody including you.
btw, we have a big lack - fixed fee. Look deeper here hunters.
Have someone hunted this part ?
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2013 was the "technologists" boom 2014 is being the "merchants" boom 2015 could be the banking boom
Cant agree more to this...
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Do you think the hacker will be mixing the coins with his ip provided by local internet service? lol there is no way to trace out the real location. LoL... seems u have no clue how the trace back takes place
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I am guessing that the hacker is now watching this topic also - he should be advised to make sure he sends the rest of the funds he promised to send ASAP.
Most of us do not see any good reason for 36 days and so it would be in his best interests to make good on this as quickly as possible.
36 days time has been taken for a reason. He'll now mix the other coins using other mixers or alt coins. But as Klee has declared he is happy with 462 coins, no one will freeze his fund or trace him. He'll get enough time to cover his traces with multiple mixing. It shows again, we were close... very close. One complaint against Bitmixer could hunt him down... because, I firmly believe, he has accepted coins in a previously used address, where his identity is attached on some forum on the web. Even if the output address was not attached to his identity, if bitmixer were to give up the output address, it would effectively make mixing coins useless and would never be able to actually cash out. This is one of the o/p address provided by the thief (he is not a hacker, he has no ethics) to bitmixer.io: https://blockchain.info/address/1PGcQz81CkR7N4coxn66G3SnVXZiKA4ry7Mixing happened here: https://blockchain.info/tx/8c0ff3dbb2d1338ac0a9f08d95c45f63131a527328376a6fbecafcd542ddf150
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