I have almost that exact same image on a different window.
Going for the model X though. Same color.
Yeah it's pretty. Why the X over the S if I might ask? Preparing for a future family. model X is kind of understatement from outside, which i like a lot. inside it is fkn huuuuge. (i always hated car fumes, made me sick all my life starting from childhood. always annoyed me, inducing nausea. the combustion engine might be a well engineered kind of achievement, but all the oil, stinking fumes, the grime/smut... disgusting... really disgusting... - now, this Tesla is clean like a fresh pack of shiny white handkerchiefs. and absolutely no sound... rides very smooth. ) and on top of it all, event hough it is a family car, it accelerates like a beast in less than 3 sec to 100km/h. if i push ludicrous mode it pulls so hard that my glasses are pushed over my head. no joke. i showed some friends, after two rounds we had to stop, sweating soaking wet. the acceleration is ... hard to describe. my 911 feels like a snail compared to it. i dont think there are many regular of the shelve cars out there that could beat a model x. maybe none. ok, sorry for my model x shilling. btw: congrats elwar regarding your plan. kids are the answer. good times ahead for you! |
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bummer. glassnode no longer let's unregistered or simple users view liquid/illiquid supply graphs and numbers    well then, take one for the team, mate...  |
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That's not goosebumps, that's Genital warts. how come you have such detailed knowledge? i dont recall meeting you. |
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Crossing $42k was necessary to continue this rally. Tesla buying will prompt a whole new push upwards due to the acceptance that it is what the smart companies are doing.
Also, I was contemplating my next car. A plug in hybrid Pacifica or Rav4. I didn't consider Tesla because I want to be able to drive long distances.
But after Musk started tweeting positive things about Bitcoin I looked into Tesla. Looks like charging stations are common enough that I can drive most places no problem.
If I can buy a Tesla with bitcoin I'm buying one.
i got a model X and it is a great car. i can recommend. when entering this car it is like boarding the future. you can have bitcoinwisdom on the big screen while driving, absolutely nuts.  |
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who the hell is trying to dump? it has worked so well since bitcoin crossed $10. muahaha muahhaha |
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New EUR ATH!!!
whozza!! fuck yeah! |
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Why every time I come here shitcoins are being discussed on WO? Is it some kind of a trend? It's bull season. It's always been like this. Pump / Uppity --> Trollery / Shitcoinery. It's fun, just enjoy it. We all know who's going to be the last one laughing. what you are describing is right. but i also think it is kind of sad to see the lack of discipline. shitcoinery shits e v e r y w h e r e in the "crypto-space" it is like the smell of a rotten corpse, a regular maxi cannot get used to this stinky mess. is it really asked to much to spare the WO with this bullshit? why do the folks that bring it in here not bringing it where it belongs? to the shitcoin threads. because no one is listening there? that should tell you something. I think WO has attained a high status over the many years of its existence, and everyone and their grandma wants to be part of it, or at least wants to post here, see the reactions, maybe get a couple of merits. Trolls crave attention, and WO serves as a playground for them. The come, dump their shit and wait for the smell to upset the residents. We used to have BCH/BSV shills, who at least had something to say about things. We had r0ach who was not a shitcoiner, but a bitter Nazi nocoiner. I'm going to say this and you can hate me, but I liked r0ach's posts. It was fun to read his Jew-hating, Hitler-praising, PM-shilling nonsense. Like the crazy man in the village so to speak... Then there was kwukduck & proudhon, the beartards. Again, fun to read and imagine who was really behind the keyboard. A whale having fun? A bitter mindrusted former coiner? Just a random someone with nothing better to do? Currently I see the level of trollery and shitcoinery drop way below what it used to be. One could disagree with r0ach, but he could still defend his position with "evidence", no matter how nonsensical they were. Nowadays we just have what I call "kamikazi trolls", i.e., they come, drop a load of crap and leave. Still, the trend remains, i.e., when we're in bull season there's increased troll activity. I wish this did not happen but it does. I just look at the price, enjoy the positive vibes, skip the bad troll posts, have some fun with the good ones. The beauty of WO is that it has achieved a way of self-moderation without some WO-policemen banning or removing posts constantly. Here there's total freedom, yet there is no chaos like in other threads. A kind of orderly anarchy. I like that. excellent analysis. i dont agree with the nazi stuff, though. |
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Yes you are completely right, I was on a shit reporting drive and mixed up your avatar with that other Bitvest participant Indymoney god dammit shame on me! Hope my publicly apologizing here (+per PM) is sufficient to you, it won't happen again!
I know these feelings, i constantly mix up messages and messengers when names are involved. But this is a different story. Maybe unrelated: The following statements might not be directly connected, but the emotional quality of most discussions has changed quite much in here, and it has a certain time based correlation with THE PANDEMICIt's that Covid shit fucking us and our lives all up. Slowly, but constantly. I experience this every day now, in some form or another. In family, society, friends, politics... Yesterday i was watching a movie, people were close distanced, no masks, and it was the first time it all appeared fucking unnatural to me, before i realized that this pandemic life slowly becomes "normal life". This is a manifestation of the whole virus situation and social approaches to solve it slowly fucking us over, just because we were never meant to life our lives like that. We are actually slowly degrading as humans. I feel the sentiment in WO slowly changing too, precisely since the start of this global shitshow. We don't even talk about it any more in here, and it's not because it's off topic, because dozens of things we talk about each week are OT as well. Many former active members have slowly gone quieter and quieter. This is the crisis. This is our test as individuals, as family members, as communities, for society. Either we evolve and handle the situation with care and foresight, or we just give in to the primal instincts of our genetic ancestors. What would YOU prefer? We're at WO are a minority, tied together by our dedication to BTC, Satoshi Nakamoto's present to us. We should stand together as strong as we hodl, regardless if we think all other's opinion is worth some mushy shit or not. Together we're sitting in this train which is going to the moon, so let's get our shit together and ENJOY IT, because for many of us it might be one of the last things we will be able to enjoy anyway, at least for some more time. Most of the "fun" is even up to come, like the expected hit on global economy. I could go on pathetically like this, but i just hope you all know what i mean, even if i look like a over-emotional clown to some of you right now. Gentlemen! out of merit, will do later. it is a global crisis of a century. a natural disaster (well, scope-wise, not saying it did not escape from some lab) that affects all human beings on the planet. this virus is so contagious that every single human being on this planet will have to deal with it. you either get it because of infection or in form of a vaccine. the immune systems of all human beings must cope with it. no way around that. i know i rather wait for the vaccine. it is there, it just needs to get produced on scale and distributed. in my opinion, without the internet, we would have all ran havoc by now. tech is saving us. (it is possible that tech also got us there, i dont know) for bitcoiners it is very weird to see the world almost falling apart while bitcoin is getting so valuable. the whole world went in kind of forced hibernation. when covid winter is over, we will make it out of our caves. it will be beautiful to meet again. humankind will have a party. the little bonus for bitcoiners is the amount of financial independence they gained. for some areas, like for example where i live, the darkest hours are yet to come. but the silver lining is clearly visible, and it is real. we will pull through. this is the crisis, but we will make it. hodl bitcoin and stay healthy. the rewards are breathtaking. edit: new ATH before February 14th. i take bets. |
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Why every time I come here shitcoins are being discussed on WO? Is it some kind of a trend? It's bull season. It's always been like this. Pump / Uppity --> Trollery / Shitcoinery. It's fun, just enjoy it. We all know who's going to be the last one laughing. what you are describing is right. but i also think it is kind of sad to see the lack of discipline. shitcoinery shits e v e r y w h e r e in the "crypto-space" it is like the smell of a rotten corpse, a regular maxi cannot get used to this stinky mess. is it really asked to much to spare the WO with this bullshit? why do the folks that bring it in here not bringing it where it belongs? to the shitcoin threads. because no one is listening there? that should tell you something. |
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I hope that you are not suffering too much, LFC... with that cold iron fist of yours.
There surely is some value with delayed gratification.. and yeah, there could be a bit of a dilemma for some HODLers regarding the extent to which a wee bit of shaving off could be prudent - and yeah, we don't really feel like a blow off top or anything like that, even though many of us had been thinking that $40k or $50k-ish would be good areas to sell decent amounts of stash.. but many of us are not feeling so inclined in these here days... for some reason.. not feeling like the cycle has run.. and it seems still early.. we are like in the early to mid - 2017s rather than the late 2017s.. so it seems.. and gosh, could we be in the early 2013s so deserving two blow off tops in this cycle with the second blow off top obviously playing out as a 5 to 10x BIGGER one.. ?
I am not going to say.. even though I have some theories that are floating in the decent odds categorizations... feelings... oh oh oh .. feelings...
I finally have a sell strategy, after all these years. I set up a spreadsheet with a sell ladder. I’m not going to go too deep into it but my sells start about $10,000 north from the current price & continue every $5,000 (roughly) until we hit $250,000. Nothing goes as you plan it perfectly but at least I have a starting point now. I’d like to continue HODLING at least 25% of my stash long term. Let’s see how this cycle plays out  I'm still not sure whether I'll start selling at $50k or should I move my sell orders to $75-80 area. So far I'm ready to sell at $50k but it won't last long. I guess I will wait until the end of the month or so. Institutions must try harder to get my coins, dammit!  I also think I will keep some 25%-50% of my stash at least for one more cycle. I will NEVER sell my entire stash and become a nocoiner!  selling BTC for what? Gold? OK (IMO) if you are a bit over invested in BTC. Silver? OK, for our U.S. friends because most of them think silver cannot be confiscated. FIAT? Not OK (IMO) just in case you really need some to buy other things. Why not selling for FIAT? Why do all the stocks, real estate, land, commodities etc. increase in price? It's not because their value is increasing all the time. But the value of FIAT is decreasing all the time therefore the price of the others in FIAT is increasing. think about it. very refreshing to observe that the sentiment in WO has changed a bit. it used to be "what is the best exit strategy on cycle top?" to " never sell ALL your coins" i am flip flopping between selling only some, keeping basically 90% or so. or selling 50% to 80% of stash, hopefully close to the top. this is hard to decide. in my case, and i am sure others are in the same boat, it is the single most important financial decision of my life - so far. going through a multiyear 80% correction without having sold any is gut wrenching. i have done it twice and promised myself, not to do this again. the little problem with this promise is, that ... well ... this time it could be different TM. Either this run up or the next one will be, imho, the one where bitcoin reaches escape velocity. there will still be corrections but no 80% multiyear suffering. worst outcome is sell all and then price does another 2x or more and does not come back. you did not hodl all the years to fold just short of the finish line. i played around with laddering. start at 80k and sell up to 50% of stash until 400k in little steps. but: selling means trading the best money ever for dirty fiat that is getting debased to the point it crashes completely. best outcome would be: price runs up, fiat semi-collapses and all the world wakes up and all they want is bitcoin to trade for their villas or lambos. then bitcoiners would not need to sell. this "should i sell, and if yes, how much and when" is a game that we will not have to play forever. within this decade, maybe even in the first half, this question will be answered for good: hodl! this year is the year where we will have to play this thing right. good to have a forum where we can discuss. |
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For whatever reason you have to sell, having a strategy set up in advance is never a bad thing. Trying to match the top is far more difficult than predicting the bottom (e.g. 200W MA) in my opinion. For that reason, a sell ladder can be a good strategy. It's automatic and it won't cause you stress trying to match the exact top.
I personally sold some coins between $30-40k to reinvest in real-estate. I could have held them longer for more fiat gains, but I had a strategy set up a long time ago and I held on to it. No regrets.
Right now I have no need for more fiat, so I have no further plans to sell anything.
I have had this same plan personally. I could have been a billionaire if I held on to all of my coins. Sounds tragic but I am just as happy being a decamillionaire . On one hand, you never know for sure what it may reach, on the other, you want some gains in-between. Make a plan that you can accept the consequences of whichever way it goes. woah. does "deca" imply between 10 and 100 mil USD? also congrats, well played. |
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Nah, she'll do the rapid anus COV test, it's unisex , insta-results, 100% guaranteed. Only $99.99! The anal Covid test is for free  good one, but NEVER do this while climbing up a tree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4GjytdY9dw |
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Holy shit, I decided to purge out some old threads in my watch list and I deleted one from the alt section and just because I haven't looked at that board in years now I decided to see what was being posted and I ran into the funniest post I have seen in years! I think you guys will get a chuckle out of this one! ~snip~ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314741.0I did chuckle. Poor fella, but I guess you have to learn it the hard way. I didn't know a ticket to the moon was a mere $150 though. until May 21st 2012, when btc price was around $4-5, $150 would have bought you approx. 30 btc. as late as january 2013 you could have gotten 15 btc. i dont think fees were an issue back then. it is by the way quite ironic, that one of vitalik´s arguments to create ETH was the "high fees" in btc. there are videos recorded where he is critizising bitcoin hard for its fees. cant find any link, saw it on twitter. ETH is the best financed, most effective global marketing steam roller ever created. in a few decades ETH will be completely forgotten, some obscure technical dead-end street. but vitalik buterin will be remembered forever for his wonderful contribution to the bitcoin community. as he coined the term bitcoin maximalismwhich started as an injurious attempt and became a batch of honor, a duty and a way of life. |
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 Exactamente!!!!!.... I am in complete agreement with you, Save the RF, on this particular lame and irrelevant point. These days.. 65watts can give off the same quantity of lumenes.... as the old 600w.. In that regard, we (the royal we, perhaps?) surely need a 65watt 600w in order to modernize. fuck those cold LEdiodes. i am all for high pressure sodium with lots of juice throughput. |
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I knew about bitcoin in 2009 just because this! I don't get trapped into ideas or systems. Or new ways that become old ways. World is always evolving and revolving around the new generations and old become irrelevant. ... Adapt or quit!...  what kind of utter bullcrab are you trying to say? you, the opportunist that says he wants to ride the waves of making decent profit on alts did choose not to buy when bitcoin was at 10 cent? you could have bought 50k bitcoin for $5k and which would be worth 2 billion USD. failing miserably is one thing. acting like an asshole towards others is another. you are where you are because of your own actions. so stop barking at me, ok? |
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you seem to have never gotten away from the amateurish view of bitcoin being a token that opportunistic profit hunters like you can play the pump and dump game. bitcoin isn´t just a shitcoin token, it is a base layer monetary protocol, a NETWORK. did the internet get replaced after 5 or 10 years? ever heard of network effect? you´re really that deaf? being the opportunist you admitted to be, the lack of ability to grasp seismic technological shifts has crippled your conviction. now don't be salty because others were able so see that one coming. wish you all the best trading shitcoins. i hodl bitcoin. |
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impressive. style rulez.
600wattuhm... triggered much? Boy. Let me teach you on psychology and shilling of sh!tcoin that is also Bitcoin as well. you believe that bitcoin is a shitcoin? that is your contribution to the WO? do i miss a (failed?) attempt on satire? you think bitcoin is not a completely different thing than all the pump&dump scamcoins? just another ponzi or what? I did manage to read u'r "Bitcoin Maximalist" post. which one? And you must know, all this f^ckery with cryptocurrency is an illusion. Might not be a permanent one, but it is a temporary illusion. Think of Bitcoin as a religion. But RELIGIONS ALWAYS DIE. Even the "Bitcoin Religion" will die soon in a few years. well yes, shitcoin shitcoinery is not only an illusion but they are designed to scam clueless noobs. bitcoin on the other side, is a technological breakthrough. technology is shaping our world. it is more than a religion. the very reason that we are able to publicly discuss on an internet forum is not a result of pure faith in semiconductors. software is eating the world. digitization is to the 21st century as industrialization has been for the 19th century. bitcoin is the only viable valve for all the value existing in analog form, in the analog world, to migrate into the digital realm. that is not religious, buddy. that is world changing and the fact that you, after learning about bitcoin for so many years, dont seem to even get this a tiny bit is.... a surprise. So don't get triggered into the illusion that the wave pushes you into believing it will be forever. Stop holding the bag at some point. Don't put your faith in BTCitcoin that you religiously carry with you like a damn f^cking heavy cross weighting you down for so many years, so you can just get screwed over one day. I'd advice you to keep spending and live your life happy and content with enjoying a simple, relaxing but a non-hold-the-bag-for-lost-causes. wtf are you talking about? this "heavy cross" i am carrying, those bags of bitcoin is/are - besides the stuff that really counts in life like having my own little family, making kids, raising kids - by far the very very fucking very best thing in life ever happened to me. to be able to escape this grinding, ugly, life sucking, eternal rat race for good - i cant find words for the amount of relief this brings. you think bitcoin is a lost cause? it hasn´t even started yet. regular folks being able to store the fruits of their work in an independent, p2p, decentralized permissionless, unconfiscatable, censorship resistant digital network, that no agency or large corporation or politician can fuck with, is not the same as idiotic ponzi bag holding. do i really need to tell this to a hero member of bitcointalk, who came in 5 years ago, punching in thousands of posts? may i ask why tf you are even doing this, if it is a lost cause, a religious idiotic game of bag holding retards? what is in it for you? you want btc to pump so you can have more fiat? edit*(): You can always make more money, but you will never get back lost time. the amount of time, the decades i am not spending creeping up any bosses arse, does not come close to the amount of time i spent on having fun with WO comrades. i agree with you on this one. a career isnt everthing. 60hrs weeks with no vacation is slavery. the fiat system is slavery. mate, i dont think there has ever been a successful attempt to bring along a fair money for the people, by the people. digital networks made it possible. i have serious doubts it can be repeated in the future. the monetization of the open bitcoin protocol might as well be the single point in history where little guys like us had (and have!) a decent chance to participate in something really big. it is like owning a part of the entire future car industry in 1910. or like owning a part in all of the internet in 1995. gold is not the same as pyrite. bitcoin is financial atheism. you signed up to a gold forum and actively participated over the span of 5 years. and your conclusion is that gold and pyrite are the same bullshit that will fade away? even better, you shout at me for being exited about gold in a gold forum? |
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Just checking in on these FRIYAY's  Home cooked "ugly dressed" as how jimbo would say ... but still delicious imo ... impressive. style rulez. |
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- Blockchains sind um viele Größenordnungen langsamer als bspw. zentralisierte Datenspeicher.
- Blockchains bieten keine substantiellen Redundanzvorteile gegenüber anderen verteilten Datenspeichern.
- Blockchains stellen eine weniger geeignete Serialisierung von Daten dar als hierarchische Systeme.
- Blockchains lassen sich als Merkle-Tree (üblicherweise*) nur bei vollständiger Kenntnis des Teilbaums abbilden.
Das bedeutet, dass der Einsatz von Blockchains enorme Nachteile mit sich bringt. das sind gute technische begründungen. finde ich mehr als nur eine meinung. Den Eindruck habe ich auch, und die Leute könnten kaum falscher liegen Roll Eyes
Blockchain ist eine Krücke, die sich Bitcoin unter die Arme packen musste, weil nichts besseres zur Verfügung stand (wie im post weiter oben beschrieben).
Die "wahre" Technologie hinter Bitcoin ist tatsächlich Proof of Work.
Grundsätzlich ist ein Bitcoin auch mit anderen Datenspeichern als einer Blockchain denkbar (ob das nun sinnvoll ist oder nicht).
Ein vollständig dezentraler Coin ohne Proof of Work aber ist nach heutigem Stand der Technik nicht denkbar.
Erst PoW brachte die Möglichkeit mit sich, einen Anreiz für die Teilnehmer im Netzwerk zu schaffen, das Netzwerk immer stärker abzusichern (Mining), und die Arbeit für das Verifizieren von Transaktionen zu leisten.
Und das in vollständig dezentraler Form, permissionless, wie man so schön sagt.
Auch historisch lässt sich diese Entwicklung gut belegen, von Adam Backs HashCash über Hal Finneys RPoW.
Dieses PoW kombinierte Satoshi mit der Erzeugung von Coins in Wei Dais B-Money, und fertig war Bitcoin.
Die Blockchain war dann lediglich noch der Datenspeicher.
genau, die bitcoin blockchain als datenspeicher. habe ich den link zur BLOCKCHAIN STRATEGIE DER BUNDESREGIERUNG schon gepostet? https://www.bmwi.de/Redaktion/DE/Publikationen/Digitale-Welt/blockchain-strategie.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=22das wäre in richtiges deutsch (ohne buzzword) übersetzt: die datenspeicher strategie der bundesregierung. und somit völlig entzaubert. Die Censorship Resistance ist ein Ergebnis der Block Reward.
Die Unfälschbarkeit resultiert aus dem Merkle-Tree, bzw. den darin gespeicherten Signaturen.
Die Nicht-Manipulierbarkeit gibt es (streng genommen) nicht, sondern lediglich eine scharfe Mitigation, die ihrerseits aus dem PoW resultiert.
Erstaunlicherweise ist also zu bemerken, dass die Blockchain als einzige eingesetzte Technologie keinen sonderlich wichtigen Beitrag zu Bitcoin leistet. das sind sehr gute argumente gegen die nutzung dieses buzzwords. weil blockchain eben zwar technologische aspekte hat aber eben keine innovative, stand alone technologie ist. im bitcoin whitepaper kommt blockchain doch garnicht vor, oder? aluhut auf: es könnte sich bei dem Blockchain-not-bitcoin Narrativ um eine abwehrstrategie handeln. man koppelt einen unwichtigen nebenaspekt heraus und lobt diesen über der klee. man schreibt diesen aspekt "in die höhe" - popularisiert diesen (im wissen, dass dieser aspekt gar nichts zu leisten vermag) in der öffentlichen diskussion um dann, wenn sich nach ein paar jahren herausstellt, dass sich mit diesem aspekt (blockchain) nichts anfangen lässt, lautstark und medienwirksam das ganze projekt bitcoin öffentlich zu beerdigen. |
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