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1641  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: March 15, 2016, 07:15:15 PM
Depends on how much bitcoin is worth in 20 years, I am pro-bitcoin so I would say it would be around $2000-$3000 dollars and therefore would require around 300-500 bitcoins to retire.

it's very difficult to collect that many bitcoins nowadays. people should have been collecting them when the price was still below $100 as it was a more than great buying opportunity. that's how i look at it. wealthy people with deep pockets can buy that many bitcoins right now and hold it for a long time. their fiat holdings will decrease and decrease, which makes bitcoin a great store of wealth option for them with a fantastic potential return.
1642  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: March 15, 2016, 07:08:20 PM
Investing is good as long as one has money to live comfortably on a month by month basis. If one struggles to live with his own wage that's very hard of even thinking about it.
I invested in btc when I was able to and today I'm carefully looking after my investment

you are wise when it comes to investing your money. a lot of the panic sellers sell because they invest money that they can't miss in their personal life. they sell just to prefent themself from making bigger losses. they don't know what they are doing. these people should stay far away from any kind of investment.
1643  Economy / Speculation / Re: $10,000 per Bitcoin ??? on: March 15, 2016, 06:12:04 PM
10k on 2020 maybe ?

or next year .. will be good for me  Cool Cool

seeing the price reach the $10,000 level is good for all people, but for this to happen next year, that's quite impossible in reality. 
1644  Economy / Speculation / Re: $10k???? on: March 15, 2016, 06:07:36 PM
$10k=2016

your thoughts?

no, it won't rise so fast, bitcoin can rise fast and high, but not to 10000$ and not in 10 months form 400$ only

on other side, it can fall down really fast, in month it can go to 10$ in case of panic or anything else, so we need to secure this price first then think about 10000$

when something isn't very likely to happen still doesn't mean that it isn't possible. we have seen how our price predictions got trashed plenty of times already. and yes, you are right about the fact that the price can go down quite fast. building up the price takes quite some time and effort, while dumping the price down takes only a few hours. in these few hours months of building up the price have been vanished. Sad but the hard reality.
1645  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: March 14, 2016, 12:32:26 PM
I think the bottom is at $200-220, can't see it fall more. Not unless the scaling debate takes an ugly turn before the next halving

lol no, the bottom this year is still $350. so far nothing has changed. not sure how you come up with $200-$220 as these prices are not part of the question anymore.
I feel that the price of bitcoin will be under $ 300, because if the price is below $ 300 would have been very many people bought that makes prices higher rise. may be waiting in vain for bitcoin prices down, but maybe it will happen in a long time

everything is possible when it comes to bitcoin, but i don't see any indication for the price to dive under $300 in the coming months. it may go below $400 again for a short time, but definitely not in the lower $300's or even sub $300. we are coming closer and closer to he block halving which will drive the price higher and higher. those who are waiting for sub $300 will end up wasting their time.
1646  Economy / Speculation / Re: $2k in january on: March 14, 2016, 12:28:19 PM
That will not happen that fast. Of course you see now that the price is rising, but it wont rise that fast.
I hope that it will rise for a long time. But it must rise faster and faster that will be good for us and for those who made an investment.

i prefer this slow rise over a massive rally.

at least with a slow grow you can be more sure that the price is going to stick around and not fall back down after a week. like every other pump that we see after the fast rise people will cash out and that will cause the price to crash and then be followed by panic sells and crash more.

But in the process there will be price drop as well. I just do not want the price to drop too quickly or too big.
Its hard to say for what is going to happen in the future later. And I think it is not possible to happen that fast.
Because if it is rising it will not rise that fast and that is the problem.

the price not going up fast is very good in my opinion. i like the price to build up slower so it will be more sustainable than when the price goes up due to a peak. peaks are great for a quick profit, but they won't add anything to the long term price as peaks come and go. that's why i only focus on long term growth.
1647  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: March 14, 2016, 11:22:02 AM
I think the most important thing about bitcoin is the price and that is the reason I am using it and investing my money into it as value keeps on fluctuating that allows me to make quick profits in short term.

Sure the price is atracting more and more people into bitcoin but isnt only those bitcoin,low fees and instant transactions and a no limit of how much money you can moove,and the big thing his you dont need to ask to the bank when you can get your money.

Yeah you have total freedom to access your money whenever you want and you don't have to depend on permission from bank to withdraw or transfer your funds, no bank fees, no paper work.
Of course it matters. If the price is high than you can make a lot of money with it and that is very good for us.
If the price is low than you can make some investments and if you already have Bitcoin you just have to hold it.

the price of bitcoin is very important for all parties involved in it. for long term holders the current price may not have a very high priority as they don't plan to sell anything this year, but that's a different thing. but the majority of the traders here are short term minded. these people are checking the price plenty of times per day. and not to forget the miners. they are only in the market for the money that they earn with mining. they have a lot expenses to pay. a higher price will greatly help them. these were just some examples as there are much more companies and services that rely on the price.
1648  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: March 14, 2016, 11:16:31 AM
I think the bottom is at $200-220, can't see it fall more. Not unless the scaling debate takes an ugly turn before the next halving

lol no, the bottom this year is still $350. so far nothing has changed. not sure how you come up with $200-$220 as these prices are not part of the question anymore.
1649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you still keep a fiat retirement account? on: March 14, 2016, 10:51:48 AM
even if i wanted, it's not even possible here to withdraw my current fiat retirement account and convert all that to bitcoin. bitcoin is nice and has a great future ahead of it. but that doesn't mean people will leave fiat behind and go full on bitcoin.
1650  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: March 14, 2016, 10:46:04 AM
Earning a living with bitcoin is pretty possible but needs already working or starting with good invested amount. For some countries where the living's level is low i think even small amounts of bitcoins could help their people to earn living with bitcoin

Accepted, but the real fact behind bitcoin is, it needs a external investment from our day time job. Just with bitcoin earning a comfortable living is not possible.

it depends. there is a lot demand for solid and high level coders. these people can make a few thousand per month. depending on their expenses, they could definitely live of that money comfortable. at least i can with a minimum of $2000 per month. for others that do some designing work, writing, etc etc, as side job, it's totally different. for these people the earnings from side jobs are nothing more than an extra bit of income.
1651  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Microsoft stops accepting Bitcoin in Windows Store on: March 14, 2016, 10:37:07 AM
It's kinda microsoft's fault actually
1. They only accepted Bitcoin Payment from US customers only, how are bitcoin payment gonna be mainstream if they decided to limit who can use it and who cannot use it
2.No advertising, how people (especially those who never heard of bitcoin) Gonna be aware of bitcoin usage in their store if they never put any advertising or some sort, look up at their youtube channel, there are a lot of ads for windows 10 and lumia, but none of this service

I feel like Microsoft just sort of adopt bitcoin just for fun and no serious intention for it Tongue

exactly. my thoughts are the same here. what's the point of only allowing customers from a certain part of the world while they could make more sales if they enabled the people to pay with bitcoin everywhere around the world. and beside that. everything from microsoft is freaking expensive. people can buy the same stuff elsewhere for much less. i am definitely not surprised.
1652  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin go to $500 on: March 14, 2016, 10:31:31 AM
bitcoin today stands at 412USD and it is possible to be in figure 500 USD next month. a lot of positive sentiment occurred. there will be major changes to the bitcoin. the future of bitcoin is still long.

what is the positive sentiment that occured as you say? so far everything is the same as last year. the only sentiment i can think of is the block halving where people get so excited for.
1653  Economy / Speculation / Re: should i go 50/50 with gold and bitcoin? on: March 14, 2016, 10:27:40 AM
Its one of the best things you can do because the fact is that you can than make profit on both.
I would pick gold for a long term and bitcoin for a short term due to the halving.

with gold you're always making small profits if you compare it to bitcoin. bitcoin has a lot potential growth where the price may even reach a value of a few thousand per coin. with gold the profits are in the range of 10-50% where bitcoin can give you a minimum of 200-300% in the coming years.
1654  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never reach $700 again on: March 13, 2016, 04:26:50 PM
with bitcoin, nothing is impossible to happen. a $700 per bitcoin is not a high level that can not be reached at all. the price went up 100% at the end of last year so I think it will happen again after the halving and the price will break 700 next winter

I think so too, reaching even more than 700$ is pretty possible , talking about Bitcoin's price.And when we check the Bitcoin's price history we could assure that's really possible.

the previous high price levels were all due to the mtgox manipulations. i don't consider these prices to be real. every high that we reach now has much more value than the previous highs since mtgox is out of the picture. that's why when we reach $600 it is a more than great achievement.
1655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about Halving??? on: March 13, 2016, 11:03:08 AM
i do like the upcoming block halving as i think there will be a lot speculation that will drive the price up just before the halving takes place. other than the purpose of seeing the price go up the block halving is also good for the demand and supply levels. right now there is more supply than actual demand. the block halving will bring these levels closer to each other.
1656  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bad time to go long on: March 13, 2016, 10:22:47 AM
Bitcoiners are impatient by nature. They wait for a  while and it prices don't go up they panic and sell. Seem to be routine every so odd months. Then a hint of good news will wake them up again and the cycle continues. Happy leveraging !!

people are impatient throughout any market that allows them to make profit. i consider these people to be yolo investors. they just blindly invest in something they don't even know anything about. for example now with the upcoming block halving. every noob thinks that the price will rise "a lot" due to the block halving. they only don't seem to know (or maybe they don't want to know) that the price may also go down after the halving. i believe in a rise but i am realistic enough to know that it also can go down. i am prepared for any situation.
1657  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1 BTC = 1000$ in 2016 on: March 13, 2016, 10:16:23 AM
I think Bitcoin price will be arroud 350 to 400 after the halving, now ethereum is getting bigger and bigger.

i must admit. the ethereum pump is quite impressive with the gigantic volumes, but it won't last. it's just a matter of time before the ethereum price will come down to normal standards. the block halving will bring the price to anything higher than $500 the comming months.
1658  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: March 12, 2016, 02:12:34 PM
I am waiting for the price increase too. I don't care if it will be a bubble or a natural raise but it's better to ride the wave and get a profit than stay aside and watch the thing unravel without taking action.

well, you don't really care whether the price goes up natural or not. but a lot people are hoping for a more sustainable growth instead of the peaks that don't last long. if your only intention is to make profit, then the block halving will bring a lot volatility where you can profit from. these traders will have the time of their life.
1659  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2016, The Year of Bitcoin? on: March 12, 2016, 02:07:13 PM
2016, The Year of Bitcoin?
I really hope that this happens I plan to buy as many bitcoins as I can as soon as I can and ill only sell them at $1000

if you really plan to buy yourself some bitcoins then right now is a great moment to do it. the closer we are coming to the block halving, the higher the price will be. waiting will cost you extra money for the same amount of coins you could have bought at todays prices. act now and profit later.
1660  Other / Archival / Re: Should we sell btc? on: March 12, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
it is time to buy bitcoin, not to sell.
recently bitcoin has proven that nothing is going to shake it up and it is continuing strongly on its path towards higher prices and more adoption.

Atleast last week we are given the chance to buy in a bit lower price, and it seems like that bitcoin is really strong this time when it came back at $400, if this continues to be like this, I suggest that we should buy now, as the last low dip last week  might be the new floor..

I think the $400 will be the new floor. When the price drops, it rarely drop below that level for too long. The price will just bounce back.

even now we are advancing to the $420 levels, the support for $400 is still very weak. right now the price is $421 but it only takes around 765btc to dump the price to $405, and after that bots and traders will pull back their buy orders. then it's just a matter of another of 500-1000btc to get the price below $400 again. so, the $400 level is definitely not the floor.
i guess you are right, the price is high but very weak right now, people might just dump easily to under 400 dollars again

i hope this will not happen but at first in order to avoid it people have to build price walls before pumping the price even more

building up buy walls is not really the problem. as i also said in my previous post, these buy walls get pulled as soon as the price tends to go lower. real buy orders are very scarce nowadays. order books are filled with fake orders to make it look like it is very strong, but as soon as the price starts to come very close to these orders, everything will vanish making the orde book look empty.
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