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1721  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2021, 02:15:00 AM
...and it just keeps getting better!  Relief for hodlers!

https://scitechdaily.com/psychedelic-drug-psilocybin-magic-mushrooms-spurs-growth-of-neural-connections-lost-in-depression/

'In a new study, Yale researchers show that a single dose of psilocybin given to mice prompted an immediate and long-lasting increase in connections between neurons. The findings are published today (July 5, 2021) in the journal Neuron.
“We not only saw a 10% increase in the number of neuronal connections, but also they were on average about 10% larger, so the connections were stronger as well,” said Yale’s Alex Kwan, associate professor of psychiatry and of neuroscience and senior author of the paper.
Previous laboratory experiments had shown promise that psilocybin, as well as the anesthetic ketamine, can decrease depression. The new Yale research found that these compounds increase the density of dendritic spines, small protrusions found on nerve cells which aid in the transmission of information between neurons. Chronic stress and depression are known to reduce the number of these neuronal connections.'
1722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2021, 02:08:41 AM
This is HTVI, Happy TV International bringing you happy news from around the world 24 hours a day.


 https://www.sciencealert.com/bioengineered-human-livers-grown-from-skin-cells-successfully-transplanted-into-rats

Tiny Human Livers Grown in The Lab Have Been Successfully Transplanted Into Rats
PETER DOCKRILL3 JUNE 2020
"Scientists have successfully transplanted functional miniature livers into rats, after growing the bioengineered organs in the lab from reprogrammed human skin cells.
The experiment, which gave the animals working liver organs, could lay the groundwork for future treatments to address terminal liver failure – a disease that claims the lives of over 40,000 people in the US every year.
While there's still a lot of work to be done before the technique can directly aid human patients, the researchers say their proof of concept may help underpin a future alternative to liver transplants, which are often incredibly expensive procedures to perform, in addition to being strictly limited by donor supply..."


 I'll drink to that!!

EDIT:  Holy shit!  I just realized it said "tiny HUMAN livers...transplanted into rats"  WTF are they really working on?


1723  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: July 10, 2021, 01:10:51 AM

 Well that's much more practical than a Lambo.  You can't fit hardly any bitcoin miners in a Lambo!
1724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 08, 2021, 05:34:09 AM
After all, we're targeting 100% vaccination while only about 10% of the US population has tested positive for covid-19 and the mRNA technology is new and still experimental.

If you don't "trust" mRNA vaccines, then get one of the non-mRNA vaccines. In fact, most covid vaccines are non-mRNA.

 I can't.  My government thinks they're bad for me so now the only non-mRNA vaccine available here is AstraZeneca and only if you already received the first dose of it before it was put on hold.

Edit: just checked again and the only vaccines approved here are Pfizer and Moderna.  Jaansen was initially approved but even though we have 310k doses, they are not being released due to a quality control issue.
1725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Summer dip?!, December price outcome? ---> JOIN and guess the price GO! on: July 08, 2021, 05:28:22 AM
The price will be $64 935
Please explain how you got to this prediction, as requested by El duderino_:
I want to reach persons who cares to share there thinking reasoning, could be enjoyable for more people to read and maybe learn from... So to participate there must be somekind of effort why the price is chosen...

To participate there MUST be ......

Requesting - 225. $42,209.33 - $43,053.51
You need to predict a number, not a range. Also, I don't think posting just a graph qualifies for El duderino_'s request (see above). Please explain how you got to this prediction, and if you edit your post, make sure I don't overlook it (by sending me a PM).

$115,555
Sorry, this box is taken. Please try again (may I suggest a tad more bullish, the next box is still available). If you edit your post, please PM me so I don't overlook it.






 According to confirmed sources, maths and sciences, El duderino_ is going to give me $5000 US for winning this prediction game.  Therefore the price of bitcoin will have to be $64,935 on that day.

 Will this suffice? 
SOMA = Straight Out of My Abacus.
1726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 08, 2021, 04:48:52 AM
By the same token, just because a person has covid when they die, doesn't mean they died of covid.  It's portrayed in quite the opposite manner though; it IS a covid related death even though they may have died due to taking a shower.

That's a pervasive conspiracy theory but not really true in most cases. IIRC some states (Oregon?) at one point didn't separate deaths "from COVID-19" and "with COVID-19" but the discrepancy is minimal even if you extrapolated it to the whole country. Your own assertion that 10% of people tested positive combined with normal annual death rate (below 1%) shows that this would barely make a dent in the 600k number.

Okay, I realize people are dying with covid but excess deaths on a 5 year average which doesn't take into account shifting age demographics or increasing population doesn't show us anything that would help to answer the question I posed.  We know that around 600,000 people in the US have died while either confirmed positive with covid or considered a presumptive covid case so far - I am not questioning that.  I'm not denying that covid is real or bad.  My question was, how many lost years of life does that represent as compared to lost years of life due to the negative vaccine side effects on the entire population of earth + booster shots for the rest of our lives.  After all, we're targeting 100% vaccination while only about 10% of the US population has tested positive for covid-19 and the mRNA technology is new and still experimental.

Death rates are quite stable year to year except for events like swine flue and now COVID-19. CDC data on this is quite extensive so if you can find something there to support your hypothesis please share. I don't really see anything like that. Even if you take VAERS numbers as vaccine-caused deaths (gross exaggeration) it's still quite obvious that the vaccine dramatically (~ ten-fold) reduces the risk of death or complications from COVID-19 and that is true among all age groups. Why would anyone not take a lower chance of death over a higher chance is quite puzzling but that's the funky times we live in.

 The graph you showed us doesnt address the death rate.  It addresses 'excess' deaths by using the previous 5 year average and subtracting it from the current number of deaths.  On top of that, it divides the 'excess' deaths by the previous 5 years averaged deaths which amplifies the value even further and displays it as a percentage.
 When you consider an increasing population, if the death rate stays constant, you will have more deaths year over year anyway.  You amplify that difference by subtracting the previous 5 year average which will be lower because the population was lower and call it 'excess deaths'.  Now you take that number and divide it by the previous 5 year average deaths which again is lower because population was lower and you get an exaggerated value which is barely passible as a valid result.  It also captures the heatwave deaths from 2020 which were an anomaly compared to the average of the previous 5 years (though there was a heatwave in 2016).  These are the statistics that lie; the ones 4 out of 5 of our parents warned us about 90% of the time.  It's a crude measurement which is an indication that there might be something happening which warrants an investigation.  
 How do we explain the elderly group dipping into negative territory in early 2021?  I've already said that there are more elderly as a percentage of population and the population in 2020 was higher than the previous years as well.  Disregarding covid, we should see excess deaths in that period as well but we dont.  Does this mean the vaccines prolonged life beyond even pre-covid life expectations?  Have we found the Fountain of Youth in the form of an mRNA vaccine?  Maybe it means that spike in November we attribute to covid took out those who would have died 3 to 6 months later of something other than covid anyway but that's speculation and probably not something we would base our covid response on.

 It probably goes without saying but I think we've overreacted to the covid pandemic.  I'm sick of the travel bans and lockdowns, I'm appalled at the economic devastation we've caused and I resent being essentially jailed for the last 18 months only being allowed day parole to attend to my essential businesses' needs while carrying a special letter in case I get stopped outside of my curfew or standing outside in endless lines 6 feet apart yet still wearing a mask waiting to shop for basic needs.  Remember when the news of the pandemic first broke and people all over the world rushed to the stores to buy all the food they could and they eventually had to limit the sale of sanitizer and paper products to one per customer?  I wish we would periodically adjust our covid response as well.  I think we've all seen one too many zombie apocalypse movies... our political leaders included.

1727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 05:39:32 PM
Thanks, fellas, I will probably watch it.

 You know we're waiting for a full review, right?
1728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 05:32:02 PM
İf I dont want to take that vaccine then I dont want it. İt should be my choice.

Except for the part where you infect others.

The trouble is, loudest antivaxers tend to be loudest antimaskers and generally anti-everything that could stop the pandemic. If you just picked a lane and decided whether you want to be part of the society or sit holed up at home licking your hands instead of washing them after you poop, I would fully support your choice.



 Fortunately there aren't really that many of them.  If you've had your vaccine and continue to wear your mask and maintain that perfect distance between yourself and others you'll be fine(ish).  Once enough of us sheoples are vaccinated, we will achieve herd morality mentality mortality immunity (that's the word I was looking for!) and there'll be no need to harass the others who aren't like-minded with talk of poop-licking and the like.
1729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 05:18:26 PM
Wait!  I know it!  Global warming?!?

Or just go to Mars. Earth is shit anyway.

Seems better to figure out ways to live on earth, but whatever, several of you guys believing in better possibilities outside of earth should leave first so we can purge our lil selfies (as a species) of some of the fantasies.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Chartbuddy is back!

Richie T done with Bcash finally?

Richie is not really done with Bcash or those dumbass BIGblocker talking points, but he seems to kind of be coming around.. he's probably never going to completely normal, but who is?  especially in these here parts (didn't we call it "bat country" at some point?).

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

 Hey!  I have no plans to ever leave slip the surly bonds of earth.

 edit: Damn, it's been a long time since I read the poem. 
1730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 05:17:02 PM
VAERS reports say 5700 deaths post vaccine in the USA alone

I'm sure a lot of people die within 24 hours of taking a shower but that doesn't mean showers are deadly. Here is what VAERS site itself says about the data:

When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.

It's essentially an alert system for CDC to start investigating any potential issues. 5000+ people die in the US every day and with more than half of the population vaccinated most of those deaths will have occurred after a vaccination. That doesn't mean there is a causal link.

 Sure.  The data in VAERS is downplayed.  I supposed there must be another database maintained by the investigators after the VAERS reports are investigated but I haven't found it yet.
By the same token, just because a person has covid when they die, doesn't mean they died of covid.  It's portrayed in quite the opposite manner though; it IS a covid related death even though they may have died due to taking a shower.   

We won't know until the dust settles which deaths were more unacceptable.  Will the number of months of life saved using the vaccine be greater than the number of years of life lost by the same vaccine?  Since they're already talking about annual booster shots, this might be something we need to consider.  Maybe we'll never do the math because it could only ever be speculation on either side of the equation.

There is no need to speculate. Excess deaths - the number of deaths compared to prior years - tells the story.

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

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 Okay, I realize people are dying with covid but excess deaths on a 5 year average which doesn't take into account shifting age demographics or increasing population doesn't show us anything that would help to answer the question I posed.  We know that around 600,000 people in the US have died while either confirmed positive with covid or considered a presumptive covid case so far - I am not questioning that.  I'm not denying that covid is real or bad.  My question was, how many lost years of life does that represent as compared to lost years of life due to the negative vaccine side effects on the entire population of earth + booster shots for the rest of our lives.  After all, we're targeting 100% vaccination while only about 10% of the US population has tested positive for covid-19 and the mRNA technology is new and still experimental.
1731  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 02:32:39 PM
[...]

The first Brit to get vaccinated
...
dead within six months.

The first Canadian to get vaccinated
...
dead within six months

These cases are just noise. Isolated cases. If my neighbor wins the National Lottery, it doesn't mean everyone will win. But that's what people see, and they go and gamble their money away.

Currently, there are more than 1,500,000,000 fully vaccinated people (more than 3,000,000,000 doses administered) worldwide. Even if there are 1000 deaths that are provably caused by the vaccines themselves and no other illnesses, this is still a near-zero mortality rate (0.000067% to be precise).

Problem is, out of the 1,500,000,000 vaccinations, the mass media will say nothing about the 1,499,999,000 people who are healthy and protected, but they will be screaming 27/4 about the 1000 deaths.

If all vaccinated people die 6 months after getting the vaccine, there will be nearly a billion deaths by the end of the year. Not a long way away. We'll see...

 Sorry, it was a sneaky way to get a different discussion going.  The people dying in 6 months will be exactly as the ones I've shown because we vaccinated the most elderly first.  It's not the same as a lottery win to die at age 80+ in fact, it's pretty much the opposite.  Those two deaths above are not noise nor are they isolated cases. They were common age-related deaths which happen every day, everywhere and let's assume they had nothing at all to do with the vaccine.  Had they not gotten the vaccine, they might have contracted covid and died sooner but their deaths would have occurred, at most, 6 months earlier.  Vaccinated people are still getting covid and dying (still mostly elderly) while some people are dying from the vaccine at a very young age.  If we had listened to the vaccine companies when the first young people began to die from vaccine-related causes, there would most certainly have been more premature deaths due to the vaccines.  Some countries were quicker to act than others on banning certain vaccines or age-restricting their use.  We won't know until the dust settles which deaths were more unacceptable.  Will the number of months of life saved using the vaccine be greater than the number of years of life lost by the same vaccine?  Since they're already talking about annual booster shots, this might be something we need to consider.  Maybe we'll never do the math because it could only ever be speculation on either side of the equation.

 Mass media isn't screaming about the 1000 deaths!!  If they were, we would all know that it's more than 1000. (VAERS reports say 5700 deaths post vaccine in the USA alone) So no, they're fully onboard with the current vaccination program and they were instrumental at reporting the number of daily deaths "due to covid" without giving context.  However, those 1000 vaccine deaths (let's call that an accurate number) at an average age of 30 which has shaved an average of 50 years off of each life, equates to 600,000 lost months of life (worth screaming about I would say) which is the 6 month life extension granted to 100,000 elderly people who received the vaccine... we hope.  Of course we don't know if they would have lived longer than that 6 months had they not received the vaccine (Hank Aaron age 86 lasted only a few days post-vaccine but died of "natural causes" did he even need the vaccine?!  Was it really beneficial?) and there doesn't really seem to be a great interest in finding that out anyway.  I know, I know... long covid, right?  Well, what about long vaccine?  Does it only cause very premature death or a sore arm?  I find it hard to believe there aren't many other levels of debilitation in between those extremes.  We are slowly finding out that there other effects but each one is called "rare" and each one affecting a younger audience as they move their vaccine program toward our children and soon our babies.  It's fine to call 5 to 30 out of 1,000,000 rare but if you have multiple "rare" effects, at what point will we decide that the negative effects from the vaccine are not rare?  When we start getting annual boosters then it becomes 2X (rare+rare+rare+rare) and 3X (rare+rare+rare+rare+rare)... (no. of years you live)X((rare+rare+rare+rare+rare+rare+(any other newly discovered debilitating effect)).  They've already decided based on short term limited testing that the vaccines are safe and effective so until other problems present themselves, it's full speed ahead with the vaccine program.   New 'rare' potentially deadly side effects are only studied as they arise and only after it becomes painfully obvious that they are attributable to the vaccine and you can be guaranteed push-back from the vaccine companies who will initially claim "it's no more common with the vaccine than it is in the general population" until some German scientist shows causality and finds the mechanism of injury at which point they just become silent on the issue and keep producing the same vaccine.  This is the largest experimental vaccine program (maybe even the largest known science experiment) in the history of mankind.  We can only hope it ends well.

 I'm rambling... too much caffeine - that's another long story Smiley


1732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Summer dip?!, December price outcome? ---> JOIN and guess the price GO! on: July 07, 2021, 12:28:47 PM
SOMA

 The price will be $64 935 which puts me in box

 246. $63,975.26 - $65,254.76

 If it's not already taken.

 Thanks Mr .El duderino_!!

 
1733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 11:43:52 AM
On July 31, they may declare a default and the dollar will devalue

 Whatever you're talking about, a devalued dollar sounds bullish for bitcoin!

1734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 11:36:13 AM
[...]

As it comes to vaccines, i am not vxxed yet, because i am waiting for a certain vaccine (VLA2001) based on sterilized sars-cov-2 virus, which should be available in autumn and deliver the best protection with the lowest risk of negative health reactions, also for longer times (5-10 years). A classic vaccine, just entered 3rd trial phase. I can barely wait to see results.
Before i get the shot i want to do an antibody test as well, but avoid experimental vaccines like mRNA at all cost. In the face of the approaching "D-variant" (a.k.a. "delta mutation") wave, i'm a little under pressure.

Once i was into conspiracy theories a little too deep, i'm no more into that shit now for almost 20 years Cool

SHIT! I did the mRNA vaccine (the Pfizer variety, 2 doses done already)! I'm currently having a heated discussion about this issue with my cousin (the new coiner with 0.3 BTC), in which he is adamant that I made a grave mistake by having the mRNA vaccine, and will most likely die or suffer extremely serious health problems in under 6 months from now. Seriously, no joke! We even made a bet about it. He claims that by Q2 2022 about 1 billion people will have died of the mRNA vaccine. He bases his predictions on the claims by Robert Kennedy Jr.

Not really worried, but looking forward to the end of that 6-month period... Damn!  Shocked

At least he makes a testable prediction, lol.

Yeah, I told him that if I'm alive and well by March 2022, and no serious number of people (in the many thousands/millions) get really sick or die from mRNA vaccines, he should admit he was wrong and his ideas should collapse in deepest humiliation. Just sent the email, he will see it and maybe reply tomorrow.

I seriously think we may never speak again, at least in the coming weeks/months. He's really determined he's right and views anyone disagreeing with him as a fool living in a Matrix-like universe. No joke, I just spent an hour composing a long email to him -- a waste of time probably...

If you want to kill billions of people, why use a vaccine, why not make the virus much deadlier ? It would even work for the vaccine part of the conspiracy, since people would be desperate for any vaccine.

 If the virus is too deadly, it wont be able to spread rapidly enough to infect everyone for example, the most contagious disease known to us is the common cold (generally caused by the a rhinovirus) and we contract it an average of 4 times per year.  The benefit of using a mildly lethal and fairly contagious disease is that you can demonstrate enough infections causing death (which you can easily hype since very few people know the average annual mortality rate of their country but when presented with it will reel in shock1) to convince the masses to get vaccinated and absolutely control who gets the vaccine.

1 Average daily deaths from all causes in Great Britain for the 4 years pre-covid19 = 1661 per day

 In order to get the most people vaccinated before deaths become problematic for the program, you vaccinate the elderly first so when they begin to fall off, it doesn't seem suspicious at all because, well... they're old!

The first Brit to get vaccinated

dead within six months.

The first Canadian to get vaccinated

dead within six months

 
edit: I'm not trying to scare anyone, I just wanted to point out their plan for a mass culling seems to be coming along perfectly.
1735  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: July 07, 2021, 02:50:34 AM

Buddy is holding the fort up nicely. Keep ripping 32-36K

I liked the amazon movie.

A plot flaw which I will not mention at the moment for those that did not watch.

It is a B rating  which for free is okay.



 I watched the movie but I didn't think there was a plot flaw other than if we replace "alien species" with "global warming" we would realize quickly that the absolute BEST way to wage that war is by instituting a tax on alien species today to prevent them from proliferating in the future.
1736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 01:53:50 AM
That future war amazon flick with C. Pratt any good?

Very weak plot stretched to 2 hours. Ok, I still have 20 minutes left so maybe it gets magically brilliant before the end.

Wait!  I know it!  Global warming?!?

Or just go to Mars. Earth is shit anyway.

 I love earth; it reminds me of home.
1737  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 01:46:29 AM


That future war amazon flick with C. Pratt any good?

It was ok but there was a simpler solution to the entire issue.

But the simpler solution would have been boring and there would have been no action to watch. Smiley

 Wait!  I know it!  Global warming?!?
1738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2021, 01:24:49 AM
so, you think Bitmain+others control CCP and not the other way around?
I am sorry, i don't believe in the wall of money getting into bitcoin..heard about it since 2017.
"It ain't happening, man, it ain't happening" Prvt Hudson

BTW, how many times someone has to watch Tenet to fully understand it?
I kinda of get it...but sometimes the ends don't really meet (unsurprisingly).

That future war amazon flick with C. Pratt any good?

 I liked it.  Lots of action, lots of science and good CGI.  Usually, I figure out how a movie is going to play out early into it and ruin it for myself but this one kept me guessing until the end.

1739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 06, 2021, 06:01:06 PM
Today I don’t know which is more depressing

Belgium weather ups and downs
Belgium traffic
BTC sideways

Though only one is a longtime certainty for succes

 There's always Belgian chocolate for that Smiley
1740  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 06, 2021, 01:42:33 PM
What you're doing seems to be working nutildah! Don't stop 'til we hit 200k!
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