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1761  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 今日凌晨数十人okcoin的币和现金被盗走,有相同情况的人进来说说。急!ʌ on: December 14, 2013, 05:13:58 PM
关于你说的这些都是在企图推卸责任的借口吗?
目前你们表现出来的诚意就是这样?
首先大家都具有最起码的安全意识,我们帐户内都有几万甚至几十万以上的资金,
没有也不可能向任何人提供自己这么重要的帐号和密码信息,更加不会让人远程操控过电脑。
而且像谷歌这样的密钥有什么理由要让别人知道?
比较合理的解释就是你们网站出现重大漏洞,或者你们内部技术人员泄露了信息。
第二,在你们论坛出现像ok小王这种很明显企图骗取他人信息的帖子,你们反而熟视无睹?不封他的帐号删他的帖子?
莫非是你们故意让自己员工散步这类信息,制造有人套取信息的假象而为自己开脱?
你们现在再删已经没用,我们已经都截图留档。
第三,对于你们表现出来的态度和诚意让我们感到非常失望,所以我们只能联系各大电视,网络,报纸媒体为自己维权,
目前已有媒体已经和我们取得联系。
第四,我们所有人的损失加起来已经超过百万,你们不要天真的以为耍些小手段就能够瞒天过海,我们一定会追究责任到底!

那OK小王一直存在, 很難令人相信這不是故意的
1762  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 今日凌晨数十人okcoin的币和现金被盗走,有相同情况的人进来说说。急!ʌ on: December 14, 2013, 12:41:55 PM
okcoin竟然私下存了谷歌认证的私钥

這是必須的. 谷歌认证是對稱加密
1763  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 13, 2013, 03:19:39 AM
670XBT bought with 580k$. Some actions again
1764  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 12, 2013, 06:12:47 AM
Again, no bitcoin bought yesterday. People are scared away?

Men, the fund is only 6 weeks old. Things are progressing quite quickly IMO. They already have over $60 mil invested, which comes to about $10 mil a week!

But this week it is growing significantly slower than before
1765  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 12, 2013, 05:42:15 AM
Only 80XBT bought yesterday with 80k$.
1766  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 免费牛皮癣都看烦了,管理快来删贴吧! on: December 11, 2013, 05:45:49 AM
最好開一個專區吧
1767  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 11, 2013, 01:03:57 AM
Again, no bitcoin bought yesterday. People are scared away?
1768  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 10, 2013, 02:47:50 AM
Only 30XBT bought with 200k$. After the Chinese news and weekend crash people are sitting on the sidelines and watch

300?

Sorry, should be 30XBT with 20k$. Since the minimum investment is 250k$ I think this just rounding error
1769  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 10, 2013, 01:29:33 AM
Only 30XBT bought with 200k$. After the Chinese news and weekend crash people are sitting on the sidelines and watch

No bitcoin bought yesterday. The 30XBT is just rounding error. After the Chinese news and weekend crash people are sitting on the sidelines and watch
1770  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 07, 2013, 05:09:17 PM
About 400XBT bought with 0.37M$
1771  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: New paper: Accelerating Bitcoin's Trasaction Processing on: December 06, 2013, 06:23:18 PM
I am not sure if I get it correct, but I think we can implement it like this:

1. Let say there are two miners, Alice and Bob, finding blocks of the same height at almost the same time.

2. All miners see both blocks. However, some see Alice's block first, some see Bob's block first.

3. Those seeing Alice's block first will by default mine on top of Alice's block. However, they will also include Bob's block header in the coinbase. (The hash for the previous block could be omitted to save some space)

4. Those seeing Bob's block will similarly put Alice's block header in the coinbase.

5. No matter what the next block is building on, the header of the orphaned block is permanently and irreversibly recorded in the blockchain.

6. The total PoW of the chain should also count the orphaned blocks, given that they satisfy the difficulty. The actual content of the orphaned block is irrelevant since it is only used as a confirmation to the previous block.

There is a drawback: In case there is a fork, SPV nodes have to read the coinbases in order to determine the longest chain. With 1 second blocks that would mean tons of branches and SPV nodes may have some trouble.

I think it is quite workable. We may even implement it without changing the rules first, and see how it works out. It would help strengthening the network even if we keep the 10 minutes block
1772  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: December 06, 2013, 02:49:49 AM
About 980XBT bought with 0.98M$ on 5 Dec
1773  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Don't panic, China is NOT banning bitcoin on: December 05, 2013, 09:01:04 AM
The original announcement is here. I will translate it but please give me a few hours.

http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html

In order to protect the property rights and interests of the public, to protect the legal status of the Chinese yuan, to prevent money laundering risks, and to maintain financial stability, the People's Bank of China, Ministry of Information Industry, China Banking Regulatory Commission, China Securities Regulatory Commission, and China Insurance Regulatory Commission jointly issued a "Notice on guard against the risk of bitcoin".

The "Notice" clarifies the status of bitcoin. It states bitcoin is not issued by a monetary authorities and is not a mandatory legal tender, and therefore is not a real currency. By its nature, bitcoin should be a specific virtual commodity, and does not have the legal status of currency, cannot and should not be used as currency on the market. However, general public may trade bitcoin on the internet by taking their own risk.

The "Notice" requires, at this stage, financial institutions and payment institutions may not denominate product or service in bitcoin, may not trade bitcoin, may not act as a central counterparty in bitcoin trading, may not offer insurance product associated with bitcoin, may not provide direct or indirect bitcoin-related services to customers, including: registering, trading, settling, clearing services; accepting bitcoin  or use bitcoin as a clearing tool; trading bitcoin with CNY or foreign currencies; storing, escrowing, and mortgaging of bitcoin; issuing bitcoin-related financial instructments; using bitcoin as a investment target for trusts and funds.


TBC
1774  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bloomberg : BREAKING: China bans financial institutions from Bitcoin transaction on: December 05, 2013, 08:56:13 AM
Pulling it through google translate, it ain't great news.
- Business and Financial instruments banned from bitcoin


This is COMPLETELY wrong. It only targets financial institutions, i.e. banks, insurance companies, etc.

What remains then ?! Its banned and its not a currency .

People can still trade and spend bitcoin. Exchanges will be regulated, not banned. ONLY financial institutions can not touch it.

People can trade it so what , so Bitcoin is just a speculative instrument ? What happens to mass adoption ? What happens to China lead ? What happens to a world currency ?

It is only financial institution can't involve bitcoin. Other business like Starbucks can accept it
1775  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bloomberg : BREAKING: China bans financial institutions from Bitcoin transaction on: December 05, 2013, 08:52:37 AM
Pulling it through google translate, it ain't great news.
- Business and Financial instruments banned from bitcoin


This is COMPLETELY wrong. It only targets financial institutions, i.e. banks, insurance companies, etc.
Sorry my Chinese ain't great and Google is still rusty in its translation.
Do I understand your comment correctly then that business can still accept bitcoin for products?

1. People have freedom to trade bitcoin at their own risk

2. Financial institutions and payment processors cannot offer bitcoin-related service

3. Other business are not mentioned. Based on the previous 2 points, I can't see why Starbucks can't accept bitcoin.
1776  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bloomberg : BREAKING: China bans financial institutions from Bitcoin transaction on: December 05, 2013, 08:49:11 AM
Pulling it through google translate, it ain't great news.
- Business and Financial instruments banned from bitcoin


This is COMPLETELY wrong. It only targets financial institutions, i.e. banks, insurance companies, etc.

What remains then ?! Its banned and its not a currency .

People can still trade and spend bitcoin. Exchanges will be regulated, not banned. ONLY financial institutions can not touch it.
1777  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 中国人民银行等五部委发布《关于防范比特币风险的通知》 on: December 05, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
不過就是說銀行等金融机构和支付机构不得參與bitcoin活動, 其它人都有自由參與. 交易平台要備案, 反洗黑錢. 我覺得很正面吧?
1778  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bloomberg : BREAKING: China bans financial institutions from Bitcoin transaction on: December 05, 2013, 08:44:05 AM
Pulling it through google translate, it ain't great news.
- Business and Financial instruments banned from bitcoin


This is COMPLETELY wrong. It only targets financial institutions, i.e. banks, insurance companies, etc.
1779  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bloomberg : BREAKING: China bans financial institutions from Bitcoin transaction on: December 05, 2013, 08:42:18 AM
http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2013-12-05/15538979079.shtml

No. You Western guys completely misunderstood the news. To me, this is actually BULLISH!

TL;DR, the document says:

1. Bitcoin is a virtual commodity, not a real currency

2. People have the freedom to trade bitcoin, but they need to take their own risk

3. At this stage, financial institutions cannot denominate services and products in bitcoin, cannot trade bitcoin, cannot run bitcoin exchange, cannot provide bitcoin related services, cannot store bitcoin for clients, cannot establish bitcoin trust or fund, etc.

4. Bitcoin exchanges must be registered, and follow AML and KYC rules

This means major Chinese bitcoin exchanges like BTCChina will stay. You just won't see any Chinese bitcoin ETF anytime soon.
1780  Other / Meta / Change the name of "Development & Technical Discussion" board on: December 05, 2013, 04:13:44 AM
There are so many off-topics discussion on this board and it seems the mods are tired of cleaning it up. I think changing its name to "Bitcoin Protocol Discussion" would help a little bit
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