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1841  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Majority of investors are quitting, what are you doing? on: June 14, 2023, 11:02:40 AM
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Majority of investors are quitting, what are you doing?

How did you come to that conclusion? It doesn't seem to me that most give up, but those who don't understand the rules of the game and think that someone will ban Bitcoin have always been weak hands anyway. If it's just those who have invested in altcoins, then I wouldn't worry too much, because if you invest in something that doesn't make sense or purpose sooner or later something bad is waiting around the corner.

I've already witnessed moments when people are a bit desperate and waiting for some big pump, but if they haven't learned by now that they shouldn't hope for it before halving, then they'll probably never learn.
1842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Nations League final four ⚽ on: June 14, 2023, 10:44:46 AM
Which website do you check the news of the Croatian team?
In my opinion, the line-up is great, with no surprises and with players that are used to play with each other

I used one local source, and if you want to read today's article and you have no problem translating the article this is the source. Of course, the final line-up will be known only before the game, but in my opinion the only doubts are about the players who should replace Gvardiol, where suddenly there is talk of a veteran Vida who should get a chance instead of Erlic.

Of course, it's all part of the game before the game, so you shouldn't expect it to be just as it is presented by the media.
1843  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: My worries with ledger on: June 14, 2023, 10:26:58 AM
@Synchronice, If people didn't react appropriately when hundreds of thousands of personal information leaked from their company, I don't think most people care if their seed is put at risk at some point. Unfortunately, in the thinking of one of their average clients, this famous recovery is perhaps even something positive, especially for those who believe that Bitcoin should be insured in the way that their fiat deposits are insured in banks.

For those who understand the difference between fiat and Bitcoin, of course, this does not make sense, but for those who are only there for profit and do not care too much about their privacy and security, it all comes down to how skillfully something is presented to them.
1844  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] whirlwind.money | Redefining Mixing | Signature Campaign ~Up to $150/week on: June 14, 2023, 06:45:15 AM
~snip~
Same mindset remains regarding possible new participants. Keep applying if you are a prominent member or a previous Chipmixer participant.

I can't say if I'm a prominent member, but I've been a CM participant for over three years. This campaign seems to have very strict criteria Wink
1845  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much ,as you think ,is 1 bitcoin in 2025? on: June 13, 2023, 02:20:08 PM
I think those two users are likely going to be right with their prediction. We're barely two years away from 2025 and already the second speculation of what 1 Bitcoin could buy is fulfilled. At the last ATH in 2021, a single Bitcoin could buy that seaside apartment.

I wouldn't agree that for $69k you can buy any top-grade apartment in some attractive location. It may be possible in some countries with very low standards, but if you come to the EU (especially the western part), you will be happy that for that money you can literally buy a garage.

However, since these are the people who had this discussion 10 years ago, I have no doubt that some of them took advantage of early adopters and enjoy their dream houses.
1846  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: My worries with ledger on: June 13, 2023, 01:34:08 PM
The next big scandal will be this: Breaking news! Ledger Recover data leak! Millions of users lost their coins.

Assuming that millions will use this option, which in my opinion is somewhat unrealistic to expect, although Pascal and comrades obviously expect at least 100 million users to appear from somewhere who will be "intelligent" enough not only to buy their HW, but also to share their seed + KYC with companies they have never heard of.

It is amazing that after all the time BTC has existed, some people for quite evident financial reasons are starting to promote custodial services implying that the average man is incapable of being his own bank. If nothing else, if (when) the next scandal happens, at least we will be able to say that we warned people not to use such options, and that the HW itself of this manufacturer is not something they should trust.
1847  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My first post on: June 13, 2023, 11:07:59 AM
It works when you request a new image but refreshing doesn't

I think that's how it should be and I don't see a problem with that. What can be a problem is that reCaptcha can sometimes be really annoying and constantly asks you to solve the new captcha, and this happens if you use a VPN or TOR. Luckily, the forum offers the option to log in without a captcha, and all you have to do is click on the link "If you have persistent difficulties with the CAPTCHA, go here after logging in." and then you can log in without solving the captcha.

Of course, in that case you need to keep that link safe, because someone malicious could use it to brute force your login data, and the captcha just serves to disable/slow down this process.
1848  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many bitcoin foundation founders does it take to rob a bitcoin founder? on: June 13, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
This is definitely an interesting story and I have to admit that I didn't go so deep into what happened with Mt.Gox, but all of this that is stated in the article looks like the script of a crime movie. All of the above, the operation was managed by the Russians, and they were helped by greedy Americans such as Roger Ver and Charlie Shrem, and there is no shortage of corrupt FBI agents who wanted to grab some of the loot for themselves.

I hope that the investigation will produce some results and that those who have not yet been in prison will receive appropriate sentences, even though sleazebags like Reger Ver always somehow escape justice or get a minimum sentence.
1849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Nations League final four ⚽ on: June 13, 2023, 10:16:31 AM
~snip~
I'm still betting on Croatia anyway, and I think this match has good chances of extra time  Cheesy

It's hard to get away from the impression that Croatia will play again in a way that they will try to go in extra time or even take penalty kicks, but it is much safer for me to bet that both teams will score, and that there will be at least 3 goals in the game. That offer is paid around 2.55 at my local bookmaker.

According to announcements coming from the Croatian team, head coach Dalic is preparing an offensive line-up that should include Luka Ivanusec (Dinamo ZG), and it is mentioned that Domagoj Vida could play instead of Erlic, although I hope that he will not play from the beginning. Vida is a real lion, but the years have done their thing and he's not as fast as he used to be.

Possible line-up of Croatia :

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Livaković - Juranović (Stanišić), Vida, Šutalo, Perišić - Modrić, Brozović, Kovačić - Pašalić, Kramarić, Ivanušec.
1850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Nations League final four ⚽ on: June 12, 2023, 03:39:25 PM
The Netherlands - Croatia will be a match that I think is about 50-50, but Croatia is missing a strong Croatian defender who managed to play a great World Cup in Qatar.

Unfortunately, Croatia will have to play without Josko Gvardiol, who failed to heal the injury despite all efforts. His place will be filled by Martin Erlic, who at this point seems to be the only logical choice.

This is definitely bad news for Croatia because the defense will lose perhaps its most important player with the absence of Gvardiol.
1851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why People Still Gamble? on: June 12, 2023, 03:03:57 PM
There's no big mystery, people gamble for fun or because they think it's how they can make money. The former are not a problem because they do it occasionally, and thus do not significantly affect their finances and the lives of their families. Those who think they can profit from the game and still do not know how to control themselves are a problem for themselves and society, because every addiction creates abnormalities.

I can't say how to deal with the problem of gambling, but I think that the one who enables gambling should take more responsibility and recognize the addict and prevent him from gambling, and also offer him free psychological help. Ignoring a problem always just creates an even bigger problem, and then it's very difficult to help people.
1852  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Lost 2.03 BTC via bitcoinpaperwallet.com Am I wasting my time trying to recover? on: June 12, 2023, 01:57:45 PM
You said it right but it's better to have it on a hardware wallet when you've got around 2+ BTC as that's a lot of money already considering the price of bitcoin.
~snip~

Old habits die hard, but we need to get used to the fact that not everything is as we have been told for years when it comes to hardware wallets. Of course, I refer to the situation with Ledger, but the other popular HW manufacturer has some strange business decisions in their company.

In other words, we need to start dealing with security in the right way and not trust unconditionally anyone, especially large companies that seem to be susceptible to outside influences.
1853  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: new Electrum phishing site on: June 12, 2023, 01:33:19 PM
Reporting to Google is waste of time from my experience but it's a good practice. Reporting to the hosting company works better especially I found Namecheap always takes such reports seriously.

Unfortunately, I have to agree that this is true, although a few years ago, it worked well and in 2-3 days the reported site was blocked. I don't know what happened, but Google has obviously changed something in its policy towards phishing reports, or it just has too many reports, or they fired those who dealt with it.

On the other hand, I have never had success with reports to hosting companies, but I definitely think that they should do a lot more to combat phishing. Obviously, they don't care too much either, because it is important to charge for the service, and if someone reports abuse, they still profited with the fact that they no longer have to provide the service.
1854  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: new Electrum phishing site on: June 11, 2023, 02:59:01 PM
And to use uBlock Origin extension on your browser. In my experience, changing your search engine into a more privacy oriented one could help as well in avoiding these phishing sites appearing on your browser.

Adblockers are useful because they are primarily blocking the ads that appear at the top of the search, which is the first protection line for those who do not pay attention to details. If you go to a phishing location stated in the OP with uBlock it will not have any difference, you will still be able to visit that site.

What can have a preventive effect is certainly to report phishing site to Google (it can be made directly from some browsers - a report of the deceptive site) or to a hosting company. The only problem with phishing is that such pages appear in large numbers, and that means when you stop one, at least five new ones pop up.
1855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Casinos Include The Sport Spogomi In Their Platform on: June 11, 2023, 02:17:09 PM
To me, this activity does not seem like a sport but a kind of activity that aims to remove garbage from public surfaces, but in a way to do so in a competitive spirit. I don't see how such a "sport" could get involved in something that offers online casinos. As far as I can see from the rules, the garbage is collected in the designated area, and I do not think it would be difficult to manipulate the amount of garbage and the collection way.

Maybe this "sport" is now honest, but if people start betting on who will collect as much garbage as possible, then we will have fixed games and manipulations like in all other sports.
1856  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Biden administration will kill Bitcoin! Says Ron DeSantis. on: June 11, 2023, 01:28:12 PM
~snip~
Is Ron DeSantis right about his comments or wrong?

He is completely right to comment on the way he wants it because he has entered the fight for the president, and in this fight they do not choose a way or means. It is fascinating to me that people ask themselves such questions at all, because why is it important who is the president, if we know that the US policies produce characters in recent decades that would be more appropriate for something completely different than to be the president.

The current US president is one big joke, the previous one was a belligerent fanatic, and what to say about one that reward Nobel prize to himself...

Plus, they say that DeSantis is not one who wears pants in the family, if you understand me. I wonder what he was thinking about at that moment Roll Eyes


1857  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Lost 2.03 BTC via bitcoinpaperwallet.com Am I wasting my time trying to recover? on: June 11, 2023, 10:58:21 AM
If you have time and you are a person who does not give up easily, then I suggest that you report the whole matter to the police, and it would be good if you try to determine where your BTC ended up (if at all possible) in order to maybe be able to detect the person behind everything. I'm not saying that the chances of you succeeding are high, but if that scammer has scammed a lot of people and if a large number of those people do the same as you, it is possible that someone will be interested in trying to solve the case.

On the other hand, if you don't do anything, you've admitted defeat and all that will only be an expensive lesson for the future. Whoever is behind it surely hopes that you will do the latter.
1858  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is ahead is very dangerous on: June 11, 2023, 10:41:00 AM
With each new day, scammers get more and more opportunities to profit from human ignorance and greed, and at the moment I don't see any quick and easy way to prevent them from doing so. For all those who can't resist all those "lucrative offers" I can only advise to be extremely careful, and I would also agree with @Upgrade00 that the best way to protect yourself is to not deal with such things.

The Internet is something that offers countless possibilities, but in addition to the good things, it also has its bad side, which is full of lies and deceptions that lead to where no one wants to end up. Unfortunately, cryptocurrencies (and by that I mean altcoins and NTF) are a perfect tool for all those who have bad intentions, and there are a lot of them online.
1859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga 2022./2023. on: June 10, 2023, 02:41:32 PM
I must admit that so far I have not seen big football names coming to Dinamo this summer, but that is why it seems that the key and best players of Dinamo could leave the club this summer.
~snip~

And when did you see that Dinamo ZG was bringing big football names? Their way of doing business is to buy relatively unknown players for relatively little money, and then if they are lucky, they sell them for at least ten times the price in a few years. What is the "problem" now is that there is no longer a chief operative who had a good nose for work, and regardless of the reputation they have, the young forces of Dinamo are far from being successful businessmen.

In addition, internal calculations are still ongoing in the club, and as I hear, several other employees were recently fired because they were identified as players of the former boss.
1860  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto experienced bloodshed on: June 10, 2023, 02:15:11 PM
~snip~
What do you think of your friends to take advantage of situations like this, is it now the right time to buy a few coins?

If you're referring to all those altcoins that are sinking, then I don't see how it would be wise to invest in something that has the possibility of disappearing from most of the main CEX - which means that it will be worth (probably) even less than it is the case today. However, if someone wants to take the risk and thinks that the situation will turn in their favor, let them gamble, because altcoins have always been more of a gamble than a serious investment.

In particular, some tokens that have been registered as securities by SEC have been devastated

You ask a question, and at the same time you gave an answer - Bitcoin is not a security for the SEC, and thus it does not go into the same category as all those altcoins you mention. For those who refuse to accept reality all these years, it seems that they will accept it the hard way.
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