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1561  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: My Trading Tools (120% APY) on: July 15, 2023, 02:09:29 PM
Maybe I'm old-fashioned and trading isn't something I'm good at (day trading), but if I bought 1 BTC in 2015 for $250 and sold it for about $50 000 after 5+ years, how much money did I make each year? Some will say "where's the excitement in that?", but I wonder if some people are trading for profit or something else?

OP may be one of those 5% who are not greedy and has a plan to slowly achieve their goals, but tools themselves do not generate profit, I guess that is clear to everyone.
1562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitconnect : learning from the past. How is it possible to invest life savings ? on: July 15, 2023, 01:28:54 PM
I didn't understand why people were so trustfull in staking for so long. Then I didn't understand how you could put your life's savings into a single cryptocurrency (unless it is bitcoin, that's my opinion).

I don't understand how someone can invest their entire life savings in anything, and that includes Bitcoin. Because although Bitcoin from an investment perspective looks very promising, the future has always been and will be uncertain, and therefore diversification is something that only makes sense.

And yet it's happening all over again. People don't seem to learn from the past.

Only intelligent people learn from other people's mistakes, others choose the hard way and learn from their own mistakes, but that's something we can't change. This is something that works for scammers, because they prosper precisely because of such people and the fact that today anyone can "invent" cryptocurrency, list it on some CEX and claim that this is the next big thing.
1563  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Monochrome CEO Jeff Yew files for ETF - Positive about the result on: July 15, 2023, 10:57:12 AM
Maybe this is news that may interest someone in Australia, but globally I don't see that it can have any significant impact on the rest of the world. According to LinkedIn, it is a relatively small company with only 14 employees - and the data on employees on their official site and on LinkedIn do not even match - pretty unprofessional for someone who's investing and managing someone else's assets.



~snip~
With various financial institutes applying for the ETF, I think we have amazing days ahead in the future as many countries and regulatory bodies will finally accept the fate of Bitcoin ETF.

Maybe you're mistaken in your vision of what would happen in that case - because every spot BTC ETF is actually custodial service and increasing centralization, and a growing departure from what Bitcoin should actually be. Of course, the average small investor just wants a higher price, and he thinks that this will be achieved by large investors starting to buy large amounts of BTC, but this game is a two-blade sword.
1564  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do I avoid and identify scams? on: July 15, 2023, 10:23:47 AM
It seems to me that many see cryptocurrencies as some kind of easy way to profit and in some rare cases it can really happen, but in 9 out of 10 cases the ones who will profit are the owners of these projects and a narrow circle of people around them. But in order for them to profit, they have to successfully "sell" the idea and dump mostly premined coins at the right moment and take the money of all those suckers who got caught on the hook.

It's a game of cat and mouse, only the mouse gets the short end of the stick almost every time and I don't find it particularly interesting so I decided not to play that game a long time ago. Of course, it's not up to me or anyone else to tell others what they're going to do with their money, but if you're already investing in various crypto projects, be aware that most of them are pump&dump schemes, and that means you need to have the perfect entry and exit if you want to profit.
1565  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Bitcoin Mixer | BTC Tumbler | Anonymous | NO LOGS | NO JS on: July 15, 2023, 09:49:43 AM
No problem, it's online.

You're down again, both versions - with clearnet showing the error "SSL handshake failed". Maybe you should first find reliable hosting + properly configure everything necessary and only then try to deal with this kind of business Wink
1566  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Bitcoin Mixer | BTC Tumbler | Anonymous | NO LOGS | NO JS on: July 14, 2023, 02:46:45 PM
It looks like the site is now offline, both the clearnet and Tor Mirror. Someone please confirm, who knows? It could just be me.

I confirm that the site is offline (both versions). Maybe OP decided to fix some things, and maybe he realized that the mixer isn't something that just can work like that. Luckily, the choice of mixers is more than good, one more or less does not mean too much.
1567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2023, 02:28:24 PM
~snip~
The day isn't far when we will be seeing Bitcoin price above $40k or even above $50k, and those who are holding their Bitcoin will finally is rewarded for their patience. I love Bitcoin because it doesn't pumps like other shit-coins, and that's why it's far more safer than those shitty-coins.

Finally rewarded? I've been rewarded every day since 2014 when I got my first satoshi Wink
1568  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Important information about the forum on: July 14, 2023, 01:15:06 PM
I don't understand what these new breeds are really up to...
Now this is just another crappy massage from someone that doesn't even know Thier left from right... Haven't you seen those informations already on 'em Sticky post?? What's the point of the tautology?

~snip~

We've all been beginners once and most of us have acted like OP, and if you go back to your beginning and the first post you can see that you also didn't do very well on the forum at the beginning. Sticky threads existed then, as they do today, right?

Hi everyone, i have a trusted business partner that introduced me to bitcoin few years ago,since i was so keen about these digital currency, he had to introduce me to these great forum.
Please,do you have standards or rules kinda?
Just show me around,so delighted to be here
1569  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin - The road to a SIX DIGIT price valuation on: July 14, 2023, 12:44:37 PM
~snip~
OK, so the Giga-Chads have already opened a debate about the issue.

There's also another shower thought that I brought up before. What if the banksters and institutions like BlackRock hold more than 50% of the Bitcoin in circulation, and increasing. Could be say that Bitcoin as a currency has failed?

Bitcoin will always remain available to ordinary people even in the event that someone owns 50% or more coins, and that means that the idea on which Satoshi designed the whole thing will still exist. As for the question of whether Bitcoin has failed as a currency, it's highly debatable, but I believe we can agree that most people don't perceive it that way.

It remains to be seen what effects the possible spot BTC ETF will produce (short-term or long-term), but I personally hope that there will always be a certain percentage of people who will follow Satoshi's vision and will not deviate from the basic ideas - which means that Bitcoin will always represent what it represents today.
1570  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Europe: The real Bitcoin and Blockchain superpower? on: July 13, 2023, 03:03:26 PM
It seems to me that the author has overlooked a lot and that the US in terms of everything related to cryptocurrencies, and especially Bitcoin, is a much bigger superpower than Europe, especially if we consider only EU members. For my country, which has been a member of the EU for more than 10 years, there is no data at all for some reason, although the tax laws are similar to those in Germany (0% after 2 years), and physical crypto transactions up to 1000 EUR do not require KYC.

Besides, does Europe have any companies similar to Microstrategy, Grayscale or even Coinbase? Only BlackRock and Fidelity have produced more articles and videos in the last month than the whole of Europe produces in the whole year when it comes to cryptocurrencies (at least that's my impression).
1571  Economy / Services / Re: I Need Someone Who Can Send And Receive Payments with Paypal on: July 13, 2023, 02:18:34 PM
Maybe we forgot something in this whole story, which is that OP gets BTC or some altcoin, and whoever receives payments to his PP must take into account that he can at any time be asked by PP to prove the legitimacy of the money and additional verification. There is also the question of paying taxes, because regardless of the fact that it is a US-based service, other countries can ask for (and get) data about their citizens who use this service.

All that for 10% or maybe 15% doesn't seem attractive to me at all.
1572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: wBTC and BTC on: July 13, 2023, 01:38:09 PM
Where did you see wBTC at $20k? That would be a great arbitrage opportunity since you can still unwrap it (redeem/burn) for real BTC onchain. Cheesy

I guess he saw that information in WO because he is active there, and someone posted today that this token has been in a bit of a problem in the last 7 days. Honestly, I don't pay attention to any variations (forks) of BTC, not even to this wrapped version.
1573  Economy / Economics / Re: I want to get spot bitcoin ETF news directly from the SEC on: July 13, 2023, 11:09:29 AM
I want to know the exact second that SEC would approve bitcoin spot ETF directly. I do not want it to be what I will read on the crypto new later after people would have bought and the price would have increased. Although there is more to bitcoin spot ETF because more people will invest and bitcoin marketcap may not get below trillion of dollar ever again.

How can I get the news directly from the SEC in a matter of a second? Is it through their website or which news?

To find out classified information before others, you must have a source within the SEC, which means you have to get a job at that agency or you have to find a way to become friends with Uncle Gensler Grin

Now seriously, I take it you think that the possible approval of spot BTC ETF might cause bull run, but somehow it doesn't seem to me that it's wise to wait for that very moment when you can practice the DCA method today and prepare for that moment. When (if) this happens, you should count on many people to want to react like you, and that means that most CEX could go offline under pressure from clients, and fees could go skyrocketing.

However, it should be taken into account that after this news the market will react positively, but also that it will not be long-lived because who can say with certainty that large investors will really invest billions in such a fund?

Examples from some other countries where such an ETF exists have shown that large investors are not too enthusiastic about it, although we can hardly compare such a market in Canada with that in the US.
1574  Economy / Speculation / Re: The ideal price of bitcoin is $557,714.00 on: July 13, 2023, 10:10:07 AM
~snip~
But gold is always mined every day and the amount will always increase. While bitcoin is decreasing in number from day to day. Nonsense that bitcoins total 21 million. Bitcoin is not up to 21 million, many people have lost their wallet keys

So, for now maybe just for fun, but for the next 50 or 100 years? Who knows

Gold also has other applications besides storing value, but the truth is that it has unlimited supply, of course, if we take into account that it exists outside our planet and that some estimates say that it will be technically and economically profitable to mine it in about fifty years.

As for BTC max supply, it is true that it is set to 21 million and that part of it is currently or even irretrievably lost, but it is also true that in the future there may be a consensus to increase this number, because it is only about code which can be changed at any time. People change with time, so what was incomprehensible to people 50 years ago is now a commonly accepted thing in society.

Not to be misunderstood, I am not in favor of such radical changes and I think that max supply should remain just as it is, but will some people think the same in 50 or 100 years?
1575  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I got scammed by Freewallet.org for 120000 USDT TRC20. SCAM alert!  Don't use th on: July 13, 2023, 09:36:38 AM
$120k is not peanuts and you didn't do your homework. This is going to leave a mark in your finances.
It's my entire salary for a whole year here in my country...
~snip~

If you have a salary of as much as $10 000 a month many on this forum would envy you and wonder what exactly you do for that money - and you still have time to participate in sig campaigns - a great success Grin

Who knows, maybe OP earns twice as much as you, so that loss won't be too much of a problem for him Undecided
1576  Other / Archival / Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️ on: July 13, 2023, 09:14:05 AM
I recently joined this campaign and it was logical to test how their service works. I have to admit that the mixing method that this mixer provides is really unique because the coins we get after mixing are not part of those coins that users send to the mixer, but they should be coins that come from other sources (exchanges). Therefore, such coins should not be marked as tainted when we use them in further transactions.

As for the mixing process itself, I tried the free mixing of 0.001 BTC and the process is quite simple as with most mixers. After a while I received an identical amount in my wallet and I have no objection to that.

What I noticed is that there is no special page for free mix, and this may confuse some users since the final page contains the following warning "Please send your bitcoins (min 0.003, max 50 BTC) to the address".

In addition, this warning does not look correct if we take into account what the FAQ says regarding the minimum amount, and there it says "Q - What is the minimum amount of funds for cleansing? A - 0.005 BTC".

Another thing I noticed is that there is no change on the mix link when the transaction is confirmed and sent, but it still reads the message "A transaction is detected, the sum is 0.001 BTC, awaiting confirmation".



Of course, all these are things that do not affect the process that happens in the background and that do not affect the end result. I hope that [banned mixer] will continue to develop its unique mixing methods and provide all clients with the best premium experience.
1577  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2023, 02:19:34 PM

1578  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I got scammed by Freewallet.org for 120000 USDT TRC20. SCAM alert!  Don't use th on: July 12, 2023, 01:44:50 PM
Just when you think these scammers are finally gone, a new case arises, and I have to admit it with a pretty large amount. It doesn't make sense to repeat what others have already written, but it's definitely strange that someone who obviously doesn't understand even the basics invests as much as $120k in a way that chooses an intermediary with such a disastrous reputation.

However, such an amount would activate red flags on any CEX, and I am sure that the account would be blocked until verification was made - with the difference that it would happen within some reasonable time, while Freewallet has a modus operandi consisting of endless requirements that few can meet.

Given where the company is registered, I'm surprised there hasn't already been a joint lawsuit because there are hundreds or maybe even thousands of people to whom this has happened.
1579  Economy / Speculation / Re: The ideal price of bitcoin is $557,714.00 on: July 12, 2023, 01:16:03 PM
The number of people on earth = 8,000,000,000 [2022] ~ source

The number of bitcoins divided by the number of people on earth
21.000.000 : 8,000,000,000 = 0.002625 btc

The number of gold divided by the number of people on earth
244.000.000 : 8,000,000,000 = 0.0305 kg

Let's say that these calculations of yours are more fun/informative than serious thinking, because no matter how you look at things, 8 billion people in that calculation does not make sense, because everyone will never use BTC, even if everyone miraculously has access to the internet, how many are under the age of 10 or under 18?

In general, it is a bad assumption that all people on Earth want or need to use something, and all the data we have suggests that from 2009 to date less than 5% of people have been involved with Bitcoin in some way. What I'm saying is that most people will never use Bitcoin, but also for many, gold is just a decoration and nothing more than that.
1580  Economy / Services / Re: Want to hack some websites' Cpanel on: July 12, 2023, 11:01:41 AM
Can you explain how there is nothing illegal about wanting to have unauthorized access to other people's sites? I'm really interested in how the legality of hacking websites is justified.

Maybe OP comes from a society where private property and hacking are viewed in a completely different way, and over the years I have had the opportunity to see people on this forum who have behaved in such a way. Plagiarism is one way of stealing, but there are a lot of users who still do it and think there's nothing wrong with it.
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