I can't say if this BTT account is used by two people, but this only casts more doubt on the whole story. Accordingly, no one should so easily accept that the story is true, much less donate anything or share the story anywhere outside of this forum.

At the end of the day, does it make sense to give someone something that they clearly cannot/doesn't know how to take care of?

As I already wrote, it is something that you can definitely blame them for, but it still does not lead to anything because there is no element of scam, considering that you lost your deposit in a completely normal way by gambling at an online casino.

Be that as it may, you cannot ask for someone to give you back 1 BTC just because you think that they lured you to gamble in that online casino, you lost and come to terms with it. Next time, be more thorough in checking the casino before you make a deposit, so if you lose again, at least you won't have to feel scammed.

I agree, violence and anger do not have to be related exclusively to gambling addiction, but can also be the result of some of the other addictions you mentioned. In order to prevent such things, it is necessary to prevent people who are minors from having the opportunity to gamble, which is much easier to do in physical casinos, while online casinos still cannot see who is on the other side, and even when they ask for KYC, a minor can use the documents of his family member or friend to verify the account.

Unfortunately, the situation described by the OP is very serious and cannot be solved by itself, because such things only get worse if the person does not get adequate help. Gambling is supposed to be fun, and the moment it stops being, everyone has a problem which should not be ignored at all.

I don't see any scam in the fact that you lost 1 BTC gambling, only to find out later that your country is on the black list, and then you thought what would happen if you made a profit. We can only guess what would happen then, but who says that you wouldn't be able to get at least your deposit back?

What is by no means disputed is the fact that that casino did not warn potential players from your country in a very clear way that they cannot open an account at their casino.

I'm just wondering if you created your account using the IP of your country, or maybe you used a VPN?

The posts on this forum cannot be taken into account exclusively when it comes to trying to understand the reason why Satoshi left the forum, and for some time (allegedly more than 1 year) he was in contact with some developers after he wrote the last forum post. In addition, history tells us that some very close associates of Satoshi at one point took a very negative attitude towards him and demanded more "decentralization".

Source

Of course, for all those who want to know the real history, which is very likely the closest to the truth, everything can be found in perhaps the best article written on the subject, which also has direct links to all relevant links. Satoshi logically decided to leave/disappear after everything, because when the majority attacks you and doesn't agree with your decisions, what else is left for you?


The Last Days of Satoshi: What Happened When Bitcoin’s Creator Disappeared

What do mixers (in general) have to do with the fact that that platform is hacked? Mixin is not a mixer but presents itself as a decentralized crypto network and as things stand it is very very incapable of protecting what it should protect. Besides, why would coins that have passed through a mixer be better protected from hackers, that doesn't make any sense?


Their data that was stored in a cloud database was hacked, what more needs to be said than that? The fact that you have a company and that you claim to be an expert in something means nothing today, and you can have as much proof of that as you want if you look at all the scandals related to cryptocurrencies in the last 4-5 years.

You have more to read here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467994.0

There is no doubt that Bitcoin has a value that is clearly expressed on the market at all times, but there is also another value that is not measured in dollars or euros, but in the possibilities that Bitcoin provides to those who know how to use it in the right way. Most of the people with whom I had the opportunity to talk about Bitcoin over the years still think that it is some kind of internet scam, most of those who bought it as an investment see it only as a tool for making profit, and a minority experience it as a decentralized cryptocurrency.

For each of them, the "value" in the context of Bitcoin is completely different, and also if the values of the internet or gold are included in the same story.


Why didn't many people use the internet when it appeared? Well, to begin with, computers were expensive, there were no smartphones or infrastructure that would bring the internet to people. Does Bitcoin have that problem today? Of course not, because anyone with a smartphone and internet access can download a free BTC wallet, create their own seed and buy BTC in any way that suits them best.

If you take all that into account, then it is clear that in a year or two or even more than that, we cannot expect that the number of real Bitcoin users will increase by x10 if we take into account that today there are between 100 and 150 million users globally, although this is only an assumption.

For me personally, all three options are quite realistic, and now it's just a question of how someone thinks about that topic, which will result in one option being more acceptable than the others.

Realistically, the best option for everyone would be for those private keys to be destroyed, because that way those coins would never appear on the market, but also no one else would be able to present themselves as Satoshi if they were to be found one day. I would also take the third option as the one that makes the most sense to me, because I also think that the person who wrote on this forum under the pseudonym Satoshi did not leave anything to chance and that even then he/she realized how important it is that these coins remain forever unavailable.

It could indeed be considered the largest donation anyone has ever made for Bitcoin.

Your topic was probably deleted by one of the moderators because it was on the report list, which means that some user reported it. Only he can tell you exactly on what basis he did it, but I believe there is a good reason for such a thing.

Besides, if you have already done something useful that could be of help to the community, why did you have to put a price on it? Many members do a lot of useful things for the forum and do not ask for any compensation for it, but that does not mean that they do not receive an occasional donation for their work, which is a win-win situation for both parties.

I would call it just one kind of optimism under the question mark as to how realistic something like that is at all. Comparing Bitcoin with the internet or gold doesn't make much sense to me personally, because gold is something that has been an integral part of human history for thousands of years and people have always seen it as something valuable, of course in the last hundred or more years much more than before.

The internet, on the other hand, is something that enables people to communicate, perform various tasks, have fun, among other things, and is actually emerging as one of the basic human needs nowadays.

Let's ask ourselves where is Bitcoin in that story? From 2009 to today, research shows that somewhere around 2% of people globally own Bitcoin, which brings us to some 150 million people (although I think that number is much lower). Therefore, we are still quite far from a billion, and the process of "adaptation" within the framework of decentralization is going very slowly, considering that the authorities generally have a negative attitude towards Bitcoin because it represents nothing but competition to them.

What I want to say is that the internet is a completely different story and is no longer (if it ever was) an alternative, but it is considered that everyone should have access to it - and such an initiative has never existed when it comes to Bitcoin, and I don't believe that will ever exist.

A question for you - why are you opening a new topic when we already have a topic for Do Kwon? -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446051.0

Human stupidity is endless, and greed and the desire for quick profit are the ideal basis for all scammers who sell their junk for billions. Furthermore, what's the point of research if you don't understand the basics, and the fact is that this idea was doomed from the start.

As for extradition, I would definitely like that scammer to end up in the US because he will receive a much more appropriate punishment there than in South Korea. Now the only question is how much the US wants that criminal, that is, what counter-favor will the Montenegrins demand for his extradition.

What can go wrong when you invest in some shitcoins, keep them in your mobile wallet and at the same time search on social networks how to get even more of those same shitcoins without doing anything? In addition (even if the story is true) the OP and his brother obviously don't even know the basics, because how else to interpret asking for help in this way - none of us can return what was hacked, nor can we go to the police and report a case with which we have nothing to do with.

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The damage is somewhere around $6000 if I calculated correctly based on the price of the tokens and it is not an amount for which someone should take their own life - although I understand that this amount is a real fortune in some countries.

I don't even know how many times I have already written that people should first be fully aware of what they are investing in and how to protect their digital assets, and only then engage in the investment. Any other way is simply wrong.

If you are referring to altcoins, then you should know that their value only goes down with time in most cases, and most of them even fail completely. However, some will certainly be worth much more than they are worth today, but such an investment is actually in a way gambling - the only question is how much money you have that you are ready to throw into such a game.

As I already wrote, how to "spend" cryptocurrencies in one way or another is a much smaller problem for me, and you should focus more on how to prevent someone else from spending them instead of you, if you understand what I mean

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I also recommend that you read the unofficial rules of the forum - especially rule 32.

Whatever that company is doing, I am pretty sure that what they present publicly has its other side as well. Apparently, for more than a year and a half, they balanced between "we do not support Russia and its moves" and "everyone has the right to use our services", and now they have played a completely different game that will allow them, as some would say, "the wolf will be fed up, and the goat uneaten".

In addition, no one should think that the sanctions have anything to do with their move, because hundreds of well-known companies are still operating in Russia and no one can force them to leave that country. Perhaps it would be good if you read the article and you will see that more or less all of us continue to finance the same war that we are against in principle.

https://fortune.com/2023/07/11/the-feckless-400-these-companies-are-still-doing-business-in-russia-funding-putins-war-sonnenfeld-tian/

Then why the question at all? Every country has its own laws, so if you acquired that Bitcoin in a legal way, then you don't have to worry about anything, including taxes, banks or exchange offices.

In case I have such a large amount of BTC, I would never sell it in a way to cause a lot of attention, but I would do it in a way to try to negotiate the sale with to some of the CEXs that I would then visit in person and sell through their OTC. Before that, I would open bank accounts in some reputable banks in Switzerland, where I would also rent safes and store some of the cash in them.

In fact, there are countless possibilities and it is true that it is not a problem to sell that much BTC even if you don't want to go directly through CEX, but for most it will never be a "problem" because they will not even have 10 BTC, let alone the thousands that we are talking about hypothetically here.

Besides, why sell everything when there are so many ways to use Bitcoin as a currency around the world - booking hotels, buying plane tickets, paying in restaurants and on thousands of online sites that sell various goods and services.

The mods will not do anything by themselves, that is, you have to use the "report to moderator" button to expect any reaction. If the mods acted the way you think, they could delete or lock dozens of similar topics in which the OP asks a question and never appears on the forum again. This is not at all strange behavior if we take into account much more experienced users who open a topic and after that do not write a single post in the same one.

VPNs only provide the illusion of online anonymity, whether they are free or require a subscription, the fact is that they keep logs and will give away your real IP address if they receive a request from the authorities.


TOR is useful and a good way for online privacy, but it is far from the fact that users of the same can completely hide if they do something very bad - considering that there are those who have the resources to identify those who use TOR. In addition, some repressive regimes such as the Chinese one can block TOR, although even then with some additional actions it may be possible to use the same.

We can't say for sure if the OP is serious or just playing a well-known game, but non-response and inactivity are never a good sign that the story is true. Also, not providing more details about how the scam was carried out may indicate that the OP is not skilled enough to create a more convincing story.

As for CEX being able to do something, that is true, but the OP would have to prove that the funds are really his, and the question is whether he has control over the address he stated or that address perhaps in the possession of another CEX or online wallet where there is no possibility to sign the message.

@coolcoinz, thanks for the link that the OP didn't post, and now some things are much clearer considering that it's about the UK. It is evident from the article that it is not the first bank to make such a move, although some banks have only limited the amounts that clients can spend on a daily or monthly basis when it comes to cryptocurrencies.

I already wrote before that I can understand why banks decide to take such steps, because no matter how bad I think about banks, the fact is that a very large number of people invest in various scam projects, and then complain to the banks and try to return the money. Therefore, sometimes it makes sense to protect people from themselves, although I would do it in a different way.

I think that banks should educate their customers on this matter, and with every transaction that they consider to include cryptocurrencies there should be an additional warning about the risk that may arise from such a transaction. Of course, it is much easier to ban everyone from such transactions, but not everyone is equally naive and should be able to dispose of their money without restrictions.

If only it were that simple, but in most developed countries everyone who is employed and receives a salary or pension must have a bank account. Besides, how will you get a loan if you don't have a bank account? Here, where I live, I guess 90% of people have some kind of loan from the bank, whether it's because they bought a house, an apartment or a car that way.

Banks will not disappear just like that, because regardless of the existence of Bitcoin, it is still only one alternative that has been accepted by very few people if we take into account global data.

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As for the policies of banks towards clients who invest in cryptocurrencies, this is nothing new, because not all banks are equal when it comes to this - and we have already seen many times that they often know to change their rules. If we just look back and remember Jamie Dimon and his views on Bitcoin, then it is clear that these are very fickle people who think one thing today and another tomorrow.

But as already mentioned, it is possible that they are just playing a double game and trying to scare their clients and cause a price drop - although I doubt that they will succeed.