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1241  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 12, 2023, 03:16:07 PM
sept 19 fed raises rates we go down again.





To me, this is Powell's best statement with a little help from the ubiquitous AI of course Cheesy
1242  Economy / Speculation / Re: Michael Saylor predicts Bitcoin can go to $5 million? on: September 12, 2023, 02:43:26 PM
Although true, it would still be laughable to compare the Chad Saylor with John McAfee, no? Chad Saylor made one of the largest investments in Bitcoin, and therefore people can't touch him no matter how hard those people laugh at him. John McAfee is a mere snake-oil salesman who used his popularity to shill shitcoins.

I agree, the two can't be compared for anything, whether it's about things related to Bitcoin or the way they treat life in general. After watching the documentary about John McAfee, I got a much broader picture of him, so even though I'm not a psychologist to draw conclusions about someone's mental health, I would dare to say that a lot of things were not right in his head.

On the other hand, Saylor is a successful businessman with no scandals (as far as I know), and the only bad label that can be attached to him is his tweet about how he thinks Bitcoin will fail, as well as online gambling, but that was before some 10 years.

As for the speculation about $5 million, that's news from 2021 and I don't know why someone decided to bring it back into the public's focus - but even though I don't think it's impossible, I would still put that price in the context of the time it would take to make something like that happen.

If I'm not mistaken, we are talking about a market cap in the amount of even $100 trillion, and for the sake of comparison, that would be as much as 10 companies the size of BlackRock. This is simply too much money to be realized in the near future and could only be realized if central banks start buying Bitcoin the same way they buy gold today.
1243  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Alteration of bitcoin 21M cap: Is it possible, necessary or needless? on: September 11, 2023, 03:41:21 PM
The 21 million maximum supply cap is one of Bitcoin's biggest strengths — the fact that no one can print more than that limit. Removing the supply cap goes against one of Bitcoin's strengths so I totally doubt the masses would support this in the first place even if some people are for it.

Also, screw Bitcoin dot com.

When you see the source of the news, then you are not at all surprised that someone is even discussing it as something that should be questioned at all. Although we who do understand some things a little better understand why that 21 million is so important, we should also keep in mind that there are those who would very much like to see that number change to more for various reasons.

Some would want it because then the price would drop drastically and then they could probably buy one whole BTC and then they would wonder why the price would never go up again - some others want it just so that one of their crypto kings would ascend to the throne and to profit.

In fact, there are many so-called Bitcoins (forks) that have a much higher max supply, but there is no need to say how successful they were with these changes.
1244  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: BITCOIN AS GIFTS FOR TEENAGERS on: September 11, 2023, 03:16:36 PM
Maybe you went in the wrong direction from the beginning, which is that you went directly towards the children, and you bypassed their parents, who still take care of these children and behave protectively. If you take into account all the scandals that have passed through the media and in which Bitcoin is mentioned in the past few years, then maybe you can understand why parents react in such a way.

Of course, it is not Bitcoin's fault that someone is not capable of running his company or has dishonest intentions from the very beginning of a project, but the media you mentioned write what people want to read, and bad news sells far better than good news.

Politics and banks are only (still) fairly static observers who do not need to make any big moves, because the average person is already instrumentalized to such an extent that he does not easily (or at all) accept anything that deviates from established norms of socially responsible behavior.
1245  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2023, 02:52:25 PM
guessing game:

where do you guys think will be the lowest coming low that will never be revisited again?

I'm undecided... Taking FTX + Gox coins distribution and Blackrock manipulation into account my guesses are 22k-23k range or 19k-20k range.

It somehow seems to me that we have found ourselves in a situation where, with all the circumstances that we are aware of and probably some that we are not even aware of yet, the price will sink even more towards $20k as one (at least I hope) significant point of resistance. That doesn't have to be such bad news considering that the halving will happen in a little more than half a year, and speculations say that the chances for spot BTC ETF in the US are around 75% by the end of this year, and for the beginning of 2024 considering that then the deadline for the SEC to make a decision expires.

So this is just another opportunity to buy cheap before the bulls come back in full force.
1246  Economy / Economics / Re: When are you planning to quit? on: September 11, 2023, 02:28:06 PM
Good members of bitcointalk.org, I have come up with a good question. Since I have been checking the forum I have not seen any thread similar to this one I am about to drop here now.

The question is: at what age are you planning to quit Bitcointalking? (Some people might quit for newcomers to join).

Almost everybody in the world today is planning for themselves and some people are beginning to do other things for themselves. And we all know that after learning, then we start teaching what we have learned to newcomers and then newcomers will now become teachers tomorrow and start teaching the newcomers of their time. Otherwise, then we quit. By then, we are older and do not have the time to check up on the forum..

However, I have come across some bitcointalkers on the forum who have been here for over 10 to 12 years. If I am not mistaking, and for me, as a good bitcointalker, I am planning to be on the forum for ten years also, if time will permit.


Can you tell me what your question has to do with Economics?

I don't see why anyone would set a time in advance for when they will be on the forum, as if there is some kind of contract or rule that forces us to do so. I also don't see why my or anyone else's presence on the forum would prevent someone new from becoming a member of this same forum.

You obviously see this forum as some kind of task or maybe even a job, but those who have been there for a long time are still there for some other reason - maybe you will find out one day.
1247  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: You can get played by anybody on: September 11, 2023, 02:04:10 PM
So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them for some checkups or freebies you will not think twice? Simply because the request is coming from the real Elon or Vitalik account?

I don't have to think even once because I deleted my account on that platform, and all those who think that they will be blessed with something if they follow some celebrities sooner or later feel what it's like when naivety and ignorance come together.
 
Apart from the fact that it's hackers at play here, even if the real people ask for your private key you will give them? It seems many people don't even understand crypto.

Most people don't even understand Bitcoin, let alone what some call crypto, which is actually a real jungle where there are no rules. All these social networks, regardless of what they are called, are a real hacker's paradise. And when you go to the jungle, you have to prepare properly, most people go there as if they were going to a picnic by the lake.

Satoshi can not wake up today on the forum and send me message to provide my bitcoin wallet key, I will tell him to fu*k off, because this is the right way to protect my fund.

Theoretically, he can wake up by signing a message from one of his early addresses and then request that his account be unblocked. His account was already hacked in 2011, but I'm not sure if the hacker sent any messages. But if by any chance Satoshi sends you a PM, definitely don't get confused and tell him that when he already has a million BTC why is he asking you for your seed Wink

The best ways to stay safe in crypto space now is to just DCA, stake if you want and enjoy your life, nothing comes easily anymore, there is no free stuffs in the world, those who want to give up free stuffs want something else too.

Look, if you know what you're doing, you can be on any platform and nothing will happen to you, no matter how many tempting offers you receive every day. It's true that a free lunch is something that you can rarely get these days, but a few years ago someone gave away a few BTC to various charities on the forum, so miracles do sometimes happen.
1248  Other / Meta / Re: Please I keep getting logged out of the forum from my browser and don't know why on: September 11, 2023, 01:35:42 PM
It is possible that it is a specific combination of your Android OS version and the Chrome mobile version that is causing this problem. I found one case with a possible solution ->

As confirmed by OP disabling Chrome app fixed the problem (Settings →apps & notifications → select system apps→Chrome →disable app (to revert to the original version before updates)
I have no idea what caused this problem and only guess is Android Pie + Chrome updates didn't gel
1249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Owner of 8K bitcoin lost in landfill threatens to bankrupt local council on: September 11, 2023, 10:43:50 AM
The information that he threw the HDD in the trash is incorrect, his partner did it, so for years everyone has been blaming poor James for something he didn't actually do.

Not to mention that he claims she stopped him from mining more in 2009 because of the noise the laptop was making at night. But in the end, he not only lost the coins he lost his family as both his wife and kids left him, and now probably the whole digging plan is the only thing he has left or cares about.

That man then has a double reason to be sorry for not remaining single in his life, because not only would he not have become a victim of his wife rummaging through drawers and throwing things in the trash, but he would also have more than those 8000 BTC if she hadn't objected to him because of computer noise Roll Eyes

If nothing else, he will become an expert in waste disposal and its impact on the environment Smiley
1250  Economy / Economics / Re: Sabine Hossenfelder - Web3: World-changing tech or just a scam? on: September 11, 2023, 10:23:00 AM
Can you blame the outsiders for mixing Bitcoin and altcoins and thinking that they are only for speculative trading when this speculative trading is the largest use case for both Bitcoin and altcoins and even inside this community most of the discussions are about the price.

It's not that I blame someone for having superficial knowledge about something, but considering that the person is speaking publicly and that the number of views of his video will be significant, those who watch it can get a completely wrong impression about why Bitcoin exists and why there are alternatives to it.

Of course, the most debate is about price and profit, we are all responsible for that in some way, but at least we can warn from time to time that Bitcoin has a completely different function, which some actually use.


Scams and failures are normal when it comes to new inventions, what is not normal is complete lack of actual use cases years after the tech got introduced. There are not web3 apps that are used because they are good, it's always just a new iteration of crypto tulip bulbs, like Cryptokitties and NFTs.

ETH was introduced 7 years ago, at this point there should have been hundreds of millions of people buying goods and services through smart contracts, putting legal contracts on blockchain, doing decentralized computing and so on - instead it's just a platform for investment scams.

No matter how much you make it easier for people to use Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency, it still does not have the effect of changing the way people pay for goods and services. Volatility is the biggest problem for many, but even with payment processors, people have a hard time deciding to spend their cryptocurrencies, because tomorrow or in a month they may be worth much more.

Unfortunately, the freedom of the internet and the possibility for everyone to create their own cryptocurrency or token has its downsides, and scammers take advantage of this. When there is a call for more regulation in that sector, people usually protest because they consider it a restriction of their freedoms, but at the same time when some scammer pulls off a fraud of several billion dollars, they point the finger at the same regulators and demand that they do something.

I don't see how it will be possible to keep the same freedoms and at the same time prevent all bad people from doing bad things - all the warnings coming from all sides simply do not meet the understanding of all those naive millions who just want their chance to succeed.
1251  Economy / Economics / Re: Sabine Hossenfelder - Web3: World-changing tech or just a scam? on: September 10, 2023, 02:40:22 PM
At first I was skeptical when I went to watch the video because the first thing I noticed was a reff. link to a well-known VPN in the description, but I admit that there are some interesting things in the video. We often come across terms like Web3 and Web 3.0, but until now I didn't know that it was something different, that is, that the goal is quite similar, but the ways to achieve those goals are different.

When it comes to Bitcoin, the speaker intentionally (or out of ignorance) puts Bitcoin in the same basket with altcoins, that is, she thinks that all cryptocurrencies are only for trading and making profit, completely ignoring the reason why Satoshi invented Bitcoin.

As for the rest, she talks about everything, from NTFs, dapps, DAO, which she compared to communism, and a lot of other things that seem like a bunch of nonsense connected in one sequence, but I think it's too superficially explained for anyone who doesn't have at least some prior knowledge in order to make an objective conclusion.

I think it is quite logical that the web develops and goes in a new direction where it tries to achieve some new goals in order to satisfy what people are looking for in the 21st century. In all of this, there will be complete failures, countless scams and failed ideas, but also things that will undoubtedly change our lives.
1252  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 10, 2023, 01:51:10 PM
~snip~
That means you could send your 24 words through any compromised communication channel (even post it here).  And as long as no one knows the word sequence, your coins will be fine.

For many who encounter this form of backup for the first time, those words often seem like something that is quite easy to guess, especially if it is a seed that contains "only" 12 words. However, the seed is only a simplified representation of something much more complicated, which is still impossible to break with today's technology.

Although technology is advancing unstoppably, one estimate says that it would take more than 19 million years to crack 24 words seed. As things stand for now, we are pretty much covered, at least in that regard

This depends a little bit if all words are independent. If yes the will be 24! = 620.448.401.733.239.439.360.000 permutations of the words. Assuming that you computer can check 1 billion permutations per second (which is is way too optimistic as this would assume that a signature / public key could be computed within one clock cycle which he can't) this would mean that your computer still would need 620.448.401.733.239 seconds which is 19674289 (19.6 million) years as the absolut minor / lower bound. This estimation however does not take into account technological breakthroughs in computing hardware which could very well happen in that time frame (:
1253  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: My crypto news site - cryptotalk.tech on: September 10, 2023, 11:07:06 AM
Honestly, I've seen too many projects like this to be particularly impressed, but at least the whole project was started by someone who knows something about all this, so I hope the project won't shut down in a month or two.

Like others, I also noticed that the page loads very slowly through VPN, and that it is impossible to load it on TOR. This is something that should be resolved because those who value privacy will not be able to access the site, or it will be quite difficult for them.

As for the content, I personally have no interest in altcoins, so it would be good to separate the news related to Bitcoins for those who are exclusively interested in that. And yes, the domain name is not the best choice because it definitely has connotations with the biggest spam on the forum, which in turn is connected to that spam forum.
1254  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Owner of 8K bitcoin lost in landfill threatens to bankrupt local council on: September 10, 2023, 10:51:48 AM
The story about this character keeps coming back like the most persistent boomerang, so I wonder if maybe we should even open a special board for him? Of course I'm not serious Grin



I think him lashing out at the city council and threatening to sue them doesn't make bitcoin look good.

Do you really think his potential lawsuit could hurt Bitcoin in any way? I really don't see what would be bad for Bitcoin if someone files a lawsuit against the city authorities because they don't allow him to dig through tens or hundreds of tons of garbage and thus cause an environmental disaster for the people who live near the garbage dump?

..wherever his hard drive is, if it's in that trash dump i don't see how even a data recovery expert could get anything off of it. it's probably been crushed, cracked, corroded, etc. lost cause.

Probably so, but there is still a chance that that small piece of data that is the most important in the whole story could be saved. I think he would have given up already, but some experts think that something could be done with that hard disk in case it is found.

...his big mistake was throwing it away in the first place but that was his fault no one elses. he lost those bitcoin a long time ago. and they're not coming back.  Shocked

The information that he threw the HDD in the trash is incorrect, his partner did it, so for years everyone has been blaming poor James for something he didn't actually do.

What he doesn’t have, is permission from Newport town council to go digging around in their landfill site; they say that it’s potentially environmentally dangerous and that their permits don’t allow for it.  So for the time being, the wealth is notional.  Mr Howells has given up his job to concentrate full time on trying to organize the operation (and to speculate on conspiracy theories about what the local authority might not want to dig up there).  His relationship broke up a while ago, possibly because he couldn’t stop blaming his partner for being the one to actually throw the hard drive away, and he keeps an app on his phone which reminds him in real time of how much money he doesn’t have.
1255  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What did you do After Reaching your Bitcoin Goal? on: September 10, 2023, 10:26:16 AM
~snip~

If your goal was just to have say 1 BTC and you finally achieved it or are getting close to it, the question that arises is whether you did all that just to get to that number, or do you think that keeping your value in Bitcoin is better than in your local currency? If the answer is the latter, then you will continue with DCA according to your capabilities, even without setting yourself a new goal, although it is never bad to motivate yourself.

I think the decision is up to you, but whatever you decide, you can hardly go wrong because it seems to me that you are going in the right direction Wink
1256  Other / Meta / Re: Too Many Forum Boards - Outdated Threads - Let's Delete Boards on: September 10, 2023, 10:01:58 AM
~snip~

If something is outdated, it doesn't mean that it still doesn't serve its purpose, and if something bothers you so much that it stings your eyes, then simply ignore that board and you won't see it at all.

As for the award, someone can always nominate you for rookie of the year, and maybe in the future there will be a special badge for that achievement Wink
1257  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jakarta is in a pollution emergency, Is it caused by crypto mining? on: September 09, 2023, 01:55:33 PM
~snip~
Even Christmas lights are provenly using more energy than crypto mining if I remember correctly.

Wait? How come Christmas lights are using more energy than crypto mining? That's hard to believe because those lights only work in December period, that's when the world will want to celebrate Christmas and start putting up the Christmas lights.

I think @mk4 is referring to an old story in which the consumption of electricity in the context of Christmas lights in the US was mentioned again in relation to the total consumption of electricity in some other countries in a period of 1 year. In other words, more energy is spent on Christmas lights in the US than a country like El Salvador spends for the whole year.

In addition, it was calculated that all electrical devices in the US consume more energy only in standby mode than Bitcoin consumes for a whole year.

Bitcoin Mining Wasteful? Christmas Lights Use More Energy Than Some Countries

Crypto mining on the other hands work every blessed day, this is the only way miners get their ROI back, so I am quite lost about your point @MK4, can you please explain better?

I'm not going to pretend as if Bitcoin mining isn't the most energy consuming of them all, a single Asic miner use over 3000 watts of power, that's like using 5-6 GPU for mining Ethereum back in the days, crypto mining in general uses a lot of energy.


A lot of energy in relation to who or what? A new report says that energy consumption has fallen even more compared to last year, which means that mining devices are becoming more efficient. If you take into account that at least 50% of the energy that miners use comes from renewable sources and that the annual losses in the electrical grid are as much as 50 000 TWh, then can we translate a number between 100 and 150 TWh as "a lot of energy"?
1258  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: El Salvador: bitcoin education in school curriculum on: September 09, 2023, 10:59:25 AM
Given that there is a main topic about El Salvador in the Bitcoin Discussion, I wonder why there is a new topic at all and why in Beginners & Help?
I applaud you for bringing that to my notice, quite alright both topics are projected towards El Salvador, but there is a discrepancies between the two topics Two years ago today, El Salvador adopted Bitcoin as legal tender, meanwhile i wouldn't mind locking my topic if it does spells out an iota of duplication or spam despite the difference in their informations and discussion.

I wasn't thinking about that topic, but about the main topic about El Salvador, which is also in the Bitcoin discussion, and someone there already published this news -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5342087.msg62812210#msg62812210

It is always good to search the forum (even visually) and not open new threads if there is already a discussion on the same topic. Of course, each topic should be in the appropriate board.
1259  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 09, 2023, 10:47:39 AM
I still have problems with the need for 37 random characters for the 25th word.. and let's say if someone just has 10-15 somewhat random characters, then how long is it going to take to break into the Trezor?

I think a lot of confusion has arisen about how strong a passphrase should be to protect someone's seed in case someone comes into physical possession and tries to extract the seed. What someone wanted to emphasize is that a passphrase of at least 37 random characters would provide the same level of protection as the seed itself (24 words) and is practically impossible to brute force, but that does not mean that 10+ characters are not resistant to brute force.

We can always check how long it actually takes to brute force a password on sites like https://www.passwordmonster.com

Only 9 characters in this password makes it virtually impossible to brute force ->



By the way, we have a long term member in these here parts that swears by that piece of crap, aka Ledger, and surely there are probably quite a few members who may or may not be in the closest about their use (and apparent belief) in the Ledger crap.

Ledger does not have the problems that Trezor has, but if we take into account that a few years ago almost the entire database of users with all the data was hacked, and that a few months ago they announced the revolutionary "seed recovery" service, they shot themselves in the knee by giving the possibility at all to one such device shares the user's seed with as many as three different companies.

Of course, the service is optional and you pay $9.99 per month, but when someone does something completely contrary to what they have been advocating for years, I wonder how to trust such a company.

Oh I see that the 39+ pin is different from the extra word...and that 39 character pin would resolve the other issue regarding a hacker getting ahold of the physical device and breaking into it.. so that still leaves the issue of the 13th or 25th word actually not needing to be very complicated, and a 8-15 character passphrase may well make it quite difficult to get at the wallet because they would first need to know (or suspect) that such a wallet (or extra portal to a wallet) actually exists in connection with the 12 or 24 word seed that was extracted from the device.

As I already wrote, I think that the passphrase I mentioned above is more than enough if we take into account today's computers and the time it would take for someone to brute force such a password. Of course, the whole thing doesn't matter at all if someone who knows what he's doing doesn't get hold of our hardware wallet.

Speaking of how to take care of our hardware devices, I always remember an interesting film on that very topic - it's worth watching if you haven't seen it already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf97ofTlZhk (Schloss Bitcoin (2020) - deutscher Kurzfilm - Crime Black Comedy Subtitles in English, French & more)
1260  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Tax obligation for personal Bitcoin traded to Fiat on: September 09, 2023, 10:06:00 AM
Your tax office is mocking you:)

There is no doubt about that, but the law is like that at the moment, and when you are not in a position to change the law, you have to adapt in one way or another.

~snip~
I am sure that you also find a way out of the situation, but if the law is idiotic, then why is it needed?

In fact, there is a way and it's completely legal, and the law says that you can sell cryptocurrency in the amount of EUR 1000 per transaction without KYC, and there are dozens of physical branches where you can do it. Of course, all this makes sense for smaller amounts, while the question of the origin of the property can always be raised if your legal earnings do not match the value of the property.

In other words, I can sell more than EUR 5000 worth of cryptocurrencies every day, completely legally without KYC, and buy, for example, a house after a month - the problem arises if someone reports me (which can be anonymous), and then I have the problem of proving where the money came from.
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