If you are not one of the victims, then there is no point in signing the petition, because the point is that those who have lost their funds using this wallet come forward and in this way try to encourage all those state agencies to finally take action in this case.


Obviously, there is not enough interest from anyone to start an investigation, maybe the question of jurisdiction is something that should also be taken into account, given that the UK, Russia and some other European countries are mentioned. If by any chance the whole matter was under the jurisdiction of the US authorities, I think that we would have seen some concrete moves long time ago.

European authorities (with a few exceptions) are not even close to their American colleagues, especially when it comes to something like cryptocurrencies.

When you say "we", who exactly are you referring to? Those who use their brains and know how to interpret facts from independent research never even thought that Bitcoin has any significant impact on the environment.

Various so-called "experts" and journalists who are paid to spread lies never cared about this data, as it will not matter to them even now how much energy is actually needed for Bitcoin in one year. Even if the consumption is only 1 TWh and it comes from renewable sources, their lies about how the world will remain in the dark or how temperatures will rise because of Bitcoin will continue.

In this way, they are actually covering up decades of systematic destruction of our planet at all levels, and now they are looking for who to blame for all that - and Bitcoin is more than an ideal victim because there are few who will defend it publicly.

It's not a bad idea to change your e-mail, but I can personally say that at least 99% of such e-mails go to junk mail, which is automatically deleted after 30 days with most providers anyway. Of course, everything depends on what kind of spam filters someone's e-mail has, but also on how those who are among the first to receive an e-mail with such content react, because I always report such e-mails as spam and in this way help others recipients to not receive it in their inbox.

Looks like the OP is going to have to learn the hard way, but that's sometimes the only way you can convince someone that some things aren't what they seem. There are few who can say that they did not have similar "problems" in their beginnings, and I do not exclude myself as someone who believed in various projects, and in the end, only Bitcoin remained.

If it is only about lost time and a little money, then there is not too much damage, but some people are very badly disappointed in everything, even though it is actually their own fault because they did not want to listen to others - that is why those who learn from other people's mistakes can save a lot of time and money.

The OP is entitled to his opinion (whatever it may be), but as others have already written, I can only repeat that it is a really bad idea to "convince" someone in any way that they should invest in Bitcoin, and that's just for reasons that one day he would profit when he sells at a higher price. With such an approach, we turn Bitcoin into some kind of get-rich-quick scheme, and not what it actually exists for.

If you are already telling someone about Bitcoin, then at least start from trying to get people interested in trying to use BTC as a currency, and how to learn to be their own bank. Someone who shows no interest in these things should probably not buy BTC at all, although everyone does what they want with their money.

@ImThour, at least you, as a Legendary member, should know the difference between Bitcoin and crypto, and since no one mentions Bitcoin explicitly, what is this topic doing in the Bitcoin discussion? Even if the figure is miraculously true (and of course it isn't), people who invest in altcoins have messed up in the long term anyway, whether they will be screwed by inflation or 99% of crypto projects that will fail in the next 2-3 years.

What I noticed is that "someone" persistently pumps this kind of "research" in that country, because a few years ago we had a similar discussion, only the number of those who owned crypto was 18%. You don't need to be too intelligent to conclude that various CEXs are using the economic situation in that country to create the impression that everyone is buying cryptocurrencies, which is actually a tactic for them as companies to attract more clients and of course earn more by charging high service fees.

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In addition, I noticed that some members warn that we no longer write the name of the country as Turkey, new is Türkiye.

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147704945/the-state-department-will-begin-spelling-turkey-as-turkiye

For someone who is new to all this, every group he comes across is great - it's enough to write a catchy name and promise profit, and before you turn around, thousands of members will be making millions, just like the guys from Wall Street

Next year at this time you will be a millionaire

I also thought that it was hacked only twice, because this is the first time I found out that the first hacking happened back in 2011, and it seems to me that maybe the biggest damage was done then, if we take into account that no one noticed the hack even 6 days, and that the hacker took over the Satoshi account. Fortunately, it was still the early days of the forum, because if something like that were to happen today, it would create a real circus.

We know that every coin has two sides, so cryptocurrencies should not be taken for granted as something that contributes to the world exclusively in a good way. A large part of the "crypto industry" is actually a factory of lies and deception that generate huge profits for those at the top of the pyramid, while the rest try to pick up only the crumbs, hoping that they will get lucky with some project that they will invest in at an early stage and that will turn into something extremely profitable.

The OP is simply too optimistic and does not see (or does not want to see) reality, which is unfortunately much different from the illusions he is talking about.

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I think we already had a discussion on this topic and that it is obvious that Bitcoin payments (on-chain) when it comes to microtransactions is really not a practical or cheap way of payment. As an alternative solution there is LN, or even some of the altcoins that have cheap fees (or none at all). In economies where every penny counts, saving a few dollars a day can mean a lot.

I wonder what it is with you so-called OGs who wake up one day and decide to make fools of themselves after all that we could hear and read over the years when it comes to Faketoshi. There are people who believe in solid facts, and then there are those who believe in fairy tales, which is nothing bad if you are a 5-year-old child.

Nevertheless, for consolation, you are not alone in your beliefs, even the famous Gavin Andresen at one point shared the same opinions as you, which is even more strange considering that he is a man who was one of the closest associates of Satoshi Nakamoto. It might be a good idea to contact him (send him a PM on the forum) and ask him if he still feels stupid because of his statements.

If none of that helps and you still think that Faketoshi is the real Satoshi, I suggest you move to Colombia, because there they still think a little differently than the rest of the world.

You are absolutely right, these are not compassionate people who choose their targets and they don't care if their victim is someone who has only $100 or someone who has $1 million. However, those who send such e-mails are nothing more than ordinary vultures who hope to pick up the remains of what is left behind by the Kwon-Bankman scam pandemic, and you should not be surprised at all that you receive such e-mails, because I also often receive e-mails from various CEXs, although I only registered on one once upon a time.

The best advice that everyone should apply is to never click on links in e-mails until they are sure that they come from a legitimate source - and we can easily find this out by checking the sender's address and comparing it with the e-mail address that is always on to a legitimate website.

As others have already written, it's a bad idea that doesn't achieve anything positive, and even threatens your privacy even more because most CEX require KYC.

If you don't want to use mixers for some reason, then you can try to make several wallets (5 or 10) and mix coins by sending transactions between them. It also won't completely protect you from all these companies that sniff and analyze the blockchain, but if you have some coins that you think could be "suspicious", then this way of "mixing" can give you a certain security in case you send such coins to some centralized platforms that perform deposit analysis. I can't say how deep they go in their analysis, but they probably won't look at more than 10 transactions in depth.

If someone were to search the forum for the question you are asking, they would find dozens, if not hundreds, of discussions asking the same question. Recently, someone opened a topic in which he asks just that - and 6 pages of discussion will give you some sort of general view of what the members think about it.

Can 1 satoshi be worth $1 in the future?

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There is always hope, you just don't need to be so focused on just one thing in life, because you might miss an opportunity that could actually change your life for the better. What I want to say is that you cannot expect Bitcoin to save you in such a way that you will live better in x years, even those who have much more money for such investments cannot expect that.

It's the same as asking why people change jobs, or why they go to different restaurants or shops - everyone has their own preferences that make them choose what to promote at a certain moment.


For some, it's not all about pay rates, but also about what they promote, and if the differences in pay rates are very small, then it makes sense to choose a campaign that is less demanding, regardless of whether that campaign pays less.


I was also in one campaign for more than three years and I don't see anything strange about it - you have excellent conditions, an excellent campaign manager and you are promoting something that you think has benefits for the community.

To me, this looks like someone who watched too much of The Da Vinci Code, and then got the idea to enter into a business venture in which he will try to establish an "elite club" in which he will charge $77 a month because that is the number that represents "divine wisdom and enlightenment." and everyone in the club will be happy and rich.

I'm not going to any illuminati club, I'm going to have a good time tonight and I'll be happy to spend $77x2 on some much better things

If we look realistically at how an average Bitcoin investor thinks, then we don't need to look for any additional explanation as to why so much dust is being raised around this ETF. The whole thing revolves around the fact that most people are counting on BlackRock and other companies of that type to cause a big bull run, and all that remains after that is to sell BTC and take as much profit as possible.

Of course, these same people are counting on the fact that sooner or later the price will drop significantly again and that they will be able to repeat the whole process again, but the question is whether history will repeat itself with such big players in the game.

What should also not be forgotten is the position expressed by BlackRock regarding possible forks, and this opens up a completely new dimension in terms of how they think about it - which leads to the conclusion that at some point they may even try a fork of their own.

Probably he can hardly stand the price below $26k, and maybe he decided to seek solace in a good whiskey - this one has never disappointed me -> https://www.glenfiddich.com/12-year-old

It will be interesting to see how the accused will try to defend themselves considering all the evidence presented, and I wouldn't be surprised if they try to ignore the whole thing and hope that the mods won't see enough evidence for a permanent ban.

On the one hand, I understand that some members think they can do whatever they want because they are online and nobody can do anything to them (which is not true, of course), but I don't understand that someone who wants to cheat the system can be so naive as to use the same coin addresses or profiles on social networks on all profiles...

Nice work @lovesmayfamilis.

I understand that phrase very well, because I felt on my skin what the phrase "Serbian world" meant when they tried to create a Greater Serbia in 1991, and they partially succeeded in that by occupying 49% of the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which today is practically part of Serbia, although still not formally on paper.

If you look at what happened then in the area of Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, you will see that Russian tactics are almost identical to Serbia's, whether it is the political or military action of both countries towards their neighbors.

What happened in my country should never happen in Ukraine, namely that 99% of all crimes were amnestied, and that war reparations were never paid, and that those who participated in the worst crimes became part of society. That's why I said that real peace and justice can only be achieved if you drive away the aggressors by military means, but for that you will have to pay the highest possible price.

You are asking a beginner's question as if you have never read on this forum or elsewhere that all cryptocurrencies seized by the American authorities will sooner or later be auctioned and sold. Officially, the matter is very clear, cryptocurrencies are sold and the money goes to the state budget.

You know what's even more ridiculous about your statement? That do you think that the US should give up investing in its military budget and thus buy a bunch of shitcoins or Bitcoins and then use them to defend itself in the event that there is a threat to national security

A question for you - how much BTC could the US buy if all the money from the military budget was diverted to Bitcoin?