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1881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 21, 2023, 07:04:02 AM
Dortmund played well yesterday night and got a well deserved victory although the opponent was not a strong one,still it is in these games against these opponents that you usually lose the title and Dortmund knows this better than any team as they lost last season the title in the last game at home against Mainz.

Now the Bundesliga is becoming more interesting with each game that passes as even Dortmund is a challenger together with Leverkussen which for me is the strongest challenger to the title this year against Bayern Munchen which is a standard challenger for the title and the most successful German team.
1882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 21, 2023, 06:29:53 AM
Well looks like Verstappen was not able to get to the pole yesterday night with European time,Leclerc,Hamilton,Norris were both there with Leclerc finishing first in the qualifying.It looks like Verstappen appetite is going down little by little as I highly doubt he will be able to win the race tomorrow.

Anyway this starting grid promises for a good race unless Verstappen didn't care much for the qualifying as he knows in the race is a completely different thing and he is not that behind 0.37 seconds is nothing that cannot be recovered in the race.
1883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cross addictions is Just as Bad. on: October 20, 2023, 06:29:22 PM
Cross addictions can be bad, but they can also be good. You just need to find the negative things in your life and remove them while replacing them with positive things. People do this all the time in order to better themselves while ridding themselves of nasty habits. I think it can be a very healthy way to do things.

Yeah that most likely should work.For example you want to change career at some point because you are bored to death from your actual job and you quit gambling and buy quite some new courses on Udemy for the profession you want to change your career into it,this would be beneficial.

Cross addiction though is mostly related when you go from bad to worse,for example you go from gambling to alcohol and from alcohol to whores your life never seem to get on track again and as such it is a bad one,the above example is a good one which should be beneficial for the person.
1884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question for those who loose too frequently in gambling on: October 20, 2023, 09:48:18 AM
I have often wondered about the people who have lost a lot in gambling and who almost loose in every gambling activity they participate. What is their reason or motivation to continue even after so many losses?

The answer is pretty simple and that would be the hope to finally hit the jackpot or that max win is what keep people coming back and gambling again.I am talking from personal experience as every gambler can not escape from losing frequently at some time but the fact that there is this max win to get is what keeps me coming back,even when after this time of lost sessions I quit for some days but I never forget my final objective which was to get that max win,so far I have only gotten once x9833 near the x10.000 max win and this has increased my desire to keep coming back to hit even bigger max wins.
1885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Much do you Value your Privacy in Gambling? on: October 20, 2023, 09:28:49 AM

So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

I am already level 2 verified at Stake as I believe really big companies like this would not care much with my data except doing what they need to do and go through the verification,the bonuses if won any of the challenges are slightly higher if you are level two verified and I think also the ongoing bonuses get something very little as more  Grin.

The fact that I verified though is because I won about 3000 dollars a long time ago and before withdrawing I got to verification so I could avoid problems and in fact the withdrawal was instantly successful and after a few moments it came in my wallet.
1886  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: October 20, 2023, 07:11:12 AM
Well, I see the Post-Monthly are out guys..... !!

This is actually a very early Post Monthly, so I guess Stake.com are doing well. Just watch out, because I see there are a Phishing link out too, so make sure you click on the link that are coming from the official Stake.com and not some scammer.  Roll Eyes

I am still waiting for the marketing team to acknowledge that there are a Rugby and Cricket World Cup being hosted.... all the drops and promotions are just for American Football or the NBA.  Roll Eyes

I was just checking out the thread as I thought most likely if there were any post monthly they would be quite some days after I was thinking of the 26 to 29 and then a Halloween bonus but it is good that they are giving the bonus early together with the weekly boost,in total there should be enough balance to place the perfect bets for the weekend matches and also the F1 in US which starts exactly today.

Of course Stake is doing well and in such month like October,November and December they have always had a gear more because of the holidays that these months represent.
1887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: October 20, 2023, 06:29:26 AM
Most people are not 100% busy at work, because you only stay active.. if there are work that needs to be done. So, I see no issue with people gambling or playing Chess or Solitaire or whatever in their idle time.

While I agree with you in that statement above I am highly convinced that toxic managers would love to see someone doing just that so they can have a lot of details regarding that person playing Chess or Solitaire when they will go ask a promotion for themselves they will use that person as an example of how a good of work they are doing that they don't leave anything going unnoticed by them.

I also agree that the work shift should be changed to six hours as the most productive worker as they say in US has a maximum of 4 work productivity by day and in that other time they can gamble or do whatever they like.

1888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often is your luck in gambling? on: October 19, 2023, 01:42:18 PM
i don't consider my gambling a career, it's just entertainment, if i win then it's great, if i lose then it doesn't matter. but when it comes to whether i'm lucky or not, i don't really pay attention to that because all i know is playing and when i get the jackpot i use the money for various thing. but it seems i was quite lucky in my gambling because from the money i spent i got quite a lot of money too. so yeah i could say i have good luck.

and am i thinking about getting out after hitting the jackpot? i don't think like that because i gamble purely for entertainment and i don't play intensely, so when i get the jackpot i think it's quite fun and will continue playing.

As I have been reading yesterday night on Stake chat while playing every body complaining about luck but the sentence that made me laugh the most was some guy writing "I am waiting for my luck to come back from holidays" and the holidays were lasting well over the usual amount of time we spend on holidays.

Personally luck hit me not that long ago on Stake on Fish Eye slot where I won x9833 near the max win of that game of x10.000 multiplier,since then though my luck is on holiday and I don't know when it will come back to me  Grin.
1889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: October 19, 2023, 12:50:27 PM
^  Nice...  I think I won a free bet myself...  But that might be in the Multi Master.  Lol.  I'm trying to win a free bet in Superbru tho...  But it's hard.  Didn't realize F1 pools are way harder than football pools.  Cheesy

^  Lol.  I man Verstappen could 'slow down' his ambition but he'll end up still winning because he has the best car and prolly he's the best driver this season.  He's miles ahead of the driver he was 4 years ago.  Still too aggro at some spots but more controlled and a tad below reckless.  Grin  But you know it's still there in his back pocket if given a good challenge.  Most drivers would prolly fold against Verstappen's aggressive nature except Hamilton and possibly Alonso.

I like this new format a lot better.  There's more stuff to think about and it's not just about who gets to post 'Verstappen, Verstappen, Verstappen, 10 secs' in the thread the fastest.  Cheesy

Yeah when you get on a roll like that then it's all about breaking records, so the only "danger" is he tries too hard and makes a mistake but with all the others around him making mistakes instead it's a bad bet to go against him.

I like the new format too, gives late entries a fairer chance Wink

Watch out for Brazil!!

Betting wise I would never make a bet for him at the lines the books are giving him for.  They have Verstappen at 1.23 to win the US GP.  Lol.  No thank you...  And it's funny because I think betting on a 5 to 1 underdog for Tim Elliott in UFC 294 holds less risk than betting on Verstappen at 1.23 who's supposed to have the race in the bag.  You just never know in F1.  :/

That is the beauty about F1 as you never know when the engine or a mechanical failure will let you down,or some other driver will crash into you or some dramatic changes to the weather can impact your race and taking all these variables in consideration that 1.23 odd looks really funny and low.

I think that we can make three bets on three other drivers who will have the odds well over 3 and this is better than betting everything on Verstappen especially now that he is already World Champion.
1890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: October 19, 2023, 11:56:29 AM
There is not much to share and I am only sharing the only and most important thing to do to stay responsible.Set a budget and stick to it,find the force to quit when you have finished that budget and don't be deceived by the slot giving you near wins or near bonus round symbols falling on the reels as if you do it is game over regarding being responsible.

Once you have mastered this very difficult art it will be super easy to stay responsible and to not over do it,sometimes it is normal to get involved and deposit some more but only very few times.
1891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: October 19, 2023, 11:30:26 AM
~snip~
When something like this occurs, it hurts a lot: you selected a game and don't have the money to play it. Later it match to the game you predicted and it enters immediately. Nothing, in my opinion, hurts more than the possibility of winning a bet when you haven't win over year and you still don't have the funds to play it right now. In that type of game, you'll want to borrow money and play the game so that you can't lose, but you'll also be concerned about how you'll pay it back if you borrow the money, gamble, and lose. Because of this, I am able to say that it is really bad for us to depend on gambling. If we have other things to do when we feel like gambling, we will undoubtedly have money in using on game prediction. Therefore, we should have something to be doing.

In this instance, if you keep going, you will undoubtedly win but you shouldn't rely on it because doing so would only make things worse for us. Gambling is likewise a privilege reserved for the wealthy, not for those with insufficient means.

Well, yes, you will win eventually a single instance, but the overall amount of money that you paid to get that win will be more than the prize you get.

That's basically how the probabilities are setup in the game.

In the end you will pay more than what you receive. That's pretty much it.

Borrowing money to gamble sounds like a fast way to get into trouble, just read any of the stories of the exchanges CEOs that did just that.

Unless you are good in controlling yourself and you can manage to calculate both wins and losses, maybe you can get out with some winnings, but if greed dominates you inside, the chance of winning will be far from possibilities as you will keep pushing your way and keep trying to win more.

Something that really lead gambler to lose more when they playing, I think the last part of your statement is also true, borrowing is a fast way to get you in trouble as if you won't be able to repay your debt since it's only gambling that circling inside your minds and nothing else.
Self-control and financial literacy are important. The very nature of gaming depends on the way our brains naturally make us act. If you win once, the dopamine rush can make you want to keep going after that high, even if it means losing more and more. When greed comes into play, it's like adding oil to a fire that's already going. Greed takes precedence over reason, turning planned risks into careless goals.

Debt is a bad thing, especially when it's caused by a strong urge to bet. The mind becomes completely focused on gaming, blocking out any sensible thoughts about paying back debts or the results of one's actions. The need to win grows along with the debt, making a never-ending cycle. The very act of getting money for such risky projects shows a serious lack of judgment. One should never gamble to the degree where it endangers their financial stability.

If you don't have that good control over your emotion better not to step your foot inside any casino or sport house, problem most of the time take place once you taste your first win, that encouragement inside you, that you can win again most of the time will lead you to more problem. You can enjoy if you know how to handle the pressure if you can continue to have that good control over your emotion and capable of stopping when it's needed to avoid exceeding from your set targets.

I can relate to this.Back in 2019-2020 I got the urge to play slots,I had played a lot of slots in FIAT casinos like Bet365 and also in physical casinos in my town but I had never seen x100 to x1000 multipliers in bonus games.In the games I played the best they did was to give up to x10 multiplier which during the bonus round if you hit a good one you could win up to 200 free spins which would in turn give you a substantial win.I was never that much amused by these slots until I saw Play n Go and the Arthurian x100 multipliers theme,I happen to hit a couple of x3000 wins which made me fall in deep love with this provider,I played a lot and got addicted eventually.After feeling bored I got to Pragmatic Play and immediately loved their bonus which you could buy by the way.I kept playing a lot with that too and now I still do yet I use IDR as currency to play a long time without spending much money.

Moral of the story,I now can control my emotions and choose when to quit.
1892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 19, 2023, 11:02:15 AM
After a good start to the season but a disappointing end, the Aston Martin team is bringing new updates to the car for the United States GP. Aston Martin fell out of the podium battle as the season progressed and now they are trying to get back on track. I think they lost this year and i think with the updates Aston Martin will have a better start to the year and will fight well throughout the season. They are still spending time in the middle of the season with updates to build a good car for next year. Also, the updates have worked very well on the simulator data, and they could be the second strongest team at the United States GP and even win here if everything goes well.

Aston Martin have had some ups and downs during this season. But generally Alonso's performance has been really solid. He has done his best to get the most of his car in every race. Stroll has been holding back this team for a long time honestly. He has been making really simple mistakes. Alonso has literally had full responsibility to bring points to his team.

I think even Stroll's father started to think of replacing him with some other driver permanently.  Grin  By the way Stroll doesn't look like he will race in the United States GP. Because I have seen some ads which put Drugovich in his place for this race weekend.

I think that no one really cares if Stroll will race or not except maybe his girlfriend  Grin.As you say he has brought nothing to the table and even when he was racing in Force India and had a near win in Turkey he could not keep his performance consistently and that is the reason why he does not perform well,of course having your father as a comfort whatever happens most probably impacted him for the bad and not for the good like it did with Verstappen,sure Jost Verstappen has no team of his own but still can impact a few things in F1 for you when it comes to choosing the right team and as such no one gives a damn about a second Perez I would call Stroll.
1893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you leave gambling if your future wife/husband tells you to do this ? on: October 19, 2023, 10:27:13 AM
Will you leave gambling if your future wife/husband tells you to do this ?

Absolutely not.The reason being the simple one as I do not believe anyone can quit gambling for good because as they say vice comes out only when our soul comes out meaning when we die.My wife knows and she does not say anything as long as I am a responsible gambler that maximum I spend 100 dollars a month for gambling which is nothing compared to our both salaries and as such she does not care,she sometimes tells me to stop for my own good when I keep buying the bonus in slot machines like crazy and spend several hours playing but she would never order me to quit.
1894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Flip or Trade? What’s The Bigger Gamble? on: October 19, 2023, 07:30:08 AM
I agree with you, we could say that day trading is more like gambling if you're unsure on what you're doing or you have no idea how it works and Some traders should know how to control their  emotions. well, everything is easy to learn if you are really interested, we have a lots of accessible tools that will help to do some research regarding this matter.
Even in that case there are fundamental differences between the two, in the case of gambling even if you knew nothing about the different games offered by the casinos your chances of winning are still as good as the chances of everyone else, so your ignorance does not have an effect on your potential outcomes.

But when it comes to trading we see the opposite, as if you are ignorant about how the market moves and what you can do in order to take advantage of those movements you will lose your money without any possibility of getting it back.

Even with the knowledge you gain in trading as I have worked a couple of years in a grain exchange you cannot win constantly which make it the same as the gambling.In fact in gambling is better as because as you say you don't care much knowing anything except you just need to hit that spin button in slot machines for example and the outcome is already determined before,so the only thing needed here is LUCK,the same in trading,without LUCK no matter how successful you may think you are you will not be for long.
1895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 19, 2023, 07:11:40 AM
I witnessed Lukaku's impressive form this season after big clubs abandoned him. The 29-year-old Belgian striker has been laughed at and criticized throughout his career. Despite doubts about his performance, Lukaku still shines regularly for AS Roma. He is proving to be a professional player. Throughout the summer, people talked a lot about him. And now his on-field performance. That's what proves the big clubs wrong.
Lukaku faces criticism from supporters in Inter Milan, this sad incidents originated when he failed to improved and exhibits his outstanding qualities, he's an attacker who comes into prime and often lose the ball easily to his opponent, but he's an aggressive player. Romelu Lukaku is gradually having his life back in his new club, AS Roma. José Mourinho is the man behind the fast redevelopment and restructuring of the Belgium international who already lost it all at Stamford Bridge, where he failed to make any solid impact in the team. AS Roma is more like a team that offers him enough game time as issued out by the headcaoch. He's gradually bouncing back to shape and scoring in almost all the games he featured in for AS Roma this season.

The intermilan supporters were too sensitive regarding him. Lukaku does nothing wrong. Football player has right to decide what's gonna be his future. Let's said that if lukaku has opened the door for intermilan but the club itself was not even caring toward him.
It's very sad to see him is always being blamed by the supporters when he was only doing what he likes to do. The fans needs to have better mentality. So many disrespectful fans toward him.
Even some were racism toward him. Im happy lukaku has strong mentality to defend himself from being insulted by the racism supporters.

That is not a good thing about the fans but we know the fans,when they get mad at someone they don't change their opinion no matter what.I think Lukaku has done well to get to Roma and hopefully help them for the remaining part of the season as they were devastated early in the season by Genoa in that horrific loss of 5-1.Hopefully things will change with the coming of Lukaku as he still needs time to adapt to his new team as only a few games he has been playing with them since the start of this season.

Racism is always bad for anyone especially when they call you something different because of your skin color,shame on those supporters.
1896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 19, 2023, 06:10:18 AM
After postponed two week due FIFA International matchday, in this weekend we are watching back all Premier League matches for matchday 9 of 38, there are have several interested match not only with merseyside derby Liverpool vs Everton and other interested with London derby between Chelsea vs Arsenal. Which one your list Premier League matches for watching on this weekend after postponed or delay almost two weeks with several UEFA EURO Qualifier match until FIFA World Cup Qualifier. I think favorite match for watching in this week London derby and waiting with Chelsea can continue their winning trend or have loss from Arsenal.

All premier league matches for matchday 9 of 38
  • Liverpool vs Everton
  • Brentford vs Burnley
  • Bournemouth vs Wolves
  • Nott Forest vs Luton Town
  • Man Ciaty vs Brighton
  • Newcastle vs Crystal Palace
  • Chelsea vs Arsenal
  • Sheffield vs Man United
  • Aston Villa vs West Ham
  • Tottenham vs Fulham

Judging from this list it means at least in theory that there is money to be made by parlaying many of these games.Liverpool,Brentford,Manchester City and Newcastle I call as the four games most likely to end in wins for the teams mentioned here.Sure that there are other games that may hit like Tottenham and Arsenal but for me these are a bit more difficult.In the Premier League this weekend looks a lot easy on paper but I would also not exclude any surprise results from these games which is a normal characteristic of the Premier League.
1897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 18, 2023, 01:41:54 PM
Track:  Circuit of the Americas, Austin Texas, USA

And I think it's high time the books allow the same event parlays for F1.


This is a great track for a sprint race.
Just ban Verstappen and it will be a great weekend to watch

That or the other teams should pick up the slack and actually make their car faster.  They pay millions on engineers ffs.  Can't they just give the fans a competitive car?  It's not Red Bull and Newey's fault that they're doing a good job in designing a fast car.  And isn't making a great, fast car the whole point of F1?

I mean yeah, Alpha Romeo, Haas and the smaller teams prolly should be given a break and we shouldn't expect too much.  But Ferrari and Mercedes?  No excuse.

I agree,it is not the fault of a great driver who has refused better teams and stayed at Redbull even when Redbull was not at all dominating the Championship,I give credit to him for the loyalty given to Redbull which has been rewarded with 3 consecutive World Titles.I liked him when he said after winning his first title via radio "Let's do this for another ten years together" which again showed great belief in the team.

I also agree with the fact that Ferrari and Mercedes has absolutely no excuses when it comes to their budget and I would also add one of the oldest and successful teams of F1 history which they hold the fastest ever world record pit stop,McLaren also has no excuses.
1898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 18, 2023, 01:20:34 PM
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After North Macedonia knocked Italy out of the World Cup qualifiers and drew the first game with Italy in this qualifier, I would say that the first decisive game will be with North Macedonia  Grin
After winning the last European Championship, things are not great for Italy, failing to get a spot in the World cup even though they are the European champions were a disgrace.

There is change in coach as Luciano Spalletti is appointed the new coach and it is a lot of pressure for him to deliver against North Macedonia who were instrumental in knocking Italy out from the world cup.

I don't think Italy will have any problems winning and getting maximum points from all the remaining games,the only team that they could not face was England and that of North Macedonia was just a really big surprise which in soccer happens from time to time.However things are completely different right now with Italy having all the possibilities to win and get easily the three points from such encounter.

England is in top form although it did not look so in the friendly they had against Australia where they really struggled a lot to get the win but I think it was because no one gives a damn about friendly games except the coach who has the chance to try different setups of the team.
1899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports bets or in-house games, which is best for the weekend. on: October 18, 2023, 12:59:51 PM
Hey, fellow gamblers so I have some free time for the coming weekend and I want to spend it with family and also enjoy some games,  I want maximum entertainment and fun to ease me off the stress.

My challenge is, I have limited funds to spend on gambling for the weekend so I have to be very accurate and certain about what I will be spending my money on this weekend, and I am confused about which of the games to go for.

weekends are for football matches, where I can watch the games,  make analyses and stake my bets along that line,  which have always been the usual rutin for all.

Also in house games are also very exciting and entertaining since I will be in control of the games and their potential outcomes keeping in mind the possibility of the house edge,  so this brought me to this confusing position between which of the both to choose from and so I will like to get individual opinions on the best games for the weekend.

Sport bets vs in-house games which is most enjoyable and has a higher tendency of bringing much winning compared to it possibility of losing?

I just tried my luck with slot machines with limited budget,however I don't feel that much limited as I use IDR as currency and when I do so 20 dollars is over 300.000 IDR so I can keep playing my favorite slot like Sweet Bonanza for quite a lot of time.The fun is there but it can immediately become a huge stress if it hits you a bad streak,I kept buying the bonus it kept me in the loop,no win no loss,same amount after buying the bonus lots of times.

For sport games I would suggest you go with that as I have saved now the amount and stopped playing slot machines waiting for the weekend games trying to boost my balance so I can come back playing slots with a better bigger balance  Grin.
1900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sustainable Approach For Your Earnings in Gambling on: October 18, 2023, 10:42:06 AM
Do you think this is a good idea? Do you have a better idea?
Lets have it!
Sounds good but may nit be that easy in reality. You did nit mention anything like loss, you only mention winning and profit. This is how some people will go beyond their gambling budget and play mire and lose more. But if you are able not to go beyond your gambling budget, it is a good idea but winning is nit possible all the time.

True, the context of the text is focusing on how gamblers spend their wins; in cases were losses is the dominant factor; theres really nothing to spend.
Would managing gambling profits better help gamblers more?

Personally only when I win big I cash out huge part of them but when I keep winning little amount I have some wagering strategies to spend this amount in order to use it to increase my VIP level at the casino where I play so I can have better benefits from these levels.

When we lose if we have set the budget and call it a day after losing it,it means that we are a disciplined gambler that is very difficult to fall into addiction.For example like you say if that personal enjoyment 5% can buy you a new PS5 for example by all means cash out and buy it,I do this only sometimes though,buy a new gadget with the gambling wins,this gadget every time I use it reminds me of a gambling win  Grin.
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