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2821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Brasileirão 2023 - Brazilian Championship Serie A on: June 25, 2023, 07:38:19 PM
In Brazil Serie A there is tons of money to be made as I honestly don't understand the way bookmakers give odds to certain team,yesterday I won a considerable amount as I bet on Atletico Paranaense against Corinthians and despite Corinthians being a strong team this season they are not where they should be so the odd was near 2 at 1.98 for Atletico PR so I got ahead and did bet on them which resulted in a winner.

I thought that betting on Palmeiras would be a good choice as they are playing against their direct rival this year so far Botafogo,but so far Botafogo is in advantage while we are near the second half.If they manage to win the game then this would be a really bad blow to their title fight.
2822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bet on live game or while game hasn't started yet? on: June 25, 2023, 07:09:15 PM

Cast your bet in a match that have yet not started or bet when the game is already live?
It must have been asked before but in case new sports bettors have not yet read such thread, reply back your opinion about it.

Found myself losing when the money line changes from 1.75 to 4.35 as the game began. But sometimes when I also wait for the game to start, it changes to worse such from 1.75 to 1.10

The best is to place bets before the game has started if you are confident enough that this event that you have chosen to bet on will be a winner and also all predicting websites,news,analyses says the same and back your choice.

I personally prefer to bet on live games as I don't like trying my luck before the game has started,I also choose games that I can watch on live streams,nowadays almost all leagues even low ones you can find stream for them and while I watch the game I create an idea in my mind as what the best bet will be,usually I play with over/under goals most of the time in live games or total goals from a specific team.
2823  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 25, 2023, 06:23:29 PM
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FUN token doesn't really react to that

The token price will react as BTC is the denominator which means when BTC is stronger especially sharply up on a particular day that should put pressure on that price.   Same as prices are  certain to rise when a currency value falls.   So thats a definite relationship but I agree if people are positive on BTC it probably does help the FUN token price longer term.   If we compare the recent low for FUN price in dollars and cents to the price today, its risen by 44% which is no small amount.   To then want a Satoshi quoted price rising on top of that value gain would be exceptional, longer term I would estimate  Bitcoin performing well raises the interest and requirement for 'safe harbor' of long term sites like this.   Whatever the narrative I do think its a fairly good guess this site does well alongside bitcoin usage and market generally.   However the price wont move immediately in parallel to BTC.

I strongly agree that FUN token will react to the next bull run and we should all be waiting for it not selling the FUN,on the complete contrary we must buy as much as we can now that FUN price is super cheap and as such we can all amount to win really good substantial amounts of profit when we sell the FUN tokens for Bitcoin at that time.Maybe now we are still in a crypto winter for most altcoins including FUN token but most likely they will come out of this crypto winter as they have always done during all the bull runs that we have witnessed so far,so I expect the same to happen in the next bull run,so we should not worry much about FUN and forget about them until the next bull run.
2824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Adolf Hitler old man pic and passport. He came to Argentina and got hidden in... on: June 25, 2023, 05:51:57 PM
There is also solid evidence that he committed suicide in an attempt to explain his disappearance. Other evidence also can be considered solid, indicating that he was liquidated with his beloved Eva Brown, and that no one knows the fate of the children.

This narration, for example, states that it was confirmed that Hitler died in 1945 through one of his teeth, which was treated medically: https://www.history.com/news/hitler-death-cause-teeth-analysis

There will remain multiple accounts of Hitler's fate and all of them will try to draw the threads of the conspiracy, but what is certain is that there are actually those who know the truth and perhaps it is still too early for his facts to appear to the public.

I don't think it is to early as if there are some solid evidence of him having lived a life in Argentina as stated above would have been found by the secret services of Israel without problems,with all the evolving technologies and the Internet it would have been a piece of cake for them to find him.The fact that they have not found anything related to him in Argentina means that most likely this is a conspiracy theory and some other conspiracy theory says he went and lived in Brazil until he died 95 years of age,something without any proof or evidence at all,this means that for me the most trustworthy version is that he committed suicide in order to not shame himself by falling in what he used to call "enemy" hands.
2825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: June 25, 2023, 05:38:12 PM
many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"
Self-control that failed to do for cases of gambling addicts like him.
I once answered that I would not be offended if someone said I was a gambling addict because indeed I gamble not as a main job to support my family but to have fun when I am in a good mood.

If that's the case with him, maybe it deserves credit, lol

That is the problem of gambling addicts,they do not care and do not go deep into thinking and analyzing what they are doing and what consequences their actions will bring to them personally and to their family as second or maybe first to their family and second to them as I hope people are not that selfish anymore,things have changed and I hope also addictions have changed.

We are trying to advice here everyone to not play more than they cannot afford to lose and to set a predetermined bankroll which will help keep them in line as long as they follow these predetermined limits but unfortunately we still have people who have lost their common sense and are deep in addiction,though is a good thing that these people are fewer and few.
2826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ambivalent attitude to gambling on: June 25, 2023, 05:22:53 PM
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What do you think? Why is there such a different attitude to gambling products and will it ever change?

Why do people have different attitudes towards gambling? that's because there are quite a lot of social problems that come from gambling such as domestic violence, suicide, theft, and other criminal acts. Compared to the lottery, there are not many criminal cases caused by this, because usually people who buy tickets use spare money which if they lose it won't be too much of a problem for them. But unlike gambling, many players are addicted to this. When they are addicted and bankrupt this is where problems start to arise, because gamblers will become more irrational and tend to use various methods so that their gambling desires can be fulfilled and this is what causes many criminal acts to occur. So it's no wonder that many people globally don't really like gambling.
I think why do those who gamble just by buying the lottery look calmer because they can use the smallest amount of money, just 1 ticket a day to try their luck while gambling like in casino games and sports betting is impossible just by playing with $1, because the casino has a minimum deposit that is above  that value, and I do not agree that gambling will make a person different, and gambling is not the only reason for someone to be bad because all actions taken without responsibility are the characteristics of a bad person, corruptors are bad persons, drug-addicted can be bad people, so we cannot assume that all bad things happen to someone because he is a gambling addict, he could become an addict because he first experienced mental problems and gambling is the escape

I know a lot of gamblers who are very calm people,funny and who like to have a good time,they don't get mad that quick even when they lose a huge amount of money and these are the persons who are not corrupted nor use drugs or substances or alcohol except a couple of drinks as a max.There are unfortunately also other people who while they gamble are calm but if someone talks to them while they are gambling and losing money they lose it completely and starts yelling or behaving in a not appropriate way and these are the problematic gamblers,it does not necessarily mean that they are prone to alcohol or drugs or corruption but this second type is of course more prone to such things.
2827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling, investment, stocks..... on: June 25, 2023, 05:00:13 PM
Gambling stocks is not as profitable as investing in Cryptocurrency, but I still prefer to invest and in fact, have invested in token-based casinos where I get staking rewards, I have never invested in stock trading but have friends who urge me to give it a try and based on their description I don't think it will not be as profitable and excited investing in gambling stocks.
If you're a big-time investor you could diversify your portfolio but for small and medium investors Cryptocurrency is the best investment, many traders are now shifting from stock to cryptocurrency because they know where the money is.
Everything depends on one's level of development and thinking; those who lack patience will never experience rewards, while those who are patient are prepared to overcome obstacles. Gambling profits cannot be compared to those made in the cryptocurrency market, where well-known projects can return 100 times a trader's initial investment. Traders and investors make significant profits from the market every single day, leaving gamblers with nothing but gambling addiction behaviors and unreliable gambling profits. Gamblers suffer when they take good risks, which gambling involves.

That is not true as traders also suffer colossal lost amounts of money in their trades when they hurry and they don't know what they are doing.In gambling yes there is much more risk but gamblers are also in for the huge rewards which are up to x300.000 your bet as the maximum prize in some slot machines beside playing for jackpots in many others.

The only true "traders" are the ones who keep their coins or generate them through mining in difficult times and only sell for a huge profit in the next bull run where the new all time high price of Bitcoin will be available.You cannot make a true comparison between gambling and trading as they are almost the same except that risking in gambling has more benefits than risking in trading.
2828  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco.in - FUN Token Investment Experiment on: June 25, 2023, 04:15:15 PM
Before 6 month I invest 462500 satoshi in fun token and today worth 166500 satoshi , not bad investment  Cheesy , token are locked 2 more month. Till now it will probably worth 50 000 satoshi  Grin. Another word I lose all I invest.

Don't look it that way and what you can do is to add another 462500 satoshi if you have the possibility to do so because now that can buy you twice or more the amount that the first 462500 satoshi did.Do not despair as we are all waiting for the next bull run here which most likely if history repeat itself it will be in late 2025,most likely Q4 (we all hope to see it since 2024 it would not be that bad either) and so when that time comes and you have even locked the FUN you will get a bigger number of FUN which I predict it will be at least 100 satoshi each so you and most of us will profit in a real substantial way,so let's wait to see and we will all be happy then,so let's forget what happen with FUN until that time as the best thing to do.
2829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: hi i have question on mining on: June 25, 2023, 02:47:38 PM
From the Radeon cards in AMD the most efficient is still the Rx 5700 xt at 115 watt 55 Mhsh if I recall it correctly.Mining is not profitable but you can use Nicehash or any mining pool that pays out in Bitcoin like 2miners,you can do so only if you believe in the long term profit of Bitcoin price.I personally believe a lot in the Bitcoin price and I have kept a home miner with just 2 cards running at my home,despite now making only little money I strongly believe that after two years where most of us expect the next all time high price this amount that I will make will give me a considerable amount.The temperatures are high as I keep them in my living room where we have also the kitchen near and outside temperature is 37 degree Celsius,air conditioner is on but that is the min temperature.

2830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 25, 2023, 01:44:47 PM
But Hazard also didn't use the chances he got. All those injuries led him to be caught in a downward spiral, which is tough for every player to get out of, but for Hazard it seemed to be even harder as he wasn't as secure with the ball and as flexible when he tried to launch one of his speedy attacks. At no point did it make sense to compare the Chelsea Hazard with the Madrid Hazard. At Chelsea he was on top of everything.
Hazard got problems with not only injuries but also with his weight. He even played worse than Gareth Bale who at least could make some important goals for Real Madrid in his last seasons in Bernabeu.

Bale was vulnerable with injuries too but he still had better fitness than Hazard. No one can know real problems of Hazard as he quickly turned to be one of world best players in Chelsea to like a useless player in Real Madrid. His case is worse than Higuain who moved from Napoli to Juventus and after a few summer months, got an overweight body too. However Higuain did played well for Juventus and he was not falling uncontrollable in performance like Hazard.

Hazard has always been a great player and I think he was unfortunate to get injured,he can still be a great player to any team including Real Madrid but unfortunately he is not in a good form recently so I doubt Real Madrid is having a good eye on him,most likely he will not be in Real Madrid plans for the next season.

I agree with this if this is to be the truth as Real Madrid should look forward to get some great players as we saw how easy they were beaten by Manchester City in Champions League and also they did not do that well in La Liga either,so their utmost priority will be to get some great players in this summer transfer window.
2831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: June 25, 2023, 12:36:40 PM

Exactly.It looks like the Championship season of MotoGP will be disputed between Bagnaia and Bezzechi,nevertheless the sprint race was a good one and I think we will see a great race tomorrow as they call it the "university of MotoGP" this track which means is the most technical track of all the season.

I always watch this race even though I mostly watch F1 compared to MotoGP but I think thanks to the bonuses I get from the casino I play at I will be having quite some money to try some different bets on this track,am going for the super high odds as I know most riders will be out of this track,at least this is my memory in many races here.

Call me crazy but I don't like this track.

Bagnaia could have at least 70 more points at this time but he crashed so many times when he was on top 2, what a shame Grin

I don't know of any other fan of MotoGP that does not like this track but you must be a unique case in any case  Grin.Bezzecchi I have always liked him as in any race he has won so far he has done so by starting behind most of the times and doing great lap times to win and that is why I have loved when he has won a race.

Bagnaia should stop doing errors otherwise he will be in a very dangerous position if Bezzechi keeps winning in the times he is out,of course Bezzechi has not been that consistent either but at least the Championship is wide open because of him.They are both 1 second behind each other at top 2 so it means that these are the best riders as they are riding extremely well even in the "university of MotoGP".
2832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: June 25, 2023, 11:03:35 AM
Gambling isn’t sure money. We have often heard people saying, “The house always wins”, so yes, only the casino owner gets profit by the gambling. You can try gambling as a secondary source of income, but shouldn’t completely rely on it. As gambling is a game of chance and luck, not skill, for this reason, the possibility of getting loss is very high compared to the possibility of getting profit. If you have a family to look after, or tons of regular bills to pay, then yes apart from gambling you also need to do some serious jobs.

     -   That's right, But for others, gambling is a money that when you get lucky, you suddenly become rich. Because the gambler's reason is always what if I win and get the jackpot, I will suddenly become rich. This is always the mindset in their minds, it's too good to be true as others usually say, right?

So gambling should really be done as an entertainment or amusement only so that there are no hard feelings, at least losing is fine with us, it should not lead to bad results just because we gambled of course.

Exactly,the guys who dream about hitting the jackpot should not overdo it,they should have a predetermined bankroll,choose the game they like and keep using the turbo spin with autoplay in their beloved slot machine and if it hits it hits if it losses all the money we should not go further as this means the risk of addiction and we should be happy because we spent for example 25 dollars to hit that 5000 dollars mark,we can try again next day or next week but it is extremely important to not lose money we cannot afford to lose as this has only one way which is down south until we go from bad situations to worse situations,so we should really try to avoid it by using the above mechanism of self control.
2833  Economy / Gambling / Re: How succesful will AI projects be to win the house? on: June 25, 2023, 10:18:52 AM
I am not a big fan of ChatGPT and I don't think they can win easily the house,I used to believe that and still do but lately some intriguing thought has come to my mind,what if ChatGPT can read the programming pattern of a slot machine and to ask him what to do and when to raise the bet in real time,I know this is more fiction than reality although I believe that with enough development of this technology somewhat we can have the upper edge when playing gambling.I know they cannot predict the future in sport betting and this technology will be worthless there but I still believe something can be done out of it against slot machines.
2834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 24, 2023, 10:06:29 PM
I like the mothed Manchester City is employing by looking out to sign the best possible players even though thtoppedop the various league in the last season.

The situation for Manchester City is pretty much to same as the other teams, they have enough money to invest in their teams and they can buy the players they want, also they have enough money to keep players for the next season like Haaland. On the other hand, they achieved the titles in the last season and for any player, this can be a good chance to join this team and help him to achieve more goals.


They are still the strongest team not only in England but in all Europe,honestly I don't know which team can deal with them and to be able to stop them in the Champions League next season also.I think they will be at least in the final again because as long as they can play one game in their home stadium they can turn around no matter whatever result they have suffered when playing away.

In Premier League though they made a lot of mistakes but they were lucky to win the title there because of Arsenal screwing it up but in the Champions League that it was based only on two games one to go and one to return they pretty much crushed out every single team,including big ones like Real and Bayern.
2835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 24, 2023, 09:32:18 PM
Regarding Napoli, I wonder how they want to make the team stay stable for the next season. because as far as I can see in the news they are losing many players and they even lost their coach for the next season while we don't know how Rudi Garcia is going to perform as the manager of Napoli for the next season. They could save their coach Spalletti and have a better situation for the next season.

It was Spalletti wanting to move away and of course the management of Napoli was not happy at all with what they saw in the Champions League against a mediocre team like Milan which also beat them in the Serie A 4-0 which was why the management immediately accepted and remove Spalletti,he is a good coach but only for Serie A it looks as he has not done well even with Roma outside Italy.

Napoli is happy that they won the title this year after 33 years of not doing so but for the next season I am sure they will take it easy and whatever comes comes,they won't be pushing themselves to win the title at all cost although it is definitely in their objectives to fight for it again.
2836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 24, 2023, 09:13:05 PM
Next season in French League will be really interesting because many players left PSG even with all these players, PSG had a close race with Lance until the end of the season.
While in the next season when PSG loses many of these players they will have even harder days to win even the French league.
But there are also those who come after being loaned, I mean PSG loaned many players in the previous season and next season they will have many players to fill the depth of the squad. After returning from various clubs, I think maybe the performance of the players on loan has improved, one of them is Mauro Icardi. In the Turkish League he has successfully scored many goals for Galatasaray and won the title, there is a possibility that he will fill PSG starting eleven in new season.

Icardi a great player that I don't know how the hell he ended from Inter Milan in Serie A where he was doing more than fine to go and play for Galatasaray,that is what a wifey like his can do to a person professional career as Wanda Nara dragged him extremely down psychologically and this guy lost it all,then they try to be again together in PSG but that went wrong also so he ended up in Galatasaray,a team of high level in Turkey where he finally found his natural talent of scoring games and winning the title with them which I think he is now finally ready to be playing again at high levels with Paris.
2837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: June 24, 2023, 08:57:40 PM
2023 Dutch MotoGP, Assen - Sprint Race Results
Pos   Rider   Nat   Team   Time/Diff
1   Marco Bezzecchi   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   20m 9.174s
2   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP23)   +1.294s
3   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +1.872s
4   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23)   +2.245s
5   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +4.582s
6   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pramac Ducati (GP23)   +5.036s
7   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23)   +5.876s
8   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP23)   +10.102s
9   Alex Marquez   SPA   Gresini Ducati (GP22)   +10.525s
10   Luca Marini   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   +10.556s

Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1029820/1/dutch-motogp-assen-sprint-race-results


Ducati is just too strong this year.

Exactly.It looks like the Championship season of MotoGP will be disputed between Bagnaia and Bezzechi,nevertheless the sprint race was a good one and I think we will see a great race tomorrow as they call it the "university of MotoGP" this track which means is the most technical track of all the season.

I always watch this race even though I mostly watch F1 compared to MotoGP but I think thanks to the bonuses I get from the casino I play at I will be having quite some money to try some different bets on this track,am going for the super high odds as I know most riders will be out of this track,at least this is my memory in many races here.
2838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: War and conflict on earth will never end on: June 24, 2023, 08:39:43 PM
War has always been been there right from time immemorial. As a matter of fact I can say that  war is part of human activities that will never end unless the world comes to an end  countries across the world are producing arms and ammunition on daily basis. Those that cannot produce are buying from the producers. All of these are in preparation in the event of war. Now tell me how will war come to an end?

That is the problem,the ego of one person which is deep in our roots can cause all sort of things,even starting a war like in the case of Putin which started the war out of nowhere with false pretenses as we all know by now,he started it just because of his ill imperial dreams fantasy of expanding Russia to borders before the completely removal of USSR and this has created a mess in the world,inflation to roof,people or better most of people can buy fewer things with the same amount of money because just one war.
Imagine now to have a lot of wars going on,pretty much humanity will come to end,they say the apocalypse is near and I would not doubt it that much if we continue with this rate of wars,physical wars like Russia is waging in Ukraine or psychological wars like Covid 19 was.
2839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: June 24, 2023, 08:24:30 PM

Yes, a budget helps to set like a stop loss for daily exposure in the game. So in the long run, it won't turn into an addiction because following your budget with your maximum loss or win for the game will exercise your discipline to follow your gambling budget plan.
Planning a budget for gambling, it's a good idea.
Because with a small budget and of course betting consistently, always holding the commitments that have been planned, of course gamblers will avoid addiction or bigger losses.
This control is one way to get gamblers used to gambling responsibly.

Almost all gamblers know this before playing and this has been advised a lot of times here and I strongly agree with this advice.The problem is that it is the rage at the moment when you are losing in slot machines how do you handle such a moment,you have a lot of self control and no matter that you lost the predetermined budget in a short time you quit and call it a day or the rage of the moment gets the best out of you and you continue pouring money increasing your losses and also increasing your chances of addiction by doing so.Unfortunately there are much more gamblers who are controlled by the rage of the moment than the self control.
2840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 24, 2023, 08:10:05 PM
Looks like there were a lot of players on sale at Chelsea at least this is what I saw in the news,sport news tonight while scrolling TV channels,I don't know how true that maybe but if this is the case it means Pochettino has already a very clear idea as to what players he want to have at his disposal when the new season will start not that long from now as less than 2 months and we will be seeing again Premier League action.

I think it is a right move to sell some players as Chelsea bought a lot of them last season and did not get the desired results from many of these players and this must be the reason that also Pochettino is not that happy about the performance of the team,I am assuming he want to be at least in Champions League spots this season Pochettino and to do somewhat better than he has done with Tottenham in International competitions.
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