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1921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New way and this works fine for me on: June 22, 2017, 05:46:48 PM
Dude.... I think you just went on a winning spree and now you think you have some sort of strategy. Don't you think if there was some way to win people would use it and the casino would go broke ? If you knew of such methods you wouldn't share them nor speak of them. You would quitely keep winning.

Usually every gambler have strategy and play in gambling own strategy wise, but i realize we can't win in every bet behalf of strategy. Sometime our strategy work but not every time. It is also true, if we have a secret " secret mean our strategy or skills"  then don't need to tell others, because we would be lost our trick of winning.
Not just in gambling, I have watched even in trading, strategy will not be working all the times. Hence there will be no meaning of sharing it with anyone because definitely it will not work all the times in futures. When a strategy is completely based on our skill then we cannot expect it will be working for some other gambler too.

Most of the strategy requires timely responses that is the reason it is not working for all the gamblers.
1922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: June 22, 2017, 04:29:29 PM
There are some point that gambling can give a lesson to be learned most of all when you are loosing money and just came into your mind that playing gamble is really not worth your money for to spend why people always depending to think that gambling can be the solution of having luck of money.
Actually if we ever experience a failure in the gambling game then we do not have to try again. Those who try again are not satisfied with the results they get, in the end they lose all the capital they have. This is a lesson in gambling game, "never try when you already know that you will fail". The most important lesson that can change your life as a whole.
Very true. Not just in gambling, everywhere we should accept what we are facing. We can fight against it but not at the same moment. We must take time to think over about pros and cons before fighting against it. If we are having any clear idea then we can start our recovery process at least from next day.

In gambling if we are closely watching many gamblers are losing their capital only in the process of fighting against their losses. It is a very big lesson unfortunately no gambler is ready to learn it.
1923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: June 22, 2017, 03:51:42 PM
In trading you do need to know how you will earn there. It's not just about investing and depositing your bitcoins, it's also a gamble but in a different way. In gambling you will just choose on what game you want to do and that will be use own choice but the phasing for each gambling game is fast, that can lead you to lose quick.
How it will be gamble when we will be investing after many confirmations like that is the income generation of a business will be having and how they will be sharing their profits. If you are doing an investment without proper analysis then you may call it a gambling.

Gambling is all about assurance. When we are having definite answers then we cannot call it gambling. When you are not aware of what is actually going on and not aware of what is going to happen next, that is the situation you may call you are into gambling.
1924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 22, 2017, 03:35:50 PM
I am not agree with you someone can play gambling in a perfect way.Gambling never makes someone perfect.someone can win big some times but at the end he must loose.some people have good luck they win on gambling but every time his luck not with him.someone had good luck and he win big but if he continue with gambling he must loose all.there is no way play gambling in a smart way.
Playing gambling in smart way does not mean we are gambling in a perfect way. Because in gambling just preventing losses will be very big achievement rather than losing all our bankroll in just a few rounds of gambling. In my opinion a perfect way of gambling must be making very big profits and in my experience making profits from gambling is not at all possible hence there will be no perfect way in gambling.

But we can prevent losses. Preventing losses and securing bankroll must be a one of the reasonable smart way of gambling.
1925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Global Crypto Bear Market on: June 22, 2017, 03:12:46 PM
Alt-coins are entering a global bear market but not Bitcoin, it will go up when we get Segwit.
I am praying for this to happen. Hopefully when scalability issue of bitcoin will be getting solved we can expect more number of new investors will be entering into bitcoin to take bitcoin prices in to new peak levels. Other than those scalability issues, I'm not finding any other things which are blocking bitcoin's progress for this time being.

There are many high-volume investors are just watching bitcoin on how it will be performing with its internal issues, if bitcoin will come out of those issues smoothly then definitely we can expect them to get into investing in large volumes.
1926  Economy / Speculation / Re: Volatility Yes But No Bubble on: June 22, 2017, 02:09:34 PM
But even a bitcoin lover like me can't really deny the fact that a bubble is present right now. There is no way that user interest/user base increased more than 6x correspnding with the price. There is probably capital moving in from large entities into bitcoin so that they can hide their wealth away from spying eyes, but a lot of it is still speculation no doubt.

Agreed on this part!

There is something going on right now. No reason for the price to do something so... Crazy.
When you look at the chart and zoom out a bit you can't help but wonder "what happened recently?"
Because right now the price is just too high. I won't believe that user interest went up so much in so little time that the price is going up so fast. There must be something inside, either a small bubble or simply a really big investors cleaning the small dips as soon as they arrive.
There will be no big differences between calling "prices are too big" and "bubble". Bitcoin prices are reaching this much big prices only because it has enough adopters to support these high prices.

So, we cannot call it is too big nor a bubble. There are people who are constantly calling bitcoin into overbought zone from the price levels $1500+ from last few months, but unfortunately bitcoin prices are proving that they were complete wrong.

In upcoming days bitcoin prices may reach $5000 range, still I believe we cannot call it is into bubble because there will be enough adopters to support by investing with bitcoins.
1927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Instability and fluctuations of bitcoin. How dangerous is this? on: June 22, 2017, 01:17:16 PM
It's dangerous in a way how it behaves it's price in the market and that fluctuations can be alarming to the new investors, but profitable to new buyers. Fluctuations is nothing to be worried of as long as you have prescence of mind and you do have the courage to face challenging situations like unpredictable bitcoin price is changing everyday. Danger of fluctuations is revealing always so you should stay strong and don't be discourage if price suddenly falls down.
We cannot call bitcoin is unstable because it is constantly giving fluctuations which are very much useful for traders as well as for active investors. Yes, I mean to say bitcoin is very much consistent with its volatility, anyone who are skilled to make use of this volatility can make good profits out of it.

Fluctuations are common for any commodity hence we never need to treat it as dangerous to bitcoin ecosystem and its progress. Bitcoin was designed to have huge value, in order to attain those huge values, bitcoin must be having to fluctuate so that traders and investors will get attracted.
1928  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you trade at multiple exchanges? on: June 22, 2017, 11:43:34 AM
Yes, this a sure way to make money. You buy from an exchange with low price and sell at an exchange with high price. This is called the practice of arbitrage. I have my accounts on poloniex, kraken and yobit. All are good exchanges.
This practice of arbitrage only theoretically possible now a days due to heavy competition from lots of crypto currency users. Practically we could not figure out any big price gap between exchanges. So I'm not suggesting to have multiple exchange accounts for this purposes.

Still you can maintain accounts with many exchanges for the reason of not trusting them completely for all your funds. You can have multiple accounts with more number of exchanges so that you will be secured even one exchange is having problems like hacking.
1929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: If you have now 500$ for invest? Where you invest? on: June 22, 2017, 11:20:53 AM
Same question as in topic.
Where you invest your money today?
Btc, Ltc, Eth, Lisk or what?



Since $500 is kinda small amount for long term i would invest half of it on bitcoin and half with other altcoins with short term to gain more bitcoins. Bitcoin is for long term so if you trade you will gain more.
Why you need to go for altcoins for long term investments. Altcoins may fall drastic in near future and that is the reason crypto currency professionals are not suggesting going for long term investments with altcoins. In my opinion  $500 must be a decent amount of capital even for long term because I am always focusing only with bitcoin investments.

As of now, investing $500 into bitcoins and leaving it for years definitely will give very big returns. So, never call $500 is a small investment nor investing into altcoins for long term holding.
1930  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to learn how to trade on: June 21, 2017, 08:20:37 PM
All you need to know about trading: buy and hodl baby!
I guess you are talking about bitcoins only because altcoins are known for unexpected dump at any point of time hence holding them might result in huge losses with the case of most of the altcoins. (In recent times some altcoins are performing well, still I am not convinced by them to change my strategy on holding them).
1931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: June 21, 2017, 04:24:55 PM
Yes bitcoin is like you bet your capital its either you profit or you bankrupt.In trading you also have to gamble your mind and heart.That if your going to succeed on your business or not.
But in trading if you failed its alright because theres another time that you can get your capital back.Once you earn profit it will last for a long term,it depends on how you manage the business
As per your statements, any business or deal also falls into the category of gambling. Because we cannot be sure about what would be the result at the end of doing any business hence everything in our life will seem like gambling alone.
1932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When did you start gambling? (Because of BCT Promotion?) on: June 21, 2017, 03:00:22 PM
I was playing gambling before wayback when im 9 years old of age i use to play cards which is lucky nine and black jack i use to win that time we have  banker to defeat and you can control your bets like the new generation of gambling nowadays but since bitcoin gambling is the new generation of gambling there are lots of gambling that advertising in this forum and i just knew them one by one because of this forum and advertisment.
If it is not the case of online gambling nor visiting physical gambling then probably I also had gamble in the age of 11 or 12 itself because we did play some street games with stones for money betting and also I remember I have played card games with my father for money at those ages.

But honestly after getting into job and becoming a earning person, I turned into gambling just because of getting introduced to bitcoins. I'm not blaming bitcoin here but I am really enjoying it. When I am not making any big losses with my bitcoin gambling why should I regret nor blame.
1933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ? on: June 21, 2017, 12:00:21 PM
Every thing you make earning bitcoins has risk , Even doing jobs like promoting and joining a campaign has risk because you invest your time to do the job and there are a chance that you wont be payed (very low risk) . One of the most high risk in earning is gambling and investing , Gambling is the most well know earning here in cryptoworld and we know that we can earn bitcoins very fast but in the other side we can lose too fast too thats why it is very risky. In investing it has different types like investing on a cloudmining , hyip , gambling site and ICO .
First of all, gambling is not at all in any words a investment because investment means where you buy something and believe the price to go up and then sell it when you believe it has reached the peak. Gambling is just one way and it's like running in the race with a step behind as the house edge acts against you.
Then too, yeah risk is always there in trading, holding, etc because price changes very much unexpectedly.
1934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are You Holding On To Your Bitcoin? on: June 21, 2017, 09:26:02 AM
At this point of time holding your bitcoin is the best decision, there's been no holding when it comes to the price of bitcoin and every time there's a price drop,the price rally in a few days I guess experts prediction are all right that this year we will see the price of price going to $5000 or more.
Oh well if aiming for best profits might be much better to hold until this year end as we knew that some experts said that it will break 3k$ and hit up to 5k$ with this strong hype I guess holding it would be the best thing to do and if you still have spare fiat you can continue buying it now with cheaper value.
Yes, some of the experts opinion about bitcoin is that its price will reach up to this much high but I think it will not be wise if we only listen to these experts because the expert were predicting that the price fall will be after 1st august and here is it we can see that most of the experts were wrong because we faced a crash in the prices.
1935  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Falling...Is it Panic Time? on: June 21, 2017, 07:43:58 AM
Better to sell at all time high and invest in other low price crypto currencies like ethereum. If you keep bitcoin at $2,400 and it will rise to $4,800, you will have a 100% profit. But if you buy another alt coin at e.g. $30 and it will rise to $300, you will have a 1000% profit!
It seems the bitcoin price is not too down too deep. Current prices still range from $ 2400-$2500. If you are smart you will surely use this as an opportunity as it is usually a few days away. The price will rise at least to $ 2700 or $ 2800

The price of bitcoin now is pumping and it is like having a good support that will push the price to go up even higher anytime soon. The news are good as of now and they are one of the helpers of the price of bitcoin to pump more because of the hype and also the content of the news and i think panicking for selling is just applicable to people who bought bitcoin at the rate below $100.
In markets, always there would be some people who are buying and selling and triggering panic to make of the people to rush for buying and selling too. This is just another part of trading and you cannot blame anyone.

But we should follow some technical aspects so that we never will get panic to buy or sell. As per my analyses I'm not rushing right now to sell right now because I'm expecting bitcoin prices to reach at least $5000 levels before end of this year.
1936  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC is a roller coaster on: June 20, 2017, 08:41:55 PM
i really feel now its not gonna drop much . Many people have invested a lot on bitcoin .
That negative feeling itches me, I am not against your opinion that yes everything that rises too quickly usually falls with even higher speed but bitcoins since their known existence have only seen the path up and up only.

I know its normal the price would come close to 2k and then rise again but expecting a big fall is just beyond my thinking. Are you just saying this because BTC's earlier average price was around 800$ ? If so then mate a few yrs back it was like 100$
1937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BItcoin needs to die on: June 20, 2017, 10:33:40 AM
What use is Bitcoin if in 9 years you cant even buy groceries with this shit

You cant build a business on bitcoin because of the volatility and even if you try to runa business on bitcoin you have to wait forever for a transaction to be sent

whats the point of bitcoin, if you cant do anything with this shit?

You are wrong at least on one thing and I will try to show it. There is no need to wait "forever", as you call it, for a transaction to be confirmed because you always have an option to pay a decent fee and your transaction will be confirmed in 30 minutes.

When you are going to make a transaction check this site first https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

You can scroll down to the words "The fastest and cheapest transaction fee is currently ..." and if you pay that fee it's a 90%  chance that your transaction will be confirmed within the range of around 10 to 30 minutes.

For ordinary people a $2 fee might look too big, but if you are running a business that shouldn't be a problem.
Yes I agree with you the transaction time depends upon the transaction fee that you prefer to pay for your transaction. I have never faced such a huge delay in my transactions ever, though many of the people I see complaining about the delay in the transactions but when you ask for the transaction fees then you come to know that most of the people are miser who pay the least fee for their transactions.
1938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Getting started with sports betting! on: June 20, 2017, 08:27:55 AM
It doesn't vary very much between bitcoin sportsbooks. The ones I use all have a minimum bet of 0.001 - even the sites that allow for 0.0001, if you check the matches, very limited options for that bet size. If you're uncertain, you should always enquire support (these sites are also notoriously unclear about exact numbers as they don't always update ToC).
You are right since there are not many sportsbook with bitcoins the coverage is usually same though I would confess that directbet had the longest coverage of sports and after that I would rare nitrogensports.
The house edge is usually same but sometimes I feel like cloudbet has the best odds compared to any other site.
1939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: June 20, 2017, 07:46:44 AM
As you know that you need to stop and leave the game? How can you feel this moment. I almost always lose their money because they can't learn when to leave the game. I'm not sorry to lose. I have a lot of money not to lose, but I can't keep the winnings if I'm lucky.

I know what you feel man, i also feel that feeling. Always want more even you already win so much money on gambling. That's why i always make a target for each day on gambling, like 10-50% of my balance. When it reached, i can stop gambling or i can continue gambling but using my winnings money.
Actually the only way to stop gambling or leave gambling is by remembering how it feels when we loose.
I mean I was gambling a lot but lost a lot certainly and whenever I feel like gambling I just recall that moment and that hurts me and hence I am able to stay away from gambling, now after two weeks I have finally stopped gambling.
1940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: June 15, 2017, 05:05:38 PM
I would rather choose investment over the gambling if it comes to a greater amount of money.
Otherwise, you can always try your luck and earn much easier and faster if you gamble Wink

Frankly speaking many will say and choose that they'll go with investment. It's a popular way to grow our money or balance. While in gambling, your hope of growing your total money/bitcoin will be wasted because it is created and destined to make it's gamblers lose in the end. There will be some winner but it was just a deception.
But in that fact too many people play gambling and some of the players always think up that they invest in playing gambling to earn money .Its true that investment is a way to grow our money but in the sense of right investments snd not risking to gamble our funds in a easy money gameplay only.
This is how what they think but we all know that the reality is quite different from it. I agree that the gambling seems easy way of winning the money but it is not actually.
People who think of it that they are investing in gambling they actually are not interested in a real hard work or maybe for a full time job. The investment on the other hand is a full time job with a lot more opportunities to earn money.
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