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1961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Do you trust whattomine.com? on: September 22, 2017, 01:59:48 PM
Dont trust them

they are consitently way way optimistic on thier reports, for instance they still have not updated the ETHereum profits with the difficulty bomb diff increase and its been over 48 hours since that happened, this means to me they are updating the difficulties
manually or with a delayed script and not polling from the the block chains directly .

In crypto you need timely data to know when you should move your rigs to another algo or currency, whatamine is too slow for this.
1962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: September 22, 2017, 08:52:39 AM
claymore please fix the problem with amd blochain driver... it's exhausting see the mh change down and up every restart...
im I'm going to go back at 16.9.1 crimson driver

Happens after any disconect too
1963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: September 22, 2017, 08:01:06 AM


ouch diff bomb finally hit this week - 20% diff increase , like the lower prices were not enough pain

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/15602/difficulty-bomb-activated
1964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 20, 2017, 11:15:07 PM
Guys

I am trying to get my hands on these 8 x slot Colorful motherboards via my contacts in China.

The board was just launched and my contacts will get in touch with me on how to get them in bulk at the right price (ie. not from crazy resellers and huge markups).

Will revert as soon as I have more info.

Thanks

Nice I look forward to testing it.

I got some info from my guy in China.

1. He said he could get them at 220 USD per mobo and payable in BTC only.

2. The above price is without shipping - he can arrange it for DHL, Fedex etc.  - additional charges for this.

3. Taxation when goes through US Customs or Europe, Asia - I have no eye deer  Grin

My thoughts:
1. I think that price is on the high side. I dont mind giving my guy some markup for his efforts but gut feel this price a tad above my comfort level.

2. I don't see it selling in any of the China online markets yet - Aliexpress, TaoBao, AliBaba - I reckon we wait awhile more since this Colorful announcement was just last week.

3. I would not recommend buying in bulk - maybe 1 or 2 units for testing - and when we see better pricing from him or elsewhere then we group order for higher qty.

4. I would wait for awhile more for the mobo to officially get into the market - I think think this board no more than 150$-180$ (maybe).

5. This mobo is marketed by Colorful a massive IT company in China - currently largest NVIDIA distributor and they make their own OEM cards too.

This seller is my trusted seller - bought many mining stuff from him and he is quite resourceful getting the parts I need in China for my farms.

Let's discuss further this in this thread.

I have never done any group buys, escrows etc. so I may need Phil to suggest better options, for those who wants to buys now at that 220$ price.




Piggybacking on this I would like two to demo as well , ... $220 is fine for a few demo units

I usually get two in case one is a dud when i test out new boards.
1965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 20, 2017, 05:44:14 PM
why even buy vega, price on Rx 570 4gb is now $250 or so

half the price of the vega 56 at $549 , two of those mine more xmr than a single vega for around the same powe?

am I totally off with the numbers here?  I understand you can achive higer density with the vega but , at $550 , might

as well get teo 580 or add a bit more for 1080ti ?
1966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 20, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
I'm seriously considering a couple of Vega 56's now... But I have a bit of a dilemma. I've got a thin client in the living room that's basically using iGPU. It's connected to my NAS, acts as a media server basically (it's running Kodi and also acts as a bluetooth receiver/air-port-thinngy for streaming music from ipad/iphone devices.

I could add one or two Vegas on that board and mine away but there are 2 problems: noise and temperature - see, that thing is tucked away inside a cupboard. I however would still want to expand this rig because I want to use it as a local pc to play games on occasionally in the living room. Unfortunately it's driven by a Celeron and sports 4GB of ram.

In the end I'm probably gonna have to take this little rig out of the cupboard, and put a new one in instead with a beefier cpu, more ram and a decent GPU if I want to run games from it. But I won't be able to use it for mining. I could recycle the old one though and put a few Vega's on. If I had space to put it anywhere... Sad

Choices, choices...

Vega's use so much power and are inferior to 1080 TI as well.

Why not buy those ?
1967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer D3's will be obsolete by June 2018 on: September 20, 2017, 12:32:17 AM
To all,

I have calculated that it no longer makes sense to buy anymore Antminer D3's or any other Dash mining equipment because they amount you get per day will $2/day by June 2018.


My calculation is based on the current rate of growth and factors in $0.18/kwh.

So buyer beware unless they come out with a new miner of 100GHS @ 1200watt, then you can make a little money per day but just know when buying these miners, you have to be within the first 3 batches to make money for 6 months and then its over.

Not saying buyer beware but buyer be educated!


I get your point but quoting per day statistics 10 months out does not work here.  I'm not saying it will be better but telling people it will make $2 per day is baseless.  Hardware could be stale and dash price rockets or other way around newer greater stuff will come out and dash sinks and these won't even squeeze out a penny a day.

youre not factoring in price rising
1968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 19, 2017, 05:56:37 PM
so lucky with that first batch D3 grats , I have 5 cominng in nov and ordered 6 l3+ last week
asic mining is where im focusing on more in 2018 until volta comes out , Ill buy

a few more rigs when asics are out of stock but i think asics are thr better investment 2018 with possible eth pos
1969  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 19, 2017, 03:22:55 AM
Yeah my plan was alot more risky , but I figured once the garage and power was hooked up its a one time cost and I was using the huge profits from the Eth spike
1970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 19, 2017, 02:57:15 AM
I have a 20kW solar array that I installed myself.  Total cost was around $30k all inclusive.  The quotes I got were over twice that.

I have a net metering agreement with my POCO, so what I don't use goes back on the grid and the POCO credits me at the same rate I pay, so 1:1.  I'm in VA.

Before I started mining, I was actually building up a bank of kWh with the POCO since I didn't consume as much as I generated.

In June I generated 2,580 kWh and consumed 2,348,

In July I started mining and generated 2,846 kWh and consumed 3,974 kWh.

August was crazy hot.  I generated 2,474 kWh and consumed 5,245 kWh.

My kWh rate is fixed year around and is about $0.12 with everything included.  With the solar and assuming I consume twice as much as I generate, my effective rate is about $0.06 per kWh.  I plan to add another 6.5 kW array, which I can do for about $4,800 since I already have the inverters and just need to get the panels and some Ironridge rails and hardware.

Very nice, a small solar array is in my future I think next year
1971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 19, 2017, 02:13:46 AM
I see, seems very complex way outa my league , I guess since your partner owns it you can operate at a whole different level.

@lonerangir buisness rate schedules are very diffrent from residential in pretty much all states ,
they call it the demand rate , basically you pay a higher fee if you dont use a minimum amount of power I think its like 1000kwh

https://www.xcelenergy.com/staticfiles/xe/Regulatory/Regulatory%20PDFs/rates/MN/MNBusRateCard.pdf

for example my total summer rate for 6000kwh this month was .03 + .025 plus the peak demand charges which came to .10 cents summer rates which is great since it includes fees and taxes

in comparison im paying .15 cents summer rates residential in the house and when u add fees taxes and fueul charges its closer to .25 cents

In the winter comercial rates are even better I expect to be paying. .06 or less october to april vs .15 residential
1972  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Win 10 claymore ETH 6 GPU 1070 FE - Reboots When Mining Starts on: September 18, 2017, 09:26:56 PM
Mostly likey you dont have enough power for the intital fire up, disable 3 of the cards and try clamore to see
1973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 18, 2017, 08:38:41 PM
1080 tis would be better than Rx due to lower tdp?  I really love
Rx cards due to thier dual mining prowess and i dont even dual mine smh

p.s why only 52kw? are you not doing 240 or 208v ? 1200 amps at 240 would be far
more power?
1974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 18, 2017, 08:36:18 PM
Buy the fans yourself and calculate maybe 35$ an hour, 3 hours maybe + transport ?  God.  Damn.  So much electricity coming in.  wow.  im pretty jealous. Its a nice project, you can browse grow-op forums too, we have similar....ventilation needs.  

edit:  check this old house on youtube, you can install those yourself if you are comfortable with that kind of work.

yeah he has 600 amp service

I have 150

the solar array has 400

but if we do the solar array expansion  we will add

400+400+400 = 1200 amps.

this translates to about 39kwatts in the winer  and 52kwatts in the summer

We could run about 200x  1080 ti's

we are planning a mix

1080 ti's
1070

amd 64
amd 56


bitmain s-9
avalon 721
avalon 741

maybe some ltc or x11 or d3 asics

my god 400 amps from a solar array? thats insane how many panels did that take? thats another reason Im heaitant to install roof fans since at some point I want solar on my house roof and the garage I was told i could fit 100 panels

between the house and garage , how much power could I generate with 100 solar panels?  and can u raise the panels higher on the roof so it covers the vents?
1975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 18, 2017, 08:30:32 PM
Buy the fans yourself and calculate maybe 35$ an hour, 3 hours maybe + transport ?  God.  Damn.  So much electricity coming in.  wow.  im pretty jealous. Its a nice project, you can browse grow-op forums too, we have similar....ventilation needs.  

edit:  check this old house on youtube, you can install those yourself if you are comfortable with that kind of work.
@fr4nkthetank , thanks for the tip? 3 hours to install six fans though? yes I am ordering the fans from zoro , they have a 20 percent discount on hvac gear. 

Only reason I have so much power is I got tired of paying residential rates and the heat generated by my 30 gpu rigs, as well as the constant brownouts in the summer.

the power company only offered buisness demand service in my residentail zone for 500 or more amp service so I had to go big needed a city permit for a whole new pole and transformer which took three months for approval.

total project cost for my electrician was 15k , which i only had. due to the spike in eth prices from feb to march
1976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 18, 2017, 08:01:03 PM
@philipma1957  thats an excellent picture and yes its pitched like that but less of a slant around 50% less slant

I cant risk any gap under the garage door because of the sound of the miners fans and all, Its alreay loud as hell outside with only 10 or so rigs and my goal is for
a bunch of Asics and some more rigs so the less sound the better since this area is residential and metal thieves everywhere here


 Standard gable-type fans just under the roof should work - and less worries about leakage.


wont you have to still open holes in the roof? I still need a roofer and an electrician to install the fans , I wonder how much it costs to install 8 fans lol and two with curbs
1977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 18, 2017, 07:16:16 PM
@philipma1957  thats an excellent picture and yes its pitched like that but less of a slant around 50% less slant

I cant risk any gap under the garage door because of the sound of the miners fans and all, Its alreay loud as hell outside with only 10 or so rigs and my goal is for
a bunch of Asics and some more rigs so the less sound the better since this area is residential and metal thieves everywhere here

acording to your picture I can go with six of those fans three on each side at the angles you propose for a total of 9000CFM and maybe skip the space under the door ?



you can see that ugly ass mast in the back

here are some more pics of the build

600 amp service



3 200amp panels (partially filled with 30amp 240V



12 30 amp power receptacles (lp-30)

thanks


okay  you can have passive vents for intake on the roof

top view of roof

** fixed images

______________________________________
fan
fan                                                    intake
fan
______________________________________

fan
fan                                                   intake
fan
____________________________________



SO   with the amount of power  you want  you may need 9000 cfm

I use 3200 cfm for 10-13kwatts  in the summer it is barely enough



Ahh very smart man Genius, I could even use low cost supply vents right instead of passvive for intake maybe ? to help move the air along better ?

here are some supply vents that are gravity based

https://www.zoro.com/dayton-gravity-roof-vent-26-in-sq-base-2rb71/i/G3096956/

maybe one or two of those and as a backup if we are not gettiing enough SP or air flow two of these

** edit removing this one its at 27 sones !! , two of the 14 inch ones are 7.5 sones each sound wise and add up to the same CFM so much better
** these are also downblast supply so I think these are filtered air , most downblast exhaust fans like the ones used on restarurnts filter outgoing air
so I sounds to reason these should too
***

removed this one too loud
Code:
https://www.zoro.com/dayton-supply-vent-18-in-4yc58/i/G1196781/

those suppluy fans seem quite powerful 3600 or so CFM they might be to loaud for my build

maybe a 14 inch unit or two but the CFM dropps a ton down to 1600

https://www.zoro.com/dayton-exhaust-vent-14-in-4yc89/i/G1750926/

Removed as well too loud  19 sonnes
Code:
heres a better one 

https://www.zoro.com/dayton-supply-vent-16-in-4yc56/i/G0789792/ 16 inch $200 cheaper 2300 cfm

1978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 18, 2017, 05:24:05 PM
@philipma1957  thats an excellent picture and yes its pitched like that but less of a slant around 50% less slant

I cant risk any gap under the garage door because of the sound of the miners fans and all, Its alreay loud as hell outside with only 10 or so rigs and my goal is for
a bunch of Asics and some more rigs so the less sound the better since this area is residential and metal thieves everywhere here

acording to your picture I can go with six of those fans three on each side at the angles you propose for a total of 9000CFM and maybe skip the space under the door ?




you can see that ugly ass mast in the back

here are some more pics of the build

600 amp service


3 200amp panels (partially filled with 30amp 240V


12 30 amp power receptacles (lp-30)

thanks
1979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: If BTC doesn't close this week above $3000 gpu mining is done on: September 18, 2017, 02:14:54 PM
The market is not so volatile...
people are more volatile than anything

2 or 3 days is enough to think the whole cryptos are going to end, to stop mining etc

Cryptos up for months = cool, I love cryptos, Cryptos are the future

Cryptos down for 2 days = OMG run to the hills



yup lol , my portfolio was at 10k friday now its back too 25k

panic in a volatile market is dumb , when stuff goes down near 100 percent in a few days you have to know its irrational fear and HODL
1980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 18, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

ZORO has a 20% sale on all HVAC and other equipment right now till the 20th


Looking into these two option

1

thinking of grabbing this gravity vent

https://www.zoro.com/dayton-gravity-vent-24-in-base-28-12-in-sq-1wdn3/i/G1320681/

and one of these as well

https://www.zoro.com/dayton-gravity-roof-vent-34-in-sq-base-2rb73/i/G0890574/

then using a side wall Intake fan to bring in air :

either the captive air one with a filter here


https://www.zoro.com/soler-palau-belt-drive-motor-13hp-1ph-479-rpm-ksf12ph1s/i/G8726046/



2 OR go the cheap safe route

https://www.zoro.com/dayton-ventilator-power-attic-115-v-1500-cfm-10n202/i/G4262675/

each of those are 1500 CFM , come with humidifer control, only problem is it does not match my roof color oh well maybe i can have them painted ?

I could buy around 5 or six and space them nicely around the garage roof (its huge btw like a guest house)

6x1500 CFM would be a whopping 9000 CFM of exhuast really cheap too total price would be around $600 after the discounts

there are around 24inches wide though, most i could do is around 8.

Another issue with this is the multiple holes in the roof, If in the future I decided to go with a more powerful single or dual unit install, all those hoes would have to

be patched, unless maybe I group them all in one area , but  I would rather spread them around to spread out the heat right ?




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