Well, don't look now, but...

I think you misinterpreted my comment, I didn't trust them at all.  In fact, I've grown to distrust all mixers, and especially the ones new on the scene.  The obvious exception was CM, but they had been around long enough to prove their trustworthiness before I even joined the forum.

The operative word in my comment which you quoted is "seemed."  And they did seem legit at first; they developed a unique structure for their mixer, they appeared really committed to their technology, and they seemed excited about their project.  The whirlwind account was engaged, approachable, and articulate.  It doesn't mean I trusted them, but I did get the impression that, given time, they were the most likely to gain the community's trust the way CM had.  


I couldn't agree more.  This thread is full of deflections and obfuscations from otherwise intuitive people.  It seems like there's an effort by many reputable members here to disconnect their own actions from any culpability.  On the one hand I don't think there's any need to do so, no one is blaming the sig-campaigners for whirlwind's exit scam so it seems more like a manifestation of their own guilt or shame for being involved.  But on the other hand, we're all in new and uncharted territory.  A forum with it's own internal economy is somewhat unique, and most of us have probably never participated in one before joining Bitcointalk.  Couple that with new and developing markets and services within the cryptosphere, and it's enough to confuse the most sophisticated among us.  We should be looking at this event as a learning experience and take a more measured approach next time we're faced with a similar situation.

There was a time when buying and selling forum accounts was acceptable, but when it became obvious that many were using purchased accounts to scam other members it also become obvious a change was needed.  When some start abusing the policies and traditions of the forum, we evolve.  There may come a time when we as a community decide that advertising for startup mixers is too high a risk for the community, and the practice becomes unacceptable.

Which brings me back to the comment in my first post in this thread; mixers are notorious for turning into exit scams.  I haven't ran the numbers, but I surmise that more mixers have exit-scammed than any other service that is promoted through sig campaigns on this forum.  Now, I don't want anyone to misinterpret me again; I have nothing against mixers, and I'm a firm believer in privacy.  I stepped down from a higher paying sig-campaign to advertise for CM because I believed in them and the service they provided.  But mixers are centralized services that can only claim to provide privacy, and we have to trust that they'll do what they claim.  That alone goes against the first things we learn when entering the world of cryptocurrencies; don't trust, verify.  And don't get me started on the often claimed but ridiculous promise of anonymity.  No one can assure your anonymity when you're using an unknown centralized service.

Sorry for your loss, Shasan.

I helped Devawnm367 out with a few loans, and he always paid back.  Sometimes he was really late, but he always had a believable excuse.  The last communication I received from him was in April of 2022, and at the time he was having some real trouble with a death in the family and a messy separation which included a custody battle over his daughter.  He was having a really tough time and seemed extremely depressed.  He never struck me as a scammer, and I doubt he intended an exit scam over BTC0.0043.  I just hope he's okay, and to be honest I'm more worried about his health and safety after reading this thread.

Have you tried exchanging your Dinars to USD or Euros through one of the digital banking apps?  I've used Revolut, and I just checked to make sure and they do list Algerian Dinars.  I imagine there are others, but that's the one I'm familiar with.  If you have a Revolut account and convert your Dinars to Euros or USD, you can take advantage of the markets on Bisq.network.  Most of the offers for Revolut are for Euros, but that shouldn't be a problem, it's one of the markets with the most offers.

You can't delete topics once someone else has responded.  You can only lock them, the link is at the bottom left of the topic page.  Before locking the topics, you might want to edit the first post to indicate that you are no longer seeking a loan.

Well, what are you waiting for?

Sent BTC0.0251 ce109eb691c938bcb9e2c72e6d291fa085ee726510cbb9aa1a22e5025aea6d85

I prefer to receive the repayment in on-chain bitcoin, if you don't mind.  Fees are sort of reasonable right now, but if they're obnoxious when it's time to pay, we can discuss how to proceed at that time.

Are you willing to accept, and repay in bitcoin?

Exactement. Personne ne t'accordera un prêt sans garantie et tu prétends avoir une garantie physique. C'est pourquoi je t'ai suggéré de contracter un prêt auprès d'une personne dans ton pays, cela facilitera le transfert de ta propriété physique. Tu habites en France, n'est-ce pas?

La raison pour laquelle je suggère de faire votre demande dans la section française est que vous prétendez détenir une garantie physique. Pourquoi n’en avez-vous pas parlé ?

Désolé pour la traduction de Google.

Most of these top-grossing movies made it to the list without my support.  I've seen less than half of them, and if it wasn't for parenting I could easily have missed most of the ones I have seen (highlighted.)  Maverick I watched with my girlfriend, but she's too young for it to be nostalgic.

As for my favorite movies; The Godfather trilogy, most of Stanley Kubrick's and Sergio Leone's movies, and anything with a cameo by Deborah Harry.  

Who the fuck is this moron?  Doesn't he know that I'm in charge?

Since you're offering physical goods as collateral, there may be a chance you'll get a loan from someone in your local area.  This the global lending section, where you'll find lenders from all over the planet making physical collateral impractical for most of the lenders in this section.

Post your request here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=211.0

In which country are you located?

Lol.  I was being sarcastic, but only kinda half-assed.  Of course "investing" in alts is as much of a gamble as any game offered by a casino.

Vispilio really nailed it with Radiant Capitol, it appears that's one of the better performing alts of the year so far.  It was trading at a fraction of a penny at the turn of the year, and now it's still up over 100x.  I'm not up on shitcoinery either, but man, makes me think I should put $100 in each of the alts Vispillio chooses next year.  

It would be helpful to gather some screenshots and other evidence, and submit a scam accusation.

What JeromeTash is politely trying to say is that you don't have any collateral, which answers my initial question about the point of this request.  The promise of "frozen crypto" isn't collateral, and all your doing is wasting people's time.

Remember that time I trolled you with a 1 sat fee rate?  I don't think it took two weeks.  That was funny, this is sad.

I had the same issue with the same fee rate on the same day.  It was a good fee when I signed the TX, at least that my story and I'm sticking with it.  Eventually I got it to confirm by tacking the change onto another transaction, and having the CPFP.

Sorry man, but this sounds like gas-lighting and deflection.  To be honest, I don't care.  You can use whatever logic or philosophical gymnastics you want to excuse and justify the signature you wear, that's not my point.  I've worn signatures for two mixing services so far during my tenure here, both ended up shutting down due to seizures or fear of such.  I've yet to advertise any scams thankfully, but in retrospect, how could I have known before hand?  The truth of the matter is that any centralized mixing service is shady by design, and needs to be if the operators are to maintain their own security and privacy.  That alone makes them among the services most likely to exit scam.  They have little to no incentive preventing them from pulling an exit scam, and if the feds start sniffing closer, it might be the only way to avoid prosecution.  That doesn't even take into account whether the service is pulling a profit or not.

What's ironic is that whirlwind seemed like the most legit mixer to pop up in the post CM days, yet here we are.

I'm not saying people should stop advertising mixing services, but if you do don't spread the BS too thickly, it starts to stink.