Može biti plagiarizam ili "altcoin giveaway", premda nisam siguran da za ovo drugo daju permaban. Možda je ovaj post u pitanju https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3738779.msg51185186#msg51185186? Nisam siguran zapravo da li ovo spada pod plagiarizam s obzirom da je post ipak označen sa " ", možda je u pitanju neki drugi post  phplog mi nije pomogao da bar otkrijem u čemu je problem, samo kaže
"Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1039574"
Pregledao sam par tema oko tih banova i nisam ništa našao. U svakom slučaju vrijedi pitati u meti. |
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@marlboroza These are the relevant parts of BetKing's stance on buybacks. You are under the assumption that this was all a personal loan I got from investors.
It was an investment in a business. With all investment in any business there was risk.
There was no "deal". There was no "guaranteed" buybacks.
You do know that the price of the original token could easily have dropped to 100th of the original ICO price too right? Where in your image does it say the word guarantee?
It says BetKing will offer to buy "up to 10%" That sounds different than this: I'm buying tokens back with my own profit, the 30 million tokens I keep from the ICO.
There's not going to be any significant reduction in bankroll, max 10% every 3 months.
Yes I will then be making a profit on the tokens I hold, the ones not being sold plus the ones I buy back, that's pretty normal and how most businesses work.
Remaining token holders have the benefit that their tokens have much more value the longer they hold them.They can choose to never sell them back to me for many years or if the site was to be sold.
There's no dilution going on at all. This: The buy back price will always be profit divided by 100,000,000 as there will always be that many tokens.
No tokens will be burned. Eventually I will hold all tokens at some time in the future, depeding on when holders want to sell. This: My buy back price does not reduce after buying back. So if sa I bought 10% of tokens back for $1 or whatever after first quarter.
The remaining tokens are still worth $1 and then have the profit of next 3 months added on top of that This: So what I meant is if someone wants to sell me 10% of their tokens I will buy them.
I can't say sorry I'm only going to buy 4%.
But a token holder doesn't need to sell their tokens, they can continue to hold.
Also token holders are free to make an offer to sell more than 10% and sometimes I might do so. And now completely different model: We actually have been buying at the lowest sell order for what it's worth which is currently 13 sats. It was 1 sat soon after launch of token so as anyone can see the price has been increasing very quickly all based on the fact that the new site has been bringing new traffic and players. Much more than the old platform did.
A percentage of the profit made from bankrolled games will be used to buy back BetKing Bankroll tokens from holders. Dean said he bough back 70% of tokens IIRC. He could have done this if site made $4.5M profit($6.5M raised on ICO, IIRC), but yet again: I did say that 600 btc (the bankroll funds since we made no profit) was used to buy back tokens. That is 600 btc that comes right out the bankroll. So when I changed to this model I owned 70% of all BKB (you lot seem to want to ignore that fact, 600 btc of the original funds was used to buy these tokens). Businesses fail every day. It doesn't make them scams. Did his business fail? He was supposed to buy tokens with profit he made from bankroll... I'm buying tokens back with my own profit, the 30 million tokens I keep from the ICO. ...which he was supposed to use for " bounties, testing bounties, advisors, hiring, future marketing and development" anyway. All this brings me to one question: You are under the assumption that this was all a personal loan I got from investors.
as anyone can see the price has been increasing very quickly all based on the fact that the new site has been bringing new traffic and players. Much more than the old platform did.
Is site now mysteriously bringing traffic and players? What are the odds  |
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I figured that QS is posting assumption after assumption after assumption, always trying to find hidden meaning in everything. If you say sun is warm he will probably open thread and point out that you said sun is warm because he assumed that you are afraid of water and you can't swim Perhaps he should keep his assumptions to himself? |
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Bumping this with relevant post for this thread, as quacky decided to do his shit again (I obviously forgot to do it few days ago): marlboroza is a liar who likes to twist facts for the benefit of those who he is allied with. I would not take him seriously. He is intent on smearing and attacking anyone who is willing to speak out against any of his friends. And, I just noticed one post which quacky posted after this thread was created, I will quote this part: [...] What he posted is also not proof of anything, it does not show context, especially if there was communications before his alleged message he sent asking to be blacklisted from DT1.
...this post (redacted with links): ...and add this to collection: Accusing random people of of condoning violence and asking people not to do business with themAttacking suchmoon recently for plagiarism thingy...to agree with this: QS has a problem with you because he's essentially paranoid. Your request to be removed from DT1 with no explanation as to why has somehow caused alarm bells to go off in his autistic little head
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Don't you own a share of the bankroll?
No. You own a "share" of BetKing (the company) and not the bankroll. It is not share of company:  New tokens are not pegged to dollars, which was original ICO deal, I mean, token swap wasn't part of the deal, but since betking decided to do swap, value of BKT which BKB token holder got should be the same as value of BKB tokens, I mean, 1BKB = 0.092$/whatever = 20/30/whatever BKT... Investors are very aware of it too.
I am not sure why you are repeating "investors", while you clearly stated "token holders":  I'll just quote this again, seems betking missed it couple of times already: It says BetKing will offer to buy "up to 10%"
lol, nice attempt to weasel out of the deal. The "up to 10%" referred to if a user had X tokens, they could use "<= X/10" for buybacks. I brought this up almost 2 years ago. This is what BetKing.io answered: So what I meant is if someone wants to sell me 10% of their tokens I will buy them.
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At what price have you calculated buyback? Was price the same? If your question was in regards to table #2, I calculated the price of bitcoin at each quarter date (i.e. the 4th during the outlined months). If your question was in regards to table #1, everything was based on the minimum price of $3200 across the past two years. Table #1 was more for estimation and at-a-glance stats. Second table. At what price Dean bought tokens back? One investment of 3 BTC (13790.4 USD) would yield you 148507.43 BKB tokens* If buyback price was always 0.09286$ (BKB is pegged to $): Q1 14,850 @0.09286$ Q2 13,365 @0.09286$ Q3 12,029 @0.09286$ Q4 10,826 @0.09286$ Q5 9,743 @0.09286$ Q6 8,769 @0.09286$ Q7 7,892 @0.09286$ 77,474 tokens bought back for 7,194$ 71,033 BKB tokens left, that is (of course, BKT is not pegged to $): On the flipside, if you held the 148507.43 BKB, a conversion of 30 BKT = 1 BKB nets 4,455,222.9 BKT. 2,130,990 BKT @0.00000013 BTC = 0.277 BTC We actually have been buying at the lowest sell order for what it's worth which is currently 13 sats. It was 1 sat soon after launch of token so as anyone can see the price has been increasing very quickly all based on the fact that the new site has been bringing new traffic and players. Much more than the old platform did.
Or, 2,179$ (I took $7,869.94 as btc price) That is ~$9,373.   46,000 BKT @13 sats? Correct me if I am wrong. |
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At what price have you calculated buyback? Was price the same? |
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There was no "guaranteed" buybacks.
This is outrageous lie:  source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170809030225/http://betking.io/You lied to investors then you fucked them: Yes, Dean, you're right.
My 0.5BTC investment IS worth 528$.
Now you are making some token swaps/whatever to fool more people. I would suggest everyone to read this thread from the beginning. |
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Do you control the Tomatocage account?
I take your failure to answer a simple yes/no question 3 times as a "yes". You mean 4 times. |
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You edited something in post. |
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as the comment shows.
Nah, it's not what you said. |
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as your comment shows
He literally replied to The Pharmacist. The Pharmacist replied to LFC_Bitcoin and LFC_Bitcoin previously quoted your post. So, why do you think you are one of the 3 idiots?  |
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So the fact that I opened a bitcointalk account has exposed me to unlimited liability? That's pretty scary to me.  Lets suppose hacker hack account and made a 50btc deal and "send first", which could have happened here. Hacked person should send nearly half million dollars in this case?
Whoa whoa... unlimited... 50 BTC... is anybody really going to do that without as much as asking for a signed message? Back on planet Earth though, I'm with Darkstar_. If someone gets screwed due to my shitty opsec, I better be able to compensate or be labeled a scammer. Ok, in your opinion, where is the line between the "Earth" and normal? And, of course, in my opinion is anybody really going to do that without as much as asking for a signed message? is anybody going to do 200$ without signed message.... Please....don't pull lines... |
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Side note...
I was thinking, how does one prove that their account was hacked? I mean, it can happen to anyone, but how exactly will anyone prove that their account was hacked and they didn't scam?
If they reimburse then it's not really an issue, which is why it's generally expected that people do so. I can't agree with this. Lets suppose hacker hack account and made a 50btc deal and "send first", which could have happened here. Hacked person should send nearly half million dollars in this case? So the fact that I opened a bitcointalk account has exposed me to unlimited liability? That's pretty scary to me. No. |
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EDIT : anyone knows how to alert Telegram about that guy @iamanubis ?
Afaik you can't report anyone on Telegram. It is part of their "guidelines". The only thing you can report a user for, is spamming. I contacted their support, not sure they'll be able to do much though. Don't bother, I don't know for the rest of the world, but in my country you can get new phone number for 1$...sometimes for free... Side note... I was thinking, how does one prove that their account was hacked? I mean, it can happen to anyone, but how exactly will anyone prove that their account was hacked and they didn't scam? |
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{
"address": "0xbdc1e8a238572e8e282b791e993f571bf8640d83",
"msg": "This is kenzawak Signing a message on June 4 to prove ownership of this account due to bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150479.0",
"sig": "0x25063626fcf7b6f4a00008783ee4bcecd992887d2028d6950d6d49ab9fb8e18d66e8b69cbf4fde68c03e02d02ab7a9b21d9b1cb1519dd93eab2e3136c0afab651b",
"version": "3",
"signer": "MEW"
}
Verified. |
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Can you sign message from this address 0xbdc1e8a238572e8E282b791e993F571BF8640d83 ? On side note, why people don't ask those thingies before they make deal? No trading history, no escrow... |
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Like I said, I reset my password here about two hours ago. Do you guys think that's enough ?
Run anti virus. Maybe you are infected or something... |
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Would you feel more comfortable if I said "former owners as of immidiately prior to the dissolution of the company"?
I misunderstood you. Ok, lets try different approach. Which part of "bitmixer was under investigation for a year and domain is seized by Europol and FIOD" you don't understand? |
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