Are you approaching a point any time soon or simply finding an excuse to repeat yourself endlessly in the hopes that if you repeat yourself enough times people will believe your claims.?
Actually, TwitchySeal doesn't have to repeat anything. First you accused Flying Hellfish that he removed his own topic (which is off topic post btw, I have no idea why that post is not removed by moderators) which he said he didn't and then you accused him of removing another post which he said he didn't. TwitchySeal's suggestions are reasonable and in the middle of your trolling you didn't even realize that you accepted one of TwitchySeal's suggestions: If you think he's lying, call him out on it and maybe we can get to the bottom of it.
If you don't think he's lying, then remove the posts he says he didn't delete.
Or do nothing if you don't care if your accusations against FH are accurate or not. I don't care what he did or says. Well that is actually funny, you said this (reposting from another thread): This is one of my primary grievances with the culture of this forum. If you are right you get to feel good about yourself and tell everyone how great you are for preventing scams, raising your own profile in the process. If you are wrong, oh well it costs you nothing to seriously invade some ones privacy, disrupt their life, income, and possibly burn their reputation. No skin off your back, so fuckem right? I have hockey pads, I can be Batman too!
This mentality is exactly why systems of due process exist in law, and exactly why Theymos made some of the most recent trust system changes.
So if you are wrong, it cost you nothing to try to burn Flying Hellfish's reputation and get him kicked out of moderation position. Fuck Flying Hellfish, right? That is exactly what you are doing right now.
Now go and report my post as off topic because you don't like it. Silence me more. |
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Apples and oranges. So you mixed everything you could mix and created really weird thread. On the subject of coin mixing projects I saw split sentences, because it can be done and not everyone who uses it is criminals. Does not matter.. or matter.. You shouldn't drive car because criminals use roads. Don't use banks either because criminals have bank accounts. Also, rumor has it that criminals use internet so better go offline. Don't eat, criminals use dirty money to buy food, it is best to stay away from all stores. Grow your own food! When I figure out what other things criminals do, or, use, I will let you know. then why something that is tolerated by forum rules
It is tolerated probably because no one can really stop account trades. There was also something about "moderating something will lead to false sense of security" but I will have to double check this. is marked as a scam
Imagine trusted escrow sells their account. Would you consider that worth of tag? I mean, what can possible go wrong, account ends up in scammer's hands and easily pulls large scam. Would you consider that escrow person trustworthy? Or someone sells high ranked account to scammer and they do "exit loan scam". Or someone buys accounts and abuse everything they can (campaigns, merit, spam, shills for projects, bump...). Or someone sells DT account and they scam people who trusted original owner. Would you consider seller trustworthy in this case? Or someone sells hacked account, administration maybe ban account which is scamming buyer then. It is just shady as it can be, that's why. Not saying that all account buyers will scam/abuse, but why not sending neutral trust to accounts to make users aware that account changed owner or will change owner? Oh, probably because no one will buy account then(read above). |
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So is there a penalty for such users?
Gray area. I would say it depends on moderator, but you probably shouldn't waste your time reporting these kind of posts. |
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^ Da, baš gledam. Nisam ih detaljno proučio, ali na prvi pogled izgleda kao nekakva "zero risk" lending/investicijska platforma (inače imam svoje mišljenje o tim "lending platformama") gdje uložiš novce, dobiješ nekakve tokene, čekaš i dobiješ više love. Hm, moram ovako napisati, znači netko uloži lovu u pooltogether (kupi taj ticket) onda oni ulože lovu u ovaj compound i onda taj compound uloži tu lovu negdje, zatim daju nazad tu nekakvu kamatu ovima u pooltogether i oni daju 100% te kamate nekom sretniku, s time da pooltogether ima nekakve sponzore čija se kamata ne dijeli, ali nisu transparenti pa nitko ne zna tko su ti sponzori (koji također dobiju svoj dio kamate ispričavam se, sponzori ne sudjeluju u izvlačenju ali pridonose nagradi), i u cijeloj toj priči pooltogether ne uzima nikakvu zaradu ili bar fee. Zvuči komplicirano i neshvatljivo. iznosi 5,9% godisnje
mozda izgleda malo, ali je definitivno realno
Aha, da su napisali 200% onda bi zaključio da je nerealno i prevara, ali kad napišu 5.9% zaključuješ da nije?  zamisli da imas lutriju, kupis srecku za 100 kuna, i onda svake nedelje postoji sansa da dobijes 10-15 hiljada, a kad se smoris povuces tih 100 kuna u dzep  Da, ali ako sam dobro shvatio, oni prvo moraju tih 100 kuna izvući iz ovih drugih da tebi vrate. Ne znam, izgleda mi kao nekakva "dugoročna šema". |
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Iskreno, ne mislim da se ikome trebam opravdavati ili objašnjavati na koji način dajem merite, to je moja osobna stvar.
Komentiramo, dajemo mišljenja, pokoji savjet, kritiku, što se opravdavaš odmah i braniš  (kontradikcije budemo ostavili za svađaonu  ) Uostalom, theymos je rekao nešto u stilu "ako nemaš kome dati merit, radije pošalji 50 merita za jedan post nego da ti meriti stoje i propadaju" sa razlogom. Treba to cirkulirati.
Da, a onda te optuže za prodaju merita il nešto slično Ajmo ostaviti "forumsku politiku" za neku drugu temu. Mislim da se ovdje radi o tome da se "ne čuvaju" meriti, jer ako bi svi "čuvali" merite i čekali, niti bi tko slao niti bi itko primao niti bi itko "napredovao". Recimo, nemaš vremena a imaš nešto merita i vidiš dobar post - zašto ne poslati više merita onda? Pa taj korisnik koji dobije merite možda ima vremena i vidio je neki dobar post pa bude proslijedio te merite dalje. Ako je post odličan, zašto ne poslati više merita, tipa 10,20,50? U krajnjoj liniji, za to i služe meriti. |
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U biti moje slobodno vrijeme je jako ograničeno i nemam vremena čitati i pregledavati puno toga na ovom forumu, čak ne stignem pregledati ni sve postove na hrvatskom dijelu foruma.
Zbog toga mi jako dobro dođe onaj zbirni topic jer mi sačuva vrijeme koje bih inače morao utrošiti na traženje dobrih i kvalitetnih postova, vrijeme koje inače nemam.
Sad mi baš i nije najjasnije ovo sa ograničenim vremenom. Meni je recimo puno jednostavnije pročitati neki post i poslati merit nego slati merite za raznorazne "scam accusation" gdje zapravo moraš odvojiti nešto vremena da proučiš sve dokaze. Tamo ne bi smio trebao slati na slijepo... Opet s druge strane tipkaš u svakoj temi u hr djelu, pa sad da usput ne možeš nekom poslati merit nego očekuješ da netko diskutira s tobom i onda taj isti post ide prijavljivati u temi pa se vraćaš poslati merit, i moguće nastaviš diskusiju Nema mi to baš previše logike. Evo recimo jedan post koji po mojoj slobodnoj procjeni komotno može dobiti još koji merit je na vrhu ove stranice, sad, da li bi poslao merit da ga je Rikafip prijavio u onoj temi? Ili bolje, što bi se dogodilo u slučaju da nitko ne prijavi niti jedan post? Uostalom, theymos je rekao nešto u stilu "ako nemaš kome dati merit, radije pošalji 50 merita za jedan post nego da ti meriti stoje i propadaju" sa razlogom. Treba to cirkulirati. |
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@OP, read rules: 25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]
Looks like ban evasion
Hm, maybe it is not their account (brother, sister...aunt?) I also wrote posts of proof and auntification
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Kad vidim ovaj odnos postova i merita, u usporedbi sa ostalim lokalnim boardovima, nekako mi se cini da bi kod nas mogao komotno biti jos jedan merit source.
Ne bih se baš složio sa ovim, kvantiteta obično ne znači kvalitetu. Evo recimo za primjer ovaj post, što je ništa drugo nego shitpost čak i za onu temu gdje se "svađamo"...uostalom, čak je i merit source rekao da mora tražiti postove okolo po forumu: Čekam koliko mogu a ako se dugo nitko ne javi pregledam druge dijelove foruma i nađem tamo postove koje mogu ''nagraditi'' meritom [...] već ipak moram tražiti određeni standard ili kvalitetu ...što onda baš i nije dobra slika, zar ne? |
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Thanks to all DT members and all senior members for here to share your observation. The most important thing I learn from here, '' If you did wrong something and realize yes you did wrong and after that, if you apologize for your fault then you will get more and more punishment."
Why are you spamming my inbox? I have already told you my opinion. You advertised ponzi - I removed negative. Then you tried to sell fake reviews. What's next? I don't trust you.  Cryptobd School is redirecting to youtube, what are you teaching people here, to spam or are you just trying to get 2330 of your subscribers to sign under your referral link?  Of course, there must be something in the air in Bangladesh: Friends and/or family? Then again, that youtube channel in your profile:   I won't even bother to look at this profile, I suppose, it is your cat? |
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marlboroza 2020-01-27 Reference Using trust and moderators to silence people. marlboroza 2020-01-25 Reference Troll account [...] How much more clear does it need to be made that certain people are intent on using the trust system as a weapon to silence people who disagree with them? FTFY. Are you trying to say that because of my factual feedback on your account you can't type? That doesn't make any sense at all. You are just pissed because your attempt to silence someone who said something you don't like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220741.0 fail. |
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People are treating it as a wide net application systematically spamming ratings by the thousands. That is not productive and is just endless signal noise that makes valid negative ratings invisible. The trust system is like a donkey you just keep whipping over and over to make it work then finally you realize the donkey is dead and whipping it isn't actually accomplishing anything.
Lets take your old tagging just for the sake of discussion:  So you have tagged 1 account because they are ponzi scammer. Someone else did the same thing as you did by tagging account bitconnectcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1681719.0. Another user has tagged another ponzi scammer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196904.0. Someone else tags yet another ponzi scammer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155943.0, so that makes 4 of them. You are basically suggesting that only one account should be tagged/flagged, even thought they are all scammers. Which one would you pick to tag/flag? How? What if there is hundred such accounts(and there is)? |
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if anything i'm trying to rile myself up into leaving counter feedback, since i know it will lead to more unfounded accusations against me. i'm already called a "trust abuser" / "scam defender" / "malicious distractor" because i asked for actual real proof or consistency in DT feedback a couple times. I exactly know what you are talking about! I have also asked for proofs dozen times already for various things, but seems I am still trust abuser and mob! No proofs ever came! And seems some accounts have been excluded from someone's trust network because of the same thing! Crazy!
Anyway, regarding feedbacks on account TECSHARE 1) I countered Vod's feedback long time ago 2) I placed feedback "troll" because after closer look I figured out that user is trolling (I previously removed counter) 3) Someone told me why I shouldn't leave feedback if someone is troll so I removed -ve 4) Actually, this was second "trolling" feedback I had to remove, so no -ve for trolling, I get it! 5) What he does is speaking one thing and doing another (it is documented, if someone wants to pretend they don't see it, well, it is not my fucking problem) 6) It is obvious what TECSHARE did here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182990.msg52406348#msg52406348, well, we can discuss whether this is true or not, we can also all drop to room temperature IQ and talk whether lemon is yellow or red, or is fake coin scam or not, it is also not my problem) 7) His most claims are not backed up with any proof, like his claim in this topic for example ( I AM STILL WAITING FOR PROOF OF CONNECTION - someone also expressed strong opinion against this in that other thread, nothing about this in this thread, nothing about that in that other thread - DOUBLE STANDARDS!)  theymos should fix 8 9) T reminds me of politicians a lot, that is not good, for a trusted person, I can't trust users who he has on his trust list, no one should, that is really bad actually. Not to mention some inclusions he doesn't want to remove. 10) Finally, I was thinking a lot lately, TECSHARE is trusted trader but that doesn't mean he is not a big troll, still, I can trust him with trades as he has very long trading history, but some of his "actions"...uh uh uh...still, as I said, he IS trusted trader, should not be tagged <-- which is worth for this discussion. 11) And no, I won't stop pointing his nonsense and some weird theories which he has formed in his mind: Not really, it is just a low cost strategy to give the image of impartiality where none exists so they can abuse it later when it serves them. Marlboroza does the same thing.
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TMAN is more drunk.. TS is still a cunt,. Any more updates?
Don't drive. |
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As I can see from this thread, you wrote "farner" on their trust pages and timelord used neutral rating to correct you, it should be "farmer". Yes, he does that. tagged users without evidences or just for fun
You do understand that your rating on their trust pages is without evidence or just for fun or just retaliation? It is fake feedback. |
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For example, in the YoBit mass-ratings example above, ratings should be immediately removed after the person removes the signature, even if they maintain and continue to argue that they didn't do anything wrong. If someone agrees to "follow 'the law' without agreeing to it", that should be enough.
Which means that promoting scams is now an action that has a get-out-free card for negatives? It was always like that, you tag someone because they are advertising scam, if they remove signature (or any other scam advertising material) - you remove your negative or change it to neutral. At least that's how I was tagging and removing tags from scam promoters. I didn't remove negative from accounts who waited "too long" (if you know what I mean) to remove scam promotional material because I generally think they are high risk accounts, and if someone has been "neutralized" and they again choose to advertise another scam, that second tag I won't remove because user is just high risk. And, I removed few neutrals as well. |
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Let me know if you find anything good while you are digging through my shit looking for peanuts. I look forward to your future attempts at false equivalence, and whatever else you can come up with to "get me" in retribution for being critical of your friends. Lol, aren't you one narcissistic prick? I didn't even found this on your trust page! It still doesn't address my question, how did you connect accounts? First I thought it was because of that "keyword", but I couldn't find where quickseller used it before that date, so it has to be something else. |
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Dobar edukacijski video za sve novopečene korisnike koji ne znaju kako izgleda najčešća prijevara u ovim prostorima, valja pogledati, educirati se i nadalje izbjegavati ovakve gluposti. Samo profit, zarada, uloži, profitiraj, ako je sve tako divno i bajno onda "profesionali tim trejdera s višegodišnjim iskustvom" ne treba tuđe novce, naravno, trebaju tuđe novce jer je to tim profesionalnih varalica sa višegodišnjim prevarantskim iskustvom. Jebeno. Znači scam sa ograničenjem. Jer, ako zarada ide, zašto stati na 50k? Pravim ulagačima to je tek entry level ako ne i ispod njega. Takve očito ne želite kod sebe. Trebaju vam samo naivci koji će ući sa parsto dolara kojia budete vratili postotak uloženog pa kad ih se skupi dovoljno, jednostavno nestanete i to je to.
Nismo vesla sisali...
Pretpostavljam zato što ako netko uloži hrpu love odjednom sve će se odmah urušiti, ovako navlače ljude da prvo testiraju sa malo love, daju im nekakav profit, onda ljudi okolo reklamiraju i još više ulažu jer "ovo daje zaradu", u konačnici budu pokrali puno više od tog njihovog limita. Ne vidim drugi razlog zašto limitirati investiciju. |
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Since the mods seem to think this post is on topic for some reason... What does this rating have to do with the mobbing behavior regarding Quickseller? Am I creating several threads looking for Koshgel's alts and casting more accusations like is being done here? Do I have a years long vendetta with Koshgel, like the one that is being demonstrated here? Also, several of your pals tagged Koshgel before I even tagged him. These two things are no where near comparable. This is just more "NO U!" tactics designed to distract from criticisms of your friends you don't want to be too carefully considered. Well, "likely alt of well known member" happened in 2019 and "probably alt of quickseller" happened in 2015:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=557356" not saying that you are mobbing quickseller since 2015. or anyone else here", just help me to understand, newtons1 registered account on 25. September 2015. and wrote 27 posts till 27. September 2015., which is the time you "accused" them of being Quickseller's alt account. Sorry, "probably" QS's account. Based on what have you made those 2 connections? There have been multiple examples in the past in which negative trust was removed after no-collateral loans have been repaid, and when stolen money has been returned to it's rightful owner. Often times a neutral rating replaces such negative rating, however this is nowhere nearly as detrimental as a negative rating.
I don't understand the logic that someone who has caused no monitory loss should be labeled a scammer when someone who took money and later returned it late is not.
- "monitory" This sounds like a sure fire way to corrupt the merit sources and change merit from being a reward for making posts the forum needs more of to something with monitory value.
Until this happens, it is most likely that deposits and withdrawals will not be processed due to the high risk of monitory loss.
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Ja ušao u ovo što mi je u potpisu, kako bi ona vještica u Hugu rekla, sigurno ću pogriješiti Dosad sam se trudio proučiti detaljno pa nije ispalo sjajno, sad rekoh idem lupiti napamet pa što bude  Hmm, Milky Way? Ne, ozbiljno, tko bi normalan uložio u nešto tko stavi za adresu Croatia, planet Earth? Svašta, taman kad pomislim da sam vidio sve u ICO svijetu... U svakom slučaju, sretno s tim bountijem, nisam išao u detalje ali nekako mi se čini..."vrlo čudan" projekt. |
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