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Solange der Bitcoin nicht versagt, wird er steigen, unter starken Schwankungen.
Es gibt aber auch viele Risiken, die zum sofortigen Abschuss führen können: Technisch, organisatorisch, staatliche Eingriffe, Angriffe durch mächtige Interessengruppen, rechtlich, steuerlich, und bestimmt noch viele mehr. Betrachte es wie die Aktien eines Unternehmens: kann lange gut gehen, und plötzlich versagen.
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It's too easy to call all altcoins crap. Yes, 99% are crap. But there will be development, and it's hard work to find the 1% of innovative altcoins that have a chance.
If you don't want to consume too much time, then only buy Bitcoins.
If you buy altcoins to get rich quick, you already have lost.
And give not too much on volatility. Your win or loss is only on the trade itself, not on the exchange rate.
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Do VPN services relay all other ports than 80 and 443 only?
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deposits are running again
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Hey, vircurex isnt that good, and some people claim its a scam. It seems you have pretty much lost your BTC!  Maybe next time use a more reputable system. If you really want your btc back, repeatedly contact vircurex! Anyways, I wish you good luck with getting your 2 btc back! Some people claim it a scam? I want to have any proof or at least a hint from you! I traded for months now and never had bigger problems. |
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I have sent 2 payments (one of 180,000 DVC and one of 145,000 DVC) to my Vircurex account, and both have just DISAPPEARED. Not a SINGLE confirmation. Just NOTHING happening. My wallet says that there are confirmations going through, but my Vircurex is getting no credit and says nothing is coming in.
I'm trying to buy the dragon, but I can't do that without Vircurex...
Here is my Vircurex address, it worked like a week ago:
1CqjSECeznGburyASi3igMaengMqR3VEjq
If they are "disappeared", this has nothing to do with vircurex. Take a look into the blockchain first. |
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Weird, I never saw that option, and I visited the "My open orders" or whatever.
Maybe they changed, but when I was using it nobody bought my novecoin (scam now x_x) for weeks o.O
Some exchanges have their favorites (based on volume), for vircurex this are LTC and PPC. I know they have been hacked some months before. But since they did not scam their customers for it, I trust them. And Mt.Gox also was hacked in 2011. For searching the exchanges with the largest trading volume you can look here: http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/If clicking on "NVC/BTC", you get a list of exchanges sorted by volume. And indeed there is nearly no volume for NVC on vircurex. But for PPC it's the second largest exchange. |
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vircurex is very bad IMO, I could never find a way to cancel my order. So my coins just sat there, and nobody really uses that exchange anymore, I think.
I can cancel my orders, press simply the "Delete" Button in the "My current open orders" list. And at least I use this exchange, and my trading partner, and from the column "Volume" one can see there are many others. |
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We had the same symptoms some weeks ago. I don't think this is a serious problem, but somebody has to wake up the admin.
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It seems to be a general problem. I wait on the deposit of Peercoins. I wrote to the support, without any answer yet. A similar problem happened a few weeks ago, I think we have to wait a little bit. I somebody has a more direct way to contact the admin, please help ...
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Verhindern kann das nur die Politik, aber die will oder kann nicht. Sie wird selbst von der Finanzmafia gut geschmiert. Da gibt es außerdem noch die Staatsanleihen, die von der Finanzwelt in großem Stil gekauft werden, und deshalb zu großer Abhängigkeit des Staates führen. Dass die Bürger ihr Schicksal noch immer nicht begriffen haben, sieht man am Wahlausgang. Es wird also auch in Zukunft nur kleine Demonstrationen gegen die Zustände geben, denn es geht uns ja verhältnismäßig gut. Wer mehr über die Zustände erfahren will, sollte sich über die Nachdenkseiten informieren: http://www.nachdenkseiten.de/Es wird keine nennenswerte Rente mehr geben, die Zweiklassengesellschaft existiert bereits. Wer versteht, sollte dieses Glück, rechtzeitig in Bitcoins investiert zu haben, nicht in überflüssigen Konsum, sondern in die Menschen investieren. Dafür wird es zukünftig reichlich Gelegenheit geben. Der Gewinn dieses Konsum-Schrotts findet sich bekanntermaßen sowieso bald in Steueroasen wie Panama oder anderen. Ich selbst werde vermutlich als Multimillionär sterben, da ich als Anti-Zykliker den Reichen das Fell über die Ohren ziehe, und das mit Freude. Goldman Sachs hat gerade gemeldet, der Goldpreis würde sinken. Warret Buffet sagt dazu: "There is no free lunch". Manipuliert ruhig, was das Zeug hält, es macht mich reich. Das schöne an Bitcoins ist auch, dass es bei mir zu einer totalen Gewöhnung an beliebig hohe Schwankungen geführt hat. Ich kaufe nur Werte, an die ich tatsächlich glaube, und da kann mir die Schwankung nicht hoch genug sein. |
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I think this is a bit offtopic here. I bought some Indonesia and Thailand shares, supporting the price a little bit. |
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FYI, "neoliberalism" is not really a widely used term outside of Germany.  And even then, they seem to mean slightly different things. And Krugman is just another of the Wizards of Oz. In this article he's pointlessly rambling about food stamps. Yes, probably the US Republicans are wrong, people do need food stamps as long as we live in a dictatorship of banking, corporotocracy and the military-industrial-oil-complex. But ultimately, we want to fix the causes rather than the symptoms, don't we? Yes, you are right. But till then we have to help the victims. |
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Nun mal ganz grundsätzliches: Der Public Key ist wie die Kontoverbindung zum Einzahlen eines Betrages. Der zugehörige Private Key ermöglicht den Zugriff auf den Kontostand. Es ist deshalb überhaupt kein Problem, den Private Key auf mehrere Rechner zu verteilen, wenn man weiß, was man tut.
In meinem Fall hat meine Freundin ein Wallet, und ich ein anderes Wallet. Allerdings habe ich die privaten Schlüssel ausgetauscht, so dass ich auch ihren Kontostand, und sie meinen Kontostand sieht.
Das Senden von Bitcoins an die eigene Adresse macht keinen Sinn, da muss ein Missverständnis vorliegen.
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Frank Schäffler mag Ahnung von Bitcoins haben, aber nicht von Wirtschaft. http://www.wiwo.de/politik/europa/schuldenkrise-die-euro-zone-wird-in-dieser-form-keinen-bestand-haben/8752638.htmlDie neoliberale FDP hat den zerstörerisch einseitigen Austeritätskurs in den Südländern mitgetragen. Fragen wir ihn doch mal, warum gerade Deutschland in Krisen hilft und mehr investiert, z. B. in seine Autoindustrie. Fragen wir doch mal, warum Deutschland nicht gespart hat damals kurz nach dem Start der EU, obwohl Deutschland als erstes Land die Defizitquote von 3% gerissen hat. Fragen wir ihn doch mal, wer eigentlich unsere deutschen Exportwaren noch kaufen soll. |
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Jealous? Dying how, work accidents? That happens. I guess you have some idea about how many people this will employ to built and the company which will make money on making this will also invest that further and so on. Many new technologies could be invented on this. And so on. Don't be low jealous scum… You don't understand my objection. Normal people are working for less also in industrial countries, so short in income that they cannot pay for their basic needs. It becomes modern slavery, the Greeks are an example, but also in America and in Germany. And there are dieing many now and in the future. You get forced into hard work for anybody or any useless doing, but not for yourself. Your death doesn't matter, in neoliberalism, you simply did not work hard enough. Neoliberalists say, you can refuse to do a work. But they are lying, because in Germany you get sanctionized then. The neoliberalists say, the market regulates itself. But they are lying, the banks have been rescued, it is the opposite of a free market. And the crooks of Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank are free and are doing their destructive work over and over. What do you think how many bangsters will go to prison through the aluminum syndicate of BlackRock, JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs? |
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Like someone said its a zero sum game, someone has to lose in order for someone to gain. The 1% gains 99% lose means that the 1% can gain ALOT while the 99% barely notices (until now) that it has been losing. The ponzi scheme the US runs affects the entire world not just a nation. Thus the inflation rate is indicative of the fact that the currency is wide spread and used across the globe, meaning that as the system grows and expands some more, that when inflation does it, it will hit so hard that it will completely crush the entire global economy. There's no turning back and nowhere you can go run to avoid a collapse. If you input $5 trillion into the economy and the inflation barely budges this tells you the system is designed to be a too big to fail type of economy in that since a normal nation would be bankrupt by now the US isn't because it is being used across the globe. That doesn't mean you can print $15 trillion more, but just that it will take a longer period of time to realize the inflation since that $5 trillion has to be coughed up by the 99% somehow. The fact that the hockey stick curve is steepening tells me they are prepared to print even more to raise inflation to acceptable levels (nation wide) but forgetful of the fact that it is only because the whole economy relies on the USD that it is why inflation is not rising and it will rise after all that money is flushed out of the hands of the elite and/or military bombs wasting the debt in thin air.
This is the reason btc hit $266 that is no small feat. The pattern it is creating suggests deeper problems for our economy and very bullish for bitcoin economy. Also now that JPM openly is seen to manipulate precious metals, average joe's and investors are looking away from holding PM contracts in the open market and into other forms of investments which act as safe havens (other than jpy/usd/chf). These ones are now in the hands of central bank intervention which will make matters worse long term.
Also you may notice a spike in inflation if and when middle east oil producing nations get away from the petrodollar system and uses something else,a nything else
+1 Today I was reading that the gain in wealth of the superrich people was 7.6% in 2012. The superrich are the ones in the world who owns 30 Mio. USD and more. The rise of 7.6% is a sum of the real inflation and the movement from money from the 99% to the 1%. The inflation is already very high, but few do recognise this. For inflation you must not grow the price, you can also reduce the quality of the product. Like someone said its a zero sum game, someone has to lose in order for someone to gain. The 1% gains 99% lose means that the 1% can gain ALOT while the 99% barely notices (until now) that it has been losing.
The same affect is with Gold or Bitcoins against fiat money. If Gold or Bitcoins or other true values are rising, the people that are holding USD (and other inflating fiat like Yen) will loose. But because the market of Bitcoins is so small yet, nobody cares. As soon as Bitcoins become too expensive, the government will pay attention because of the drop of value of the fiat money that is hold by the powerfull superrich. |
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Dubious. Starts this thread a week ago, but does not answer to your comments.
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