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2101  Economy / Reputation / Re: "Fake Bills In Circulation" on: May 23, 2019, 10:04:06 PM
Seems Miss. Bitcoin Supremo can't stay on topic.

@mightyDT's should we all create as much as we can sockpuppets to make our opinion sound stronger? Please. You are smarter than that.


First of all, credit to this finding goes to person who doesn't want to reveal themselves. Well, I can't blame them, Bill likes to share sensitive PM info.

This is wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/20a5013688c97d83/addresses

Addresses which are part of this wallet:
Code:
17GFts7gLPthfVbKs2iGUuWYtsEKeNgLuh	
1PB65ZLAFTFAf5k1zJ3okDpBTgdSXvCETu
1LYaWEEuEDnZCdTcuEQ1UUZ9dZdnjEQh4a
1LYG6HStjoYjmmv8C7VwS8zs3rjrdEHZJR

Fake Bill posted this:

Bitcointalk name: bill gator
Bitcointalk account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=370611
Rank: Senior Member
Current post count -(including this one): 459
BTC Address: 17GFts7gLPthfVbKs2iGUuWYtsEKeNgLuh

Here:
[...]If you are alright with this, 17GFts7gLPthfVbKs2iGUuWYtsEKeNgLuh is my bitcoin address that I use around here [...]

EthanB posted this:
Name: EthanB
Post count: 588
Rank: Full Member
Bitcoin address: 1LYaWEEuEDnZCdTcuEQ1UUZ9dZdnjEQh4a
Profile UID: 556167

And signed message from this address:
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is EthanB from Bitcointalk.org attempting to change my address on February 11th, 2018 for the Docademic campaign (and Bitcointalk Profile) : 17npTFDKRLFXySzybAA5tcdrEAS8zf43na will be my new address used.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1PB65ZLAFTFAf5k1zJ3okDpBTgdSXvCETu
ID+qT76sjSM/LcTpiUpBHNkOJQ6pJ0umklzAaP+NmZyvfN8jJFEJFCxhT7lq/DSJ6qh2E5IiZBCkIDnpEPmLrWc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Please update my address in the spreadsheet, I think my original address may be compromised.

Why EthanB assumed address is compromised?

Received my BTC0.014, although it was to the address I believe to be compromised and had asked to change. I was able to move the coins out of there before someone else got their hands on it, but I still would like to have avoided that altogether. Anyways, I've been paid in full for my 2-weeks participation; just waiting on these Tokens now. Does anybody know which exchange I could sell these tokens on?

Where is Bill Gator to explain why probably Fake EthanB thinks that?
2102  Economy / Reputation / Re: "Fake Bills In Circulation" on: May 23, 2019, 09:27:39 PM
How about that? Seems like a good use for you new-found proclivity to share PMs and whatnot.

It's going to be the same people criticizing me for releasing PMs that are testimony of DT-intimidation/manipulation and abuse that are going to encourage me to drag legendary, reputable users including an escrow through the mud by releasing PMs.
You wouldn't lie when you said that you will publicly share some info in that ban appeal thread, wouldn't you, EthanB?

What else you are not telling us, EthanB?
This Huh
Fake Bill will tell us about it. I mean, I will post it anyway.
2103  Other / Meta / Re: @THEYMOS Abusive group punished DT1 for speaking up against them on: May 23, 2019, 09:24:33 PM
Other than bozo's claim that I have half a dozen alts, by their count.
Is that so EthanB ?
2104  Economy / Reputation / Re: "Fake Bills In Circulation" on: May 23, 2019, 09:17:49 PM
How about that? Seems like a good use for you new-found proclivity to share PMs and whatnot.

It's going to be the same people criticizing me for releasing PMs that are testimony of DT-intimidation/manipulation and abuse that are going to encourage me to drag legendary, reputable users including an escrow through the mud by releasing PMs.
You wouldn't lie when you said that you will publicly share some info in that ban appeal thread, wouldn't you, EthanB?

What else you are not telling us, EthanB?
2105  Economy / Reputation / Re: "Fake Bills In Circulation" on: May 23, 2019, 08:43:17 PM
You have to actually be trying to twist the information to get here; All of this speculation is quite poor.

Help us untwist it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145840.msg51159221#msg51159221
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you owe it to the community to disclose who sold you an account farmed via plagiarism

How about that? Seems like a good use for you new-found proclivity to share PMs and whatnot.

And who sold him, I mean his friend the other account. They claim person who bought account didn't know anything about btc, they had to create btc address for them, I mean, after they bought account Fake Bill Gator "walked them trough":

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while walking them through how to create an address on Core

Mystery remains, how someone who doesn't know how to c/p application post for signature campaign and put his bitcoin address was able to buy forum account.
2106  Economy / Reputation / Re: "Fake Bills In Circulation" on: May 23, 2019, 08:26:24 PM
I will just do it your way and quote part of post which I want and reply to it.

@TECSHARE if you want to talk about nutildah create thread about nutildah.

@quickseller before you decide to post another nonsense read this thread again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131458.msg50587315#msg50587315

@mightyDTs your gang shit theory goes here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143685.0

@Lauda thanks boss.


Seems Fake Bill posted some very sensitive info shared in privacy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145975.msg51184559#msg51184559

Keep this in mind when sharing information with this user.
2107  Economy / Reputation / Re: "Fake Bills In Circulation" on: May 23, 2019, 06:57:30 PM
I don't remember the situation where they used my address (or if it even is my address)

Quote from: toy4lov3rs August 02, 2016, 08:20:33 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559960.msg15793212#msg15793212
Name: toy4lov3rs [...]
Bitcoin address: 1KZ6qNa4DDQL1C9eneVaZ27wNHLN5oSFJc

Username: bill gator [...]
BTC address: 1KZ6qNa4DDQL1C9eneVaZ27wNHLN5oSFJc

I don't exactly remember the circumstance.

They were wanting to apply for a campaign and told me they were confused. After I explained to them that they would be denied for the quality of their posts, they proceeded to use the template I provided as an example for their actual application, which had my address on it. If memory serves, I had created that address specifically while walking them through how to create an address on Core to replace the address within the "template".

These aren't "excuses", just like my ban appeal was not an "excuse"; These are articulations of actual events.
I am sure your ban appeal wasn't excuse and you have bought account when you said you did and you didn't post that posts. Theymos confirmed it so I trust you with that.

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Toy4lov3rs is one of my clueless IRL friends. The only IRL friend I know of that has an account on the forum
Quote
I'm sure that account was probably bought/sold before and after I knew the owner; I don't keep in touch with them.

Is my friend, isn't my friend, probably bought, probably sold...someone who bought account very likely did it with btc, but "your friend" couldn't do it because:
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If memory serves, I had created that address specifically while walking them through how to create an address on Core to replace the address within the "template".
Someone had to buy account for them prior to signature application. These are 2 bought accounts. Account you used to buy Bill Gator is third account. Account bought by toy4lov3rs is forth account and there are probably more accounts and I don't trust single word you say.
2108  Economy / Reputation / "Fake Bills In Circulation" on: May 23, 2019, 05:07:14 PM
I'll start with connection between bill gator and toy4lov3rs: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg28452206#msg28452206 (credit goes to Joel_Jantsen).

Fake Bill claimed that it is their friend's account who knew nothing:

Toy4lov3rs is one of my clueless IRL friends. The only IRL friend I know of that has an account on the forum, in fact (unfortunately). It's a shame that I feel I have to explain this. They know nothing of Bitcoin, and next to nothing about the forum. I got them to read about a dozen stickies, on a newly created account, but I don't remember the username of that account and it's probably still a 0-post newbie. They very seldom log into their account and have no interest in the forum.

They were wanting to apply for a campaign and told me they were confused. After I explained to them that they would be denied for the quality of their posts, they proceeded to use the template I provided as an example for their actual application, which had my address on it. If memory serves, I had created that address specifically while walking them through how to create an address on Core to replace the address within the "template".
[...]
Whole post archived: http://archive.is/yJlTX

Well, that is strange because bill gator said they bought real bill gator's account in November, 2015.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145840.0 while account Toy4lov3rs was created in 2013., and as I can see they are far away from "not knowing anything about bitcoin".

Someone who "knew nothing" wouldn't say this in December 2015:
Quote from: toy4lov3rs
I did not check when all these accounts was created, if you are right then it does smell a bit fishy but also, keep in mind that with the recent price rise in bitcoin the forum is probably going to get flooded with new accounts and new people only coming into bitcoin now. Get you btc ready because there will be many new money making opportunities for us ol timers.
Archived http://archive.is/1mbxL

If You click on Joel_Jantsen's discovery, You will notice that address in question was posted later, 8 months later, in August 2016. Now Bill's excuse has even less sense.


I would say Toy4lov3rs is not their friend and they got caught. Did person behind account Toy4lov3rs used that account to purchase Bill Gator? Is Toy4lov3rs also bought account? Don't know. But I know this:

Quote from: Toy4lov3rs
0.16
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384304.msg14081705#msg14081705

He has won auction...
Quote from:  KaliLinux
0.16 is the winning bid so far. Just 1 hour and 30 minutes until the end of the auction.

Don't miss a bargain account that could possibly post all the way to Legendary, at least a very high rank Hero 790+ activity.
http://archive.is/jIuSv#selection-3712.0-3712.1

..and tried to buy more accounts...
Account age doesn't maters but account rank does
I can give you 0.003 for this account if you able to sign message

...and more accounts..
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I bid 0.025
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1456509.msg14723480#msg14723480


I'll add "just another coincidence". This is Bill's gap:



...and toy4lov3rs gap:





And finally, to ask this question again, how someone "didn't know" in August 2016:

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Re: SafeDICE Signature Campaign - - - Earn up to 0.025 BTC per week - - - [OPEN]
August 02, 2016, 08:20:33 PM
   
 +Merit  #69
Name: toy4lov3rs
Post count: 312
Rank: Sr. Member
Bitcoin address: 1KZ6qNa4DDQL1C9eneVaZ27wNHLN5oSFJc
Profile UID: 98138

...but knew only one month before, in June? Memory lost?

Joining

Name: toy4lov3rs
Rank: Sr member
BTC address: 1BpzXeeu3JRotY2qbTexgpEC1duCpGjrNn
post count: 302

They didn't know:

They were wanting to apply for a campaign and told me they were confused. After I explained to them that they would be denied for the quality of their posts, they proceeded to use the template I provided as an example for their actual application, which had my address on it.


This small collection will serve as reference because there is not enough characters to put this in feedback. Thanks for reading.
2109  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Svađaona on: May 23, 2019, 01:29:29 PM
Zamrla opet tema, nego nešto mi nije bilo on topic tamo pa ću ovdje:

Laički rečeno... kada kupuješ zlato, dionice, nekretnine ili bilo što drugo s BTC, računa se da si u tom trenutku "otuđio" BTC, tj. u tom trenutku trebaš izračunati vrijednost BTC s obzirom na vrijednost kad si ga kupio i obračunati porez na kapitalnu dobit. Jedino kad se ne računa da si "otuđio" BTC je kada ga mijenjaš za druge kriptovalute.
Kod sljedeće kupovine nečega u online shopu pripremite knjigovođe, jer zašto bi bilo jednostavno nešto kupiti kad se može skroz iskomplicirati.

Na kraju krajeva, kad se podvuče crta uz sve ove gluposti, to jest namete - ispada da je najisplativije provući kreditnu karticu i platiti.

Jel tu netko lud ili što?

25% državi kad zaradite/dobijete/nađete bitcoin
25% PDV-a državi kad kupite nešto koristeći taj btc
12% kapitalna dobit (također obračunati kod kupovine) državi

?% provizija za servis, jer online shopovi ne primaju btc direktno
?% provizija online shopu

Ova prevarantska država samo gleda i traži načine da ukrade nečije novce.


Tko točno odgovori na pitanje dobije merit: Tko je u ovoj državi zakonski definirao što je bitcoin?
2110  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Nova IEO platforma - Tokinex - (Bitfinex) on: May 22, 2019, 09:17:47 PM
Bitfinex je gospođa dama među burzama, smatram da je ovo dobra platforma za ulaganje u IEO
Također su neki mislili da je bittrex dobra platforma za ulaganje https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144119.0 u ICO, hoću reći IEO  Roll Eyes

Meni stvarno nije jasno, investitori popušili hrpu love na ICO-e i manje više se povukli iz tog tržišta, ovi počeli lansirati ICO-e na mjenjačnicama i nazvali ih IEO i opet ljudi navalili ko blesavi.
2111  Other / Meta / Re: Plagiarism should remain a zero-tolerance bannable offense on: May 22, 2019, 07:32:56 PM
Right. So go back to the example that I showed. Was my mistake delibarate? If yes, why? If not, why not? How can you, as an outsider tell?
I think you should ask theymos do you need to put humor under quotation and post source, but the moment you do all that it loses its purpose and it is not funny any more, therefore that prayer shouldn't even be there.

I am pretty sure correct term for this exist and it is definitely not plagiarism  Smiley
2112  Other / Meta / Re: [Ban Appeal] bill gator on: May 22, 2019, 03:31:50 PM
If Bill Gator was not told which post was plagiarized when he was banned, then the question becomes how did the OP know which post he was banned for *before* he opened this thread.
If we make assumption that Bill is telling the truth, he would know that plagiarism could have happened before November 07 (another assumption is that Bill didn't c/p anything after Nov.)

There are only 100 posts before Nov 07, it wouldn't be so hard for them to check post history of previous owner and to assume that they are banned because of that post. But that is really strange. I went to see first page of account's post history and it took me exactly 1 minute to find this:


That's really not a fair comparison. I like both series, but I don't compare them to each other, because they are too different. The Lord of the Rings trilogy was written for adults, the Harry Potter series is, at its core, a children's series. I would also argue that Rowling created a very complete universe

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/harrypotter/comments/1c5iwz/lord_of_the_rings_vs_harry_potter/


Post #7:
This is a disease that is killing 50% of the people who contract it, and we are being told that contracting the disease is very difficult. yet those trained medically and in protective gear are catching it at a somewhat alarming rate.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2i7pbe/ebola_something_that_isnt_adding_up/


On the same page (#1):
one concern that immediately springs to mind is if you want to deposit a large number of coins in any exchange ,
it could easily end up disappearing

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293432.0


yes,The patent summary says, “The invention provides the isolated human Ebola (hEbola) viruses denoted as Bundibugyo (EboBun) deposited with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (“CDC”; Atlanta, Georgia, United States of America) on November 26, 2007 and accorded an accession number 200706291.” -
wow

https://www.reddit.com/r/cringepics/comments/2jit12/i_deleted_him_after_this/
Not sure about source of that source.


This flight was traveling along a route it had regularly used on a daily basis in recent weeks. (Flights over conflict zones are actually common. The Federal Aviation Administration banned U.S. carriers from flying over certain areas above Crimea and the Black Sea

Not sure who is source, anyway, it was posted here (connection is not secure) https://www.wackbag.com/threads/breaking-777-crashes-on-russian-border.157764/page-4


Maybe Bill looked for plagiarism from Nov 07 backwards? Well, anyway, I don't see anyone came here to say OP is not Bill except you, so we can also do it your way and assume that "you know the truth" because "you are Bill" and OP is person or bot who reported Bill.

------------------------------

I should have done more due diligence when I purchased the account originally, but all of the posts were so bad it seemed impossible that they would be plagiarized.
I don't think you are being honest here.

And, as I can see you have bought account to join bitmixer's signature campaign:

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November 8th I signed up, so I'll just be sitting in wait until my week timer has ticked!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425135.msg12949827#msg12949827


Ok, and I just have one final question before I get out of your hair..
I will be a Senior member soon and I would love to stay with this signature campaign as long as possible.

So I call this one big BS:
Once I came here, I fell in love with the technology, the community and created an account. The problem became, that I named my account after someone close to me and that was something I wanted to step away from.
Mr. Fake Bill probably meant to say that they fell in love with bitmixer's signature campaign and only problem was - ranking up speed.
2113  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM! Replaceenergycoin.com (REC) - FAKE Team on: May 21, 2019, 07:57:45 PM
Mizan is confused with his role. Tell him he is IEO Marketing, not a Developer. Anyway good try.
0:25, he says smthg like "you will make a lot of profit by this project, just invest on it"
0:42 he repeats "just invest on it" and then again: "just invest on it"

Very dangerous promise, especially when this is previously posted:

After being contacted, they admitted giving us fake photos because "they have been scammed a lot after working with some projects, and they were afraid this would be just another scam so they didn't want to get public about it".

I guess they were okay with the idea of being involved in a scam, just not okay with getting their faces sticked to it
Part of which scams they have been?

0:19 it seems Mizan "has developed so many project like this", what projects? List "many projects".


Hello all, my name is Rodrigo Austin, the CEO of Replace Energy Coin.
I am having troubles to hear this name in video.
2114  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: GAMEBIT - FAKE TEAM MEMBERS on: May 21, 2019, 06:20:49 PM
To justify myself, i only had the original images of me
Of course, whole team is fake and your picture is real  Roll Eyes

OP, as this information is not verified yet, you should reconsider to move this thread to Investigation and create new thread in scam accusation linking this thread.
2115  Other / Meta / Re: [overview] LoyceV's useful data on Bitcointalk on: May 21, 2019, 05:33:54 PM
This forum should have LoyceV Local...
2116  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: May 21, 2019, 01:15:08 PM
Zaista ne znam kako planiraju to definirati. Recimo, ja sad na Bethereum platformi igram njihovu verziju agar.io igre i dnevno zaradim nekih 5000 tokena. Što je to? To nije ni bounty, a nije bome ni kladionica. Da, ti tokeni imaju svoju vrijednost na burzama, ali imaju i Apex tokeni koje zaradiš igranjem a možeš i kupiti novcem. Što to znači? Da svaki put kad igram Apex i dobijem tokene moram nazvati poreznu?
To bi trebalo prvenstveno spadati pod zakon o igrama na sreću.

No da budemo konstruktivni - koji bi bio dobar i prihvatljiv način oporezovanja bountyja koji se koliko-toliko uklapa u HR zakone?
Zašto ne 12% na kapitalnu dobit kad i ako je bude?

Zamislite netko plasira nekakvu glupost i kaže prodajem jedan token koji ničemu ne služi po 1000$, zaspama hrpu adresa a token nikad ne dođe na mjenjačnicu.

Sad vi dobijete na primjer 1000 tokena koji vrijede 0 kuna a opet su ti tokeni imali nekakvu cijenu. Po nekoj logici porezne, vi biste trebali platiti porez na milion kuna Undecided

I to uopće nije daleko od bountija i airdropova i ne bi se smjelo oporezivati iznad 12%.
2117  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: May 20, 2019, 08:28:43 PM
To pitanje sam postavio Poreznoj 1.6.2018., i čekam odgovor
Skonto sam da sam pisao isto ovo prije točno godinu dana Roll Eyes

Što se tiče bountyja, tu je Porezna dala jasan odgovor u točki 4. u ovom mišljenju:
https://www.porezna-uprava.hr/HR_publikacije/Lists/mislenje33/Display.aspx?id=19590
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Slično „rudarenju“, ako fizička osoba stekne određeni iznos kriptovaluta za određenu protučinidbu, primjerice, gledanje oglasa, ispunjavanje anketa, promociju određenih proizvoda na vlastitoj web-stranici ili drugim načinima oglašavanja, po toj osnovi utvrđuje se drugi dohodak ili dohodak od samostalne djelatnosti kako je prethodno navedeno.
To nije jasan odgovor, bounty tokeni nemaju cijenu u trenutku primanja, bar velika većina njih. A i da se gleda recimo ICO cijena, koja se gleda?

Pre-ICO?
ICO stage 1?
ICO stage 2?
itd...
2118  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: GAMEBIT - FAKE TEAM MEMBERS on: May 20, 2019, 07:53:36 PM
Im sorry, i will replace the right fotos. My team is very carefull with sending me fotos for btctalk so i need to convince them. Still thanks for checking this thread Smiley
Ok, so you confessed that this is not your team. Don't tell me, you will replace this team with new fake team...
Please confirm that this is a crime (i need to know that to contact a lawyer in case)
You want someone to confirm that identity theft is a crime? I don't think you need lawyer to tell you that.
2119  Economy / Reputation / Re: Time's up for DT members who left negative feedback for Thule on: May 20, 2019, 03:07:42 PM
Let's see how these abusiv DT members will react once they see suchmoon got a real invitation.
Don't you think you will be the one who will pay expenses of lawsuit?

Suchmoon left you this feedback:
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Doesn't seem to be playing with a full deck. Abuses trust feedback and lives in alternate reality. Avoid any deals with this clown.
...after you abused trust and send someone fake negative with fake risked amount, IIRC. You removed yours? Well, read this https://bitcointalk.org/privacy.php Scroll down to trust part:

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Deleted posts and trust ratings, as well as their edit histories   Kept on the live server for a couple of years; then probably kept indefinitely in backups   Don't publicly post things that you might not want to exist forever

There is exactly 0% chance that any lawyer will take this case.
2120  Economy / Reputation / Re: Hhampuz Reputation Thread on: May 20, 2019, 02:51:26 PM
It is actually sad, someone gave them second chance and then they choose to shit on that person.
Second chance? At what exactly? Speak slowly so I can understand.

I think I already know the answer
Sure, no problem.

Someone already quoted this:
*Do not have any legitimate negative feedback from any DT member. Receiving negative feedback during your stay could lead to your termination from the campaign without payment or notice.
Your trust looks like this: Trust: -8177: -13 / +15

So, Hhampuz is good guy who accepted you in campaign and gave you a chance to earn some btc even thought it is against campaign rules. Then you got fired.

Think about it for a second.

I think I already know the answer....not criticizing you and your friends.
I really don't know what is inside your head, "not criticizing you and your friends" means Hhampuz is not my friend because you are criticizing him or, if Hhampuz is my friend and you said you are not criticizing my friends, and you ARE criticizing Hhampuz that means you are lying.
Your statement is - wrong, and makes no sense.
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