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2121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA _ Phoenix Suns vs Dallas Mavericks - 2nd round on: May 16, 2022, 12:20:00 PM
Another heart breaking loss for Phoenix and the repeat of last year result, the top team are out and now Dallas will move to the finals against the Warriors. Phoenix have an early lead on this series, its just that Doncic has been unstoppable and the Suns can't handle it. Too bad for CP3, he lose the chance again to at least fight for the championship well if he can still play, maybe next conference he can have the chance.
Doncic and a great help from Dinwiddie lead the Mavs and played their tails of from the start to the finish. This made them dominate the ring the whole game and that Suns have totally lost their chance to advance to Western Conference Finals. Well, this defeat must be very embarassing on the part of the star players of Suns but everything happens unexpectedly, as the used to be underdog is now close to its championship.
Not so easy, they have to get pass the Warriors first, if they'll beat the Warriors, I think they have a decent chance to win a championship. Again, they are still an underdog in the series, so if you are thinking of betting on them, you'll surely enjoy the 3.00 odds.
2122  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Bear Market thread on: May 14, 2022, 09:42:13 PM
Siguro time to accumulate na naman mga kabayan kasi almost 30% ang dump ng bitcoin this week lang, kaya for sure malaking bounce back ang aabangan natin.
Laki nga ng binagsak ng Bitcoin at sumabay din ang altcoins. Yung value ng portfolio ko nangalahati na hehe. Pero okay lang yan hold lang tayo kasi yun ang pinaka wise gawin ngayon. Dapat ding iwasan yung mga negative news para hindi tayo ma tempt magbenta to cut loss.
Dapat ganyan ang mindset, tulad ng dati, HODL lang.  Smiley
Baka bababa pa ito, kaya wala lang mag panic kasi sabi nga nila organic lang daw. hehe..
Mga baguhan panic mode na siguro sila now, lalo na yung bumali sa kasagsagan ng bull run.

Ito pala nangyari.
Cryptocurrency luna crashes to $0 as UST falls further from dollar peg


Sa mga gusto bumili eto na ang pagkakataon nyo kasi mas cheap ang price, kasi sooner or later for sure tataas ulit yan.

Tama, wag ng maghintay pa ng matagal, napakalaki na ng binaba, kung babalik yan ng $40k, malaki na rin panalo natin.
Over 30% income in a short period of time, that's good.
2123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: May 14, 2022, 09:03:29 PM

Well, we certainly cannot deny that we expected them to be eliminated somewhere in Game 4 because of that standing but the Luka proved that their team is ready in these kind of situations and that they are willing to adjust well even if it means defeating the heaviest team this season.

I'm excited to see what the Mavericks can do in game 7, hopefully we will not the see the same scenario that happened in the last 3 games at the Suns homecourt because all of them are a blowout loss of the Mavericks.

Luka is an exceptional player, however, he alone cannot win the game 7, so everyone on the roster has to step up as the Suns are certainly making sure they'll try to protect their home and advance in the WCF.
2124  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: May 14, 2022, 08:37:36 PM
Nanonood ako ng live game ngayon between the Celtics and the Bucks at mukhang magkakaroon tayo ng game7 kasi ang hirap ng buhay ng taga Bucks hehe, i mean kung magpapahinga si Giannis ay wala na talaga silang mapuntahan para maka-score at ang dali-dali lang ng buhay ng mga Celtics na pupukol sa tres and i think the Celtics have already 11 made three points while tatlo pa lang yong sa Bucks, hahay....

Score at the half 53-43 in favor of the Celtics.

grabe talagang inasa na sakanya ang tumira akala ko pamandin babawi sa Holiday sa 2nd half pero wala duling parin siya.

Talo Bucks, hehe.. Meron na tayong game 7 sa East at West.
Naku baka naman bumawi ang Bucks at manalo pa sa road again, Giannis monster pa rin, kaya lang kulang sa support.

@mirakal, kabayan, congrats sa iyo, panalo ang Warriors mo, at nag cover pa.
Medyo kabado yung laro kasi 4th quarter lang nila ginawa yan.

Maganda yan, at sa totoo lang, mahirap i predict ang game 7 kasi kahit nasa home court pa ang advatange, may chance pa ring manalo ang road team. Maraming beses ng nangyari yan kahit hindi dapat kampante ang mga home team dahil last game na yan.

Siguro ang bet ko ay both under, defense yan for sure, kaya sure na ako.

Mahirap mabasa ang galawan ng mga laro, bigla kasing nagiging explosive mga players lalo na ngayon game 7 wala ng susunod na game at ibubuhos na lahat ng lakas, kahit sabihing may home court advantage pag inalat ang mga payers lalo na yung mga stars na inaasahan nilang bubuhat sa team, eh sigurado silat ang aabutin nila sa bisita nilang kalaban.

Maganda yang tatayaan mo mas magfofocus malamang sa depensa ang buwat coach ng mga team, alam naman nila na kaya din nilang sumabay sa opensa pero importante magandang depensa ang magawa para ma prevent yung players na mag init at magkaroon ng mataas na kumpyansa.

Well, hindi ka naman talaga bibiguin ng Bucks sa depensa, tama lang naman na underdog sila dito dahil wala si Middleton per bilib pa rin ako sa team na ito dahil sila pa ang naka unang mag 3 sa series. Medyo masakit ang nangyari sa kanila sa game 7, pero hindi pa tapos ang laban may one game 1.

Kung naaalala ninyo, game 7 rin nanalo ang Bucks sa series nila last season against the nets, magandang laro yon, kaya sure maganda rin maging laro ngayong darating na game 7.
2125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: May 14, 2022, 02:01:28 PM
There's a mega-fight waiting for whoever is gonna win this fight the Isaac Cruz - Ryan Garcia will not push through and Sean Gibbons ward Isaac Cruz wants to challenge whoever wins the fight and so is Ryan Garcia, whoever wins the fight is expected to make a lot of money because the winner will hold all the belts and the boxing fans will pay just to see a unified champion fighting just like Canelo,
I think there's a rematch clause in this fight, 1st fight will be in Kambosos' home country, and the 2nd is on Haney's home county. So if they will follow the agreement, then those who are waiting might wait for a while as a Trilogy is also possible for this fight.

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I'm sure both fighter Kambosos and Haney to be motivated on this fight.
Yes because it's for " Undisputed Lightweight Title ", the biggest fight in this division.
2126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: May 14, 2022, 01:11:19 PM
1/2.
Damn Milwaukee Bucks losing at their home and it's supposed to be a close game but they let the Celtics get ahead by a large margin. Tatum and Giannis putting in a monster game with both over 40 points. I even took a player prop against Giannis under 57 total but he got 70+ which is scary.  Grin
Two Game 7 on Sunday. Suns at home and Celtics with the crowd on their side this time, will absolutely not miss these games.

What is your prediction to game master? I’m having a hard time to decide on the best pick but base on there previous match record,Suns always win in there home while Bucks always win on Boston home. But I’m worrying if the opposite result will happened since this is a game 7 match. I’m following your prediction and I know that you have a high accuracy analysis on basketball. I will be happy get an advice on choosing the best pick for the upcoming matches.  Grin
Let's bet on the team with consistency, and on the Suns vs Mavericks series, if we follow the trend, we should bet on the Suns and its spread as most likely they will win and cover it again. Though this is game 7, but if we fully follow the trend, we should be able to make a decision immediately.

Yes, you are right, Suns have consistency on their home court, so most probably Suns will cover the spread if they'll win. Besides, I think the Suns are not heavily favored from the public bets, so there's an almost equal flow of money on both teams, the spread is reasonable and if you believe that the Suns will be in the WCF, taking them should be the right call.
2127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: May 14, 2022, 12:24:25 PM
Just still lingering in my ears, Cagulangan

for the win!! Grin

He really made the difference, his shot was cold blooded, and I like the UP in that game because they were so aggressive, they are getting the ball and they don't mind playing against a heavy favored Ateneo. And for the record, it's the first time that coach Tab was beaten by a Filipino coach in the Finals.
2128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: May 14, 2022, 11:22:48 AM
The Ring magazine is rating Inoue as the number 3 pound for pound best. If my memory serves right, Donaire's highest ranking pound for pound was at number 4. 
You only missed a bit, Donaire's highest rank P4P was at number 3 on 2011.
Yep the problem is that was a record on 2011, while Inoue ranked at number 3 in this year. I see this fight like Canelo vs GGG where GGG can't won against Canelo (even there's will be a trilogy), so I expect Inoue will win because of his prime, the location and also the judges. Donaire need really dominating in the ring, with his current agility now... there's a gap and wouldn't compete against Inoue.

That's the problem with Donaire now he is fighting a prime Inoue so for sure he will struggle for this and  also Inoue is full of confidence as he already defeated him on his last match up. Most provably many bettor will bet on Inoue on this fight since they know that Donaire is at the peak or maybe over on his prime years.



He already fought Inoue in the past, so he already knows how capable Inoue is. yes, Inoue is still in his prime but Donaire also is still capable of winning, in fact, he is a champion now and therefore we have to believe that Donaire has a chance of giving Inoue his first loss.

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So lets just see if we can see a good match between them here.
No doubt mate, it's guaranteed that we will witness a good fight.
2129  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: May 14, 2022, 11:10:51 AM
Nanonood ako ng live game ngayon between the Celtics and the Bucks at mukhang magkakaroon tayo ng game7 kasi ang hirap ng buhay ng taga Bucks hehe, i mean kung magpapahinga si Giannis ay wala na talaga silang mapuntahan para maka-score at ang dali-dali lang ng buhay ng mga Celtics na pupukol sa tres and i think the Celtics have already 11 made three points while tatlo pa lang yong sa Bucks, hahay....

Score at the half 53-43 in favor of the Celtics.

grabe talagang inasa na sakanya ang tumira akala ko pamandin babawi sa Holiday sa 2nd half pero wala duling parin siya.

Talo Bucks, hehe.. Meron na tayong game 7 sa East at West.
Naku baka naman bumawi ang Bucks at manalo pa sa road again, Giannis monster pa rin, kaya lang kulang sa support.

@mirakal, kabayan, congrats sa iyo, panalo ang Warriors mo, at nag cover pa.
Medyo kabado yung laro kasi 4th quarter lang nila ginawa yan.

Maganda yan, at sa totoo lang, mahirap i predict ang game 7 kasi kahit nasa home court pa ang advatange, may chance pa ring manalo ang road team. Maraming beses ng nangyari yan kahit hindi dapat kampante ang mga home team dahil last game na yan.

Siguro ang bet ko ay both under, defense yan for sure, kaya sure na ako.
2130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: May 14, 2022, 09:38:39 AM
What a game by Boston Celtics now, it looks like we are going to see a game 7 in this series,  Grin.

It's not over yet, it was just in the 3rd quarter, but they have built a good lead and I don't know if Giannis or Jrue Holiday can carry the team again in the 4th. If they did they we will have another massive comeback from them.

I did not think that the Boston Celtics would win this game, now we will have watched a good and exciting series. Boston Celtics may have the advantage in the last game.
We've been talking about how excellent the Bucks played throughout the year, but now they can be eliminated.
In the last match, everything will be different and I think we will watch a tougher match Smiley
The Celtics would've won Game 5 if they aren't allowing the Bucks offensive rebounds. If you will look at some highlights, you will see 4-5 Celtics players watching the ball as they rebound and this is a perfect opportunity for the Bucks to get offensive rebounds. 17 offensive rebounds? That is their mistake on that game and its good that they bounced back in Game 6 and they forced a Game 7 and right now, they have a bit of an advantage because of its their home.

I will still go with the Celtics with this one. Giannis scored 44 points and 20 rebounds but there isn't that much help offensively from other players or maybe lets also add the fact that he only shot 14/30 with 2/3 in 3pt. area. For me that's inefficient knowing that Giannis mostly shoots inside the paint. Help from other players offensively is needed if they want to steal one in the road and win against the Celtics or else they will lose. Don't focus on Giannis too much offensively and give chance to other players to shoot. The Bucks has many three-point shooters. Allen, Holiday, Matthews, Connaughton and even Portis.

Here we go to game 7, this series is very unpredictable. just like in game 6, Giannis could end the series because they have the home court advantage but it didn't happen, they were dominated by the Celtics, so let's see if they can make a surprise in game 7. Bucks won 2 already on the road, they are a team that should not be underestimated.
2131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: May 13, 2022, 08:55:05 PM
I'm really shocked to see that Miami Heat finished the job already by 4-2 last night. I was feeling very confident about a win for Philadelphia 76ers but they lost the game 99-90. I was pretty sure about Embiid to make a big difference actually but he couldn't. And this was very important at this point. Maybe they could have won this game if he performed better. He got only 20 points. And of course, Harden's effort was poor too by 11 points only. Congrats to Heat!
Harden was a big factor on that loss, last game on their home court, Harden scored 30 points IIRC, and that 11 points is unacceptable for a star player. Miami Heat star player Butler showed consistency in the game, and his teammates have stepped up so they deserve the big win.

Strus contributed 20 points, this guy is a huge contributor on that win, and he was struggling in the last 2 road games, so he is a surprised.
2132  Economy / Speculation / Re: A Little Surprised! on: May 13, 2022, 08:36:19 PM
I did expect Bitcoin to be at $50k at this point but I was not expecting a lot of the world events that seem to have unfolded - things have gotten bad. With the state of the world economy everyone seems to be taking a hit. I know a lot of people hurting that are wrapped up in the market. Luckily for me I am a long hold on BTC so I feel really good about my position and don’t have a problem with corrections. Just be patient and stay the course. That method has served me best.

Yes things have really changed and many people are hit by the economic situation that keeps getting worse with inflation. The market too is hit by this current bear that is becoming the general topic so far because the drop is coming when it was not expected. All the time during the covid-19 pandemic it was expected that price will crash but it didn't but it started to happen now that the world is recovering from the hit of the covid-19. Of course a long time holder will not have anything bothering him because the market will surely recover.
Forget about that economic situation because we have the worst when the pandemic happened, but have we seen bitcoin dump that time? No, because it was the opposite that did happen, the market was bullish that time and it was the time when slowly bitcoin have finally a achieve a new ATH.

Some people might have manipulated the market, and it's just normal to see a year of correction after a bull run, that has to be considered as well.
2133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Miami Heat vs Philadelphia 76ers - 2nd round (Let's discuss) on: May 13, 2022, 02:42:45 PM
Miami Heat just won the match against Philadelphia 76ers 99-90 this means that Miami Heat won the series against 76ers 4-2 and advances into the next round. 76ers really played bad the second half and this costed them the series. They lost at home unexpectedly and now are knocked out

It was an awful display from the 76ers, but I wasn't expecting different result from them, you've got to give a lot of kudos to Miami Heat defense, they were really active all game long, and made the 76ers take awful shots, and the triple teaming of Embiid and switching over and over again and then getting shit loads of offensive rebound converted to point, was the key factor for 76ers.

This only proves how useless Harden on this game. The defense is focusing on Embiid while he can't make a way to get a points to help Embiid to release some pressure from his defender. Danny Green and Harden is useless when Embiid come back again. This year effort of Embiid is put into waste just because he was injured on the 2 games and his team can't cover his absence. Maybe Harden & Embiid is not good at all and just a choke?

Harden is only good if he contributes to the offense because he is not an all-around player. I mean his defense is not good (my personal view), so if he also struggles offensively, that would not help the team to win. Look, Harden has only 11 points, and only had 9 attempts, that is not his number, he used to have the biggest total attempts and he gets his production by driving the ball to the paint.
2134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: May 12, 2022, 09:48:37 PM

Celtics choking against Giannis monster game, no one can really stop him. They are successful early, but when it's crunch time, this great players shows what they are made of.

In game 4 it was Bucks that choked in the game, now they are even. LOL
Anyway, the series is not over yet, Celtics are still a dangerous team because if they can win game 6, they can win the series in game 7.

I would not be too complacent though I have my bet on the Bucks to win the series, I took it when they were the underdog and I feel good now.
2135  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: May 12, 2022, 09:30:24 PM
Another trap na naman pala.

Wala si Morant, pero mas malaking kawalan pala si Kerr sa Warriors.
Ano ba namang klaseng coaching ginawa ni Mike Brown, bakit ang laki ng tambak, naku, nagdududa na tuloy ako sa Warriors.

Kayo, ano sa tingin ninyo ang problema ng Warriors?


Ewan ko ba sa Warriors na yan hehe, laki na ng talo ko sa kanila sa series na ito. On paper, parang wala na talagang pag-asa yong Memphis na manalo sa kanila dahil wala nga si Ja Morant at pangalawa ay nakuha na nila yong timpla sa series na ito pero kabaligtaran yong nangyari kanina at tama ka nga, mukhang malaking kawalan si Steve Kerr sa kanila at hindi pa siguro siya makakabalik next game dahil covid-19 positive siya so kailangan ng ten days na pahinga so delikado pa rin ang Warriors next game hehe. Iwas muna ako sa kanila.
Kaya nga, kala ko na nga din eh na tatapusin na nila ngayong araw para mauuna na sila sa next round pero nang tiningnan ko ang game nila, masyadong alisto ang Grizzlies lalo na sa hatawan ng 3-points kaya mostly sa kanila nakakuha ng 20 points pataas at yung iba naman double digits parin. Ang ikinagulat ko ay wala man lang magawa at maisagot ang Warriors kayat nag concede nalang sila pagdating ng 3rd quarter. Grabi ang ginawang tambak!

Parang may mangyayaring Game 7 pa ata.

Wala ng game 7 yan, hanggang game 6 nalang ito, ginandahan lang nila ang series para mas maraming ma eenjoy. hehe.. Warriors ako sa game 6, kahit mataas pa ang betting odds, basta parang feeling ko hindi na paabutin ng game 7 ito, with the help of the "refs", nothing is impossible.
2136  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Bear Market thread on: May 12, 2022, 09:14:15 PM
Kumusta mga kabayan? update lang natin tong thread na to kasi parang bearish na talaga.

Bitcoin bumaba na sa $28k (current price), ano kaya ang susunod na mangyayari.

Bullish prediction pa rin ang iba.
https://time.com/nextadvisor/investing/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-price-increases/

Siguro time to accumulate na naman mga kabayan kasi almost 30% ang dump ng bitcoin this week lang, kaya for sure malaking bounce back ang aabangan natin.
2137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Miami Heat vs Philadelphia 76ers - 2nd round (Let's discuss) on: May 12, 2022, 08:41:43 PM
The Miami Heat did not give me any confidence even though they had some successful results in the regular season as well. I still haven't forgotten what happened between Butler and Erik Spoelstra during the season. Considering the increase in the 76ers' performance after Joel Embiid's return, I think the 76ers will go to the next round.
Yup, I agree about that! Butler may have been helpful to the team but coach Spoelstra don't deserve the be disrespected nor treated like that. Butler should know his limits because he is really nothing with Erik's rich minds behind their games. The Miami Heat's star is throwing the teams record by his actions and I can see that the Sixers will always try and dominate them each game now that they are back healthy.
They still have no answer on Embiid, I have a reason to believe that Embiid will still dominate in game 5 and 76ers will have another win. As what I have read, NBA would like to see Embiid and Harden in the ECF than seeing the Heat or Butler which are not so popular, so I think 76ers will do the business right.

Also, when Embiid was out, everyone was betting on the Heat, so probably Vegas is just trying to collect money from the public.
They really made a big mistake on Game 5 because they are pouring too much attention to Tyler Herro and getting him guarded by two players instead of distributing the man power to guard each player especially Butler. Not sure either why Embiid didn't contribute well for the team because it's like he was really exhausted already and the rest of the team got poor FG. I hope they could survive the series because they are now in the verge of getting eliminated on their own homecourt in Philly.

They won the last 2 games in their home court, I'm expecting the same will happen tonight, 76ers should push this series to game 7 so the fans will be happy and I hope the game 7 is going to be a close game. Betting on the home team today, no matter what the outcome is, I would still stick with my prediction.
2138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 on: May 12, 2022, 12:33:37 PM
I didn't managed to place bet on this match and just watched the highlights in YouTube I thought Emmanuel Tagoe could slows down Ryan Garcia on the first rounds but I think Ryan Garcia is much calmer and waiting for counters which is a good since he has advantage in terms of reach and height. As expected from Garcia his punches are not only fast but it was strong too but still much respect from Tagoe as he managed to finish a 12 round match which I think is the fist time for Ryan Garcia.
There's no hype on this fight because we all know in the first place that it's a big mismatch.

Ryan Garcia has been out for a year, he came back with an easy fight to probably prepare for a big fight.
I believe that Garcia will win, but with the odds that he is a heavy favorite, I just passed on betting, instead just watch the fight and get bored.
2139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: May 12, 2022, 12:15:30 PM
Lol so many people been riding golden state all series.  Memphis covered 3 out of 4 games.  +5.5 at home is crazy odds.  Riding Memphis til they get booted or move on.  Team is legit good and shouldn't have been underdogs in any game at home this playoffs.  People overbet golden state

True, and they have a good lead in the first two quarters and the Warriors doesn't have any answer to their offensive rebound again.

Jaren Jackson continue his hot streak, pacing the Memphis team with 13 points already. Only Klay Thompson is scoring for the Warriors, Poole has 0 points and Curry has only 6 points. +5.5 bet for Memphis is looking good so far. But let's see if Curry will have an amazing second half.

What an unexpected game, I really thought that the Warriors would close the series today on Memphis but the Grizzlies stepped up to a whole new level. It's like they are just playing against a weaker team because the Warriors couldn't answer at all as Jackson, Bane and Jones kept on throwing threes everywhere and they managed to score 21 points each. The Warriors have forfeited the game on the 3rd quarter when they decided to sit the new big three of the GSW.

Question, is this because Steve Kerr wasn't there to help the team?

Maybe, but they also won game 4 without coach Kerr.

Not sure if how things happened earlier, weak defense and poor offense, it's not the Warrior that we used to know. They have
all the stars and the main players who can compete, but Memphis dominated the whole game. I'm just hoping that they lose
today to win in game 6 in front of the chase center crowd. Looking to see them bounce back with a much better game plan
to finish this series.

Warriors won game 4 but they were struggling in that game. It was Curry who carried the team on that win, but in game 5, it's very visible that they lack on defense that's why Memphis easily score on them.  It wasn't the Warriors that we usually saw, hopefully they'll bounce back and will finish the series in game 6.
2140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: May 11, 2022, 12:12:07 PM

The good thing about Magsayo is that he is not into talking or getting in someone's to destroy his psyche, he just let his actions do the talking instead of having so much exposure and underestimating his opponents. This time he is against a Mexican boxer who also didn't tasted any loss in his whole career, Magsayo surely knows the gravity of what Vargas can do especially that the latter have that height and reach advantage.

For me, this is just another good matchup for him and since he is now fighting in the US, he needs to consider working hard and he needs to beat the like of Vargas in an easy way but we all know that it would not be the case if he struggled to beat his last opponent with injury. Who knows maybe he already improved after that because it's just some kind of unexpected turn of events when he was expected to win easily with his opponent suffering from an arm injury. Right now he needs to wake up and use every fight as an opportunity to showcase his skills and how strong he is.
That should be the correct mindset for any boxers specially Filipinos who are reeling from the retirement of Manny Pacquiao. Manny has set the blue print already it's just a matter of time boxers like Magsayo following his footsteps for greatness. So not to underestimate any of his opponents and on the contrary focuses on training and doing the hard work.

Manny, when he was still in his prime, is always pushing himself, that's why he achieve success and made history. Now, for Magsayo, he only achieves a little and I believe he can still improve his record and probably move to the heavier weight once he successfully defeats his belt. To be in the list of pound for pound is a huge achievement, and that would only happen if Magsayo keeps winning and keep moving as well.
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