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2121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: May 07, 2017, 09:49:31 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?

A lot will say its for profit for sure. For me, the fun doesn' exist while you are playing. I always feel very nervous while I'm at it because I know it will disappear in a matter of seconds. The fun only exists after you win your target price.

Mostly for the profit, but me, I will be gambling for fun, the excitement of risking your money but the thing is I am not using my money or bitcoin but just the satoshi or bitcoin that the faucet of that site gave me. And if you are can't gamble really well, maybe you might wanna avoid gambling because it might ruin you.

But it is hard to have profits by just using the free satoshis that they are giving, because I think that the house could detect it, it is just once in a blue moon for a one person to win on gambling using this free satoshis, it is once in a lifetime. But yeah, if you don't want to lose any money, then using the free satoshis that they are giving is a pretty idea, but just don't hope that you are going to win---big.

I could not agree more. On the other hand, it would not look good winning from satoshi that is not your own property. Besides, it is very hard to win big from very little free satoshi given by these sites.
2122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: May 07, 2017, 09:44:04 AM
The way that might be spelled intelligent is when we have got winning, soon we go. And do something else .. It's much better way than we keep waiting until it's zero.
Yeah me i'm playi g gambling that i can afford to lose well it's not an smart but its a nice way playing gambling. I think this one is the second golden rules in gambling and the first one is "Protect first our Account" this first rule is always in my mind even if i'm playing gambling because what if you win? And in the your acciunt just got hacked? Then all your effort that you put playi g is just got away.

Make sense. If you wanna really want to play it smart, you must first secure your bases. You can't just attack and attack without building defenses. You must set 2 factor authentication in to all your accounts.
2123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: May 07, 2017, 09:40:40 AM
Curiosity when losing or vice versa is sometimes the main reason why gambling so addicting, and feel happy when you win more dominating why this activity so addicting.

I think it is because of the times when we are winning and the times when we are losing, this times are the ones why us are always returning to the gambling world and gamble again, and do get addicted on it, all the money, all the properties that we have, we are all ready to risk it all just to have something to spend on it, hoping to win, but most of the time we lose.

That is why us are getting addicted is because we hate losing, that is why we always keep on trying on gambling, we promised ourselves that we are not going to stop until we have the amount that we do want to win in gambling, but this is very stupid, because there is a lot of ways on how you could earn money other than gambling, we just want gambling because it will be an easy money if we are going to win.

In short, when gambling is overpowered by emotions, that gambler will surely, eventually, and definitely will going to lose. Because whether he will win or lose, he will bet. If he wins, he wants to win more and if he loses, he wants to get even.
2124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: May 07, 2017, 09:37:22 AM
It's really tough.
Gambling is such a game that totally depends on luck, if you win many steps then you want more to participate on the other hand if you lose then you  could be discouraged to continue to do this. It hasn't any consistency that is why it can not be a long term profitable sources.
Long term profitable source must have credibility otherwise it would go in vein.
Thats right, you cant be consistently lucky in gambling, how can it be profitable if that is the case. you will only lose your money in the long run for playing with a few winnings. if gambling would be so profitable then everyone would be a gambler, i believe that gambling should be for entertainment purposes only and if ever you win consider it as bonus.

I agree that gambling should be treated as only an entertainment and not for profit. Generally, without the skill in gambling, you will gonna lose. That is just the hard fact! However, there are few gamblers out there that are really killing it! They are really few professional gamblers.
2125  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: May 07, 2017, 09:33:40 AM
Best way to steady income is. Storing what we have now, though a little better. If it is enough we can invest for our future, not just bitcoin but also can be on gold, property or even stock.

One thing to add to that is that, we should prioritize on investing to oneself - knowledge and skills in the field of investing, gaming, and trading bitcoins. Without it, no matter how we try to save and invest, we can never have a steady income.
2126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: April 27, 2017, 11:57:00 AM
Thats a good idea. Not just job, get yourself busy in other things of life, that can take out gambling from your life. But gamble once in a while, otherwise it will be hard to leave it at once. Or limit your gambling with amount which you can afford.

The other way seems to be more likely based from my experience. People nowadays cant control their gambling behaviour but they can control what they can afford so instead of quitting and have a hard time. Perhaps taking the bankroll cut strategy might seems to be the best strategy to look at right now

Make sense. And it can be a good starting point to finally and totally quite the bad gambling habit from then on. Although you still gamble but this time just for fun and in a very disciplined manner that you are not gonna take the bait of betting more and more that you can no longer afford to lose.
2127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: April 26, 2017, 02:57:24 AM
sometimes our predictions goes in our favor and sometimes it becomes worst...

well in both ends we are getting addicted, if our prediction push through we got excited to continue as we think that we can win more, while when we got lose we are very aggressive to win back our loses and its bringing us to keep thinking for some strategy to win coming from our activity.
It's normal to win and lose and that should not be new to us, one thing that will cause addiction is when you cannot
accept your loses and you will continue until you get back your loses.

On the other hand, it can also be addicting when you feel good about playing or gambling. Addiction comes from great satisfaction and high level of temporary happiness.

Well, not only the satisfaction, you are feeling good specially when you are earning money easily without even having a sweat. In other words, it satisfies your greediness, addiction do not comes from hapiness, hapiness comes from being comfortable to something making you happy, that means you can't be comfortable with gambling, you are just getting confused.

Make sense. But I am certain that there are a number of people who gambles conservatively that are happy doing it - I am one of them. Gambling is entertainment - entertainment makes happy in any sense I think.

Then I can have an assumption that you are the type of person that is comfortable spending their money, taking in risks to earn them, or maybe you do not mind having any profit ust to have fun, well, I respect that. I am also gambling to have fun, especially in my free time. And not that I object you with anything, I also respect you having different thoughts from these matter, but for me, entertaining is not just to make someone happy, it is also to put someone's focus on someone or something.

You are right Janation, I am just gambling for fun and not really minding to profit out of it. Although, I am for profit in my trading cryptocurrencies - that is the place where I get so uncomfortable sometimes but really, patience is a good virtue when trading Smiley
2128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: April 26, 2017, 02:54:28 AM
I really don't see how having experience in games like roulette may help you winning. Games like roulette are unpredictable and the outcome is based on a private server seed.
Maybe if you have experience you may already know this and you know the risks of betting.
to me i think there are some formats of gambling where we need our experience and skill. although we are depending on  our luck for gambling, but still in some games iike sports betting, horse racing and motor racing we can use our skill and previous experience, while in some other gambling games we are totally depending on our luck and there is no need for any experience and skill.
It is a classic reasons lol , but honestly i don't think experience really necessary.
Just look at those newbie / a new comer to gamble , they spin and won it , they roll and won it, they pick an event and won it.
So what should you call it is because experience? Pure luck? Of course gambling always to take a risk and rely only on luck.

Well that is why there are gamblers especially newbies and new comers that has beginner's luck. So we can say it is also their luck. And you can't just say that experience is not really necessary. Most of the experienced gamblers don't lose that much, they may win big, but mostly not that much. They are the type of gamblers that don't really think that they can have profit from gambling, they gamble knowing that they may lose or may win.
Then it is not really necessary right? If everyone think that ecperience so important and even a key to gamble.
Then what will happened for those people who has no experience?
Is there any difference and some big impact? No i don't think so , there maybe a very little impact but not that big.
Experience is actually useless if you are talking about dice or anything that cannot be influenced by experience. But you can use experience when you decide when to withdraw, deposit, stop and start playing! That is the only thing that you can use experience in.
If you takes a positive things then you will consider an experience a little bit helpful on anything.
Include a game such as dice or any other luck based games.
You can take an example when you have an experience to play dice , you will know that the game has a lot of pressure , you will forced to play in hurry and to handle it you must be in calm / cool condition , otherwise you will get heated and lost it quickly.

I agree to staying calm and cool when gambling - that way, you are in control of your game and not do any unwanted decisions of like doing all in because these are the things that really makes other gamblers loses.
2129  Other / Off-topic / Re: Save you Bitcoin for your (grand) child / children? on: April 26, 2017, 02:52:41 AM
I will not save any bitcoin for my children and will prefer to spend on my own fun stuffs as there is no guarantee that when my children will grow up at that time bitcoin will be still alive and if it dies then it will be waste to save them.

Well, at least a couple of coins could be tried to leave for the children. Bitcoin has a good perspective and maybe in the future the children will be grateful for such a gift.

I could not agree more with you mate. Children will surely be grateful when they received bitcoins in the future that are especially kept and save for them Smiley
2130  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: April 26, 2017, 02:51:24 AM
Right now might be a good time to buy Bitcoin as the price has dropped some. If you can time your trading correctly, you will be able to increase your Bitcoins over time.
Yes its a good idea to buy now but we can also wait to become $1000 for sure the price will increase fast if the price will dump for that price.  Trading is also needs timing

Unless there is a big bad news, I think the price will be above $1000.

Unless there is no bad news rather, so for those people that are planning to quit trading. You should think again because the fact that most of the people are staying and they are seeing a lot of good positive output coming from bitcoin. I would say that keep on trading guys the price is up now at $1,300.

I am with you mate. Trading is a long time profession and it will stay there for good - you just need to learn how to play your game.
2131  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: April 26, 2017, 02:50:04 AM
Why dont you want to invest in projrcts which give you decent profit after some time. roi is really good if you know what you are doing.Best of luck!
It's good to invest in project but the big problem is finding a good project that will generate income for you, we know in the online world there are plenty of scammers, so you have to make a deep study before putting your money in a certain project.

Also, make sure you are investing an amount that you can afford to lose because it will not guarantee a positive return, losing is part of the game.

This is true and most especially true when we invest with cryptocurrencies because there is kind of anonymity in the transactions and therefore easy for scammers to get away with it.
Agreed, anonymity gives the ease of scamming the user accounts and the investment. But anonymity is the one that makes bitcoin and other digital currencies differ from the common fiat and attract the users. For a steady income find a day job and make investment in term of bitcoin with your income per month.

In other words, it is a double edge sword - it can be used either for great things or just to scam others. By the way, I totally agree with you to earn a living first by doing work and invest a portion of your income to some bitcoin investment.
2132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 26, 2017, 02:47:47 AM
Try martingale with low risk profile. First you need to learn. There is huge risk involved in it.
I don't think it's the easiest strategy to earn profit. If you compute it, if you received a continuous streak up to 5 - 8 continuous streak, it will definitely eat your bank roll up.

I am a living witness of more than 5 - 8 continuous streak, I tell you that! Smiley That is why, martingale is really not safe at all. However, you can win some using the strategy as long as you play slow and not greedy.
2133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: April 26, 2017, 02:45:51 AM
there is nothing wrong with gambling but keep in mind that if you gamble, you only gamble what you can afford to lose. after all, gambling is  ideal for entertainment purposes only or for relaxing.
Everyone don't realise it. This is the major cause for every loss happening with the gamblers and finally ending up without balance into the wallet causing frustration. If this is the case then gambling can be considered wrong, but understanding the reality and spending accordingly will profit as well serve as a perfect entertainment.
We know that's going to be the case because we know that you already have to be the ones to be in control especially when gambling. It's not that gambling doesn't offer entertainment but it serves the thrill that watching movies and other activities don't offer.

I agree the thrill of potentially earning big is really the driving force when it comes to gambling.
2134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: April 26, 2017, 02:44:44 AM
sometimes our predictions goes in our favor and sometimes it becomes worst...

well in both ends we are getting addicted, if our prediction push through we got excited to continue as we think that we can win more, while when we got lose we are very aggressive to win back our loses and its bringing us to keep thinking for some strategy to win coming from our activity.
It's normal to win and lose and that should not be new to us, one thing that will cause addiction is when you cannot
accept your loses and you will continue until you get back your loses.

On the other hand, it can also be addicting when you feel good about playing or gambling. Addiction comes from great satisfaction and high level of temporary happiness.

Well, not only the satisfaction, you are feeling good specially when you are earning money easily without even having a sweat. In other words, it satisfies your greediness, addiction do not comes from hapiness, hapiness comes from being comfortable to something making you happy, that means you can't be comfortable with gambling, you are just getting confused.

Make sense. But I am certain that there are a number of people who gambles conservatively that are happy doing it - I am one of them. Gambling is entertainment - entertainment makes happy in any sense I think.
2135  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: April 26, 2017, 02:42:00 AM
Why dont you want to invest in projrcts which give you decent profit after some time. roi is really good if you know what you are doing.Best of luck!
It's good to invest in project but the big problem is finding a good project that will generate income for you, we know in the online world there are plenty of scammers, so you have to make a deep study before putting your money in a certain project.

Also, make sure you are investing an amount that you can afford to lose because it will not guarantee a positive return, losing is part of the game.

This is true and most especially true when we invest with cryptocurrencies because there is kind of anonymity in the transactions and therefore easy for scammers to get away with it.
2136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: April 26, 2017, 02:40:09 AM
do you like slot games ?

Slot machines are the best!! they are fun and entertaining especially when you win and the sound just goes off everywhere and all the people looks at you. lol Cheesy Grin For me its better to play slot machines in real casinos than just playing alone at home its more better to interact with other people while playing for me but I think some people also plays at home I don't know how they can play alone. I just feel that whenever I play on online slot machines I feel cheated. So for me Its more fun and safe I guess to play in real slot machine in casinos.  Wink
Not everyone plays alone online, i play with my friends sometimes. it's safer,easier and faster to get money with online slots. huge jackpots are also aren't a problem, casinos have previously paid over 100 BTC in jackpot without much delay.

Well as per experience, slot jackpots rarely comes to fruition. I don't really enjoy now compared to before when i started playing it. At first its as you say, fun, entertaining but the longer you play, the more i reslize its a waste of time and if im going to waste money, i'd rather spend it on more exciting gambling types
It was made to give fun but your winning chances is really low, so if you are a gambler whose looking for better income you should stay away on that game, you can play sometimes to try your luck but don't stick with it. There are games where there is no house edge, poker was one of my favorites because I'm inspired by people who are making a living in this game.

I could not agree more to this reply. Slot games are just so hard to win generally as it is purely based on luck and there is no strategy that we can do to win only the changing of amount and some buttons and that is it.
2137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: April 26, 2017, 02:30:33 AM
sometimes our predictions goes in our favor and sometimes it becomes worst...

well in both ends we are getting addicted, if our prediction push through we got excited to continue as we think that we can win more, while when we got lose we are very aggressive to win back our loses and its bringing us to keep thinking for some strategy to win coming from our activity.
It's normal to win and lose and that should not be new to us, one thing that will cause addiction is when you cannot
accept your loses and you will continue until you get back your loses.

On the other hand, it can also be addicting when you feel good about playing or gambling. Addiction comes from great satisfaction and high level of temporary happiness.
2138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: February 24, 2017, 12:26:19 AM
If someone which follows the set of rules and be discipline enoff. Can people make 50-100 $ a day just gambling in online casino.....?
I'm not a professional neither an experts gambler so the only pop up in my mind was that there is a person/gambler who are destined to become a veterans gambler/professional gambler which these type of player has self discipline, and know the principle technique in gambling and became rich amost in gambling, but majority of the gambler are not chosen to be like them.

Professional gamblers takes time to create sessions and time as to when to stop whether they are winning or not. They do this without any emotions involved. There is a system they follow and the risk mitigation is well covered. It is really a work type thing - they are serious about it and they follow their system no matter what.
2139  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your biggest bitcoin regrets? on: February 23, 2017, 11:45:55 PM
What are some of your biggest bitcoin regrets, and what were you thinking back then?

Besides "not getting in sooner"  Grin


Obligatory: BFL  Tongue


EDIT: Bitcoin "mistakes" go here =)

I regret most that I lose almost 5 bitcoins fairly fast in a week time. I should have kept it and I should have few money right now with that amount of bitcoins Smiley
2140  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think of people that treat Bitcoin solely as an investment? on: February 23, 2017, 11:44:31 PM
I've seen a lot of people arguing that Bitcoin can be profitable because of its volatility and convenience, but sometimes I feel that people using Bitcoin as an investment have little enthusiasm for its main use as a means of trading without an intermediary.

Under what circumstances should Bitcoin be treated as investment and to what extent should people think about its use as a global currency?

They have the full right in doing whatever they wanted with their bitcoins. There are many kinds of people and there are no two individuals are alike - even if they are twins, that is the fact. So, when an individual is trying to use bitcoin solely for investment, it is really fine.
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