Yup that's mainly the problem, that is why Biden backed up from his statement that Putin should be removed from power and why I pointed in my previous post that we are no longer in 1914.


That's all right, I saw it today in CNN. Now, will your leader admit these are soldiers and exchange them or the desire for revenge and barbarism is too much to resist? I can figure out that he cares little for Russ prisoners, as little as he cared for these ones.


Lol... still pretending that we use "his sources" as credible is kind of fun. But yes, they surrendered, it had to happen.

Translation: after torture and questioning, plus a few years in artic.

I am going to allow myself to quote some WW I notes here:


Does this sound familiar?


So, next step will be the search for the "internal enemy", this explains the purging of high ranking officers, but soon "internal nazi's" and "gayrope collaborators" will be "found gloriously" by the Russian Intelligence(less) Service.

And lastly...


I am starting to see a pattern here. The only issue is that a revolt on a nuclear power is not indifferent to the rest of the world.

Ahhhh... "that type of source".

Bruh... since when do you care for what is possibly the gayest thing in your "Gayrope"?

Or are you trying to shed any doubt about the support that Ukraine has in Europe? You will fail spectacularly.

 Are you aware that there are no refugee camps for Ukrainians in Europe? We are talking millions of people being accepted into private homes - I have never seen people so keen on accepting those who fly war.


Source? ... bah, why do I bother. Is that from the Russian Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales?

I can see a guy in a picture by a flag and someone who I cannot identify. I am sure you get me.

Russian Army seems to be the second best army. I mean, the second best army in Ukraine.

@Tash, you seem very keen on publishing the barbaric uses of Putin's army and how they are going to "tattoo check". You are aware that these thing go back right? Retaliation is a bitch uh?

The investigation was done by Navalny and is still on his web, though I reckon that all efforts have been done to link the guy with "the West" to put is softly https://www.rferl.org/a/navalny-putin-palace/31052807.html


So the guys are posting propaganda about Zelensky based on tweets while they have just this under their noses. Putin, was not born rich. You know where this comes from, don't you?











I am not the I told you guy.... do not die for Putin while he robs the Russ people.


They did not listen... Hundreds where wiped out so that Putin can keep on the rebuilding works in his Imperial Throne (the mould infestation is just pure karma).


This the SAM defence of Belgorod (I cannot myself confirm), now working full time. Yes, that is Russian territory - not like "Transnistria" or Crimea, it is the Rodina.

https://t.me/belgorod_informant/405

Particularly coming from Putin. The guy is got assets all over the world and, allegedly even a full sized real-emperor like palace in Russia.

Apart, it is clearly a kleptocratic and corrupt regime and it cannot  be otherwise because all the check and balances that need to be there and need to be cared for by the people have been demolished. All that's left in Putin's Russia is gangsterism.

I have read his answers and "points of view". There is not much to engage about I agree. It is a flatline propaganda replayer. Even be.open tries to be a bit creative.



False, Zelensky did not "make" 100 million... but let's speak about Putin's fortune, all made by stealing it from the Russian people. How much is currently Putin's cut for a general purpose business?

It would be quite interesting and I am sure there must be already a number of scientific studies around gambling. I am sure the casinos have requested and financed this type of works, just like McDonalds has perfect knowledge of the views of its clients and has carefully designed all the products. I think the field is certainly still open with the gambling on-line to economic, psicological or other studies.

It is just too difficult to deal with Real Madrid, even for teams that one would consider as more powerful or at least with a clear specialty or particular tactics that work well against with strong and quality teams. Levante should probably not even be in the same competition as Real, they are simply way below the weight category and that can only end in the way it did on this occassion.

I can align well with people who liked the online gambling. My personal view, and that is open for discussion, is that some of the games there were not strictly on the bitcoin chain, but rather on the Ethereum platform. I would not exactly class krytokitties as a gambling platform as such, but it does look like an speculation platform and made the network both consolidate and show as well the limits.

This has already been discussed over and over on this thread. Putin had effectively an army corps under command of the Russian Army in Donetsk and Luhansk. The fighting in the region was paid for and directed from the Kremlin. Invoking defence on this case is cynical to the max - there was no fight before he decided to.

I can see you are one of those here that just throw shit and see if it sticks. It does not.


Tash, I am going to quote you on this one. I just want to make sure this comment is there. In case UKR can go to Mariupol now they are done with Kharkiv. Who would think that Russian population would need to be evacuated from Russia uh?

The best thing Putin could do now is start bringing back all the Ukrainians deported.

I am not sure all these platforms are actually keen on taking adds from casinos and the like. Facebook is much under fire because the public has lost trust in their methods and their style and the young consider it something that is outdated. Until Facebook reinvents itself, the advertising options for casinos may not be such a good idea. The forum here may be much more interesting and profitable.

Mostly. Unfortunately what Trump does affects the US and the rest of the world and it is not possible to ignore it. A few of the things you mention, like the "police was welcoming people" do not match with the police dead. Perhaps the party got out of control or what's the cover for that?

If Russia wants friendly relations with his neighbours that's what they should be aiming for. They failed and used violence (they did not get the chick and decided to rape).

Anyway, back to Ukraine. I hope you slept well too.


Unlikely, a 0.0001% chance of that.

I know nothing about what the US is not saying about their real capabilities (particularly in stealth and interception). The Russ military is so infiltrated that one of these days the specs of the S-500 are going to be published in a Brit tabloid along with the marital affairs of Jonny Deep. If you care to look at these specs you will find out that they are intended to intercept ICBM, not even Russia dares to claim intercepting a hypersonic missile - I mean a serious claim, not blah blah. (e.g. "we can intercept hypersonic cruise missiles because our missiles goes at this much speed" - basically ignoring why is it actually difficult to kill these boys - detecting on time.

They US guy is absolutely right - it does present difficulties as does the real threat: China. It is simply that you are claiming capabilities from the Russ systems that are simply not there (e.g. interception of hypersonic missiles) and then saying that "you do not need to convince" - AKA providing false information. I know you are trying to assure Russian people that they are safe on the basis of "superior weapons", but anyone with a VPN knows better. I really hope that people in Belgorod, now in artillery range from Ukraine, are not the first ones to find.

Indeed, hypersonic missiles are a serious problem, even with a limited "hypersonic" capability. Very difficult to detect and very difficult to stop, perfect for carrier killing. The US military is very open about it for one reason: they want funds to deal with this threat and they will get them.

Will Russia keep up the spending pace under sanctions that include electronic components and a GDP that is more than 10 times less than US? Not to mention NATO's full budget which ranges in the 20 times more? Who do you think is going to get to the NW and hypersonic interception capability before? And now the US citizens are even more keen into chipping in the coin to do it - thanks to who?... you know.


@be.open, before denying the below, why don't you travel  to Kharkiv and send us a picture of you posing. That would convince anyone that this is not true. Oh... I forgot, you do not feel the need to convince and you know more than anyone here.

Of course, Russian soldiers on a minu-bus, ridiculous lol... what is going to be next? Them trying to scape a drone in a Lada ... that cannot be!

If NATO wanted to have nukes at less than 500 miles from Moscow, it would be perfectly possible already. Vilnus is quite close....

False, Russia has no capability to intercept hypersonic missiles.

On the nuclear threat, the existing S-400 missile stands some chance of stopping an small number of warheads if placed in large numbers and very close to the warheads targets. S-500 at most can intercept short range ballistic missiles and there are only very costly few units (I wonder how will they be produced without semiconductors in the future). Russia does not have an advantage on NW delivery platforms by sea or air. The North Pole and the South Pole are there for everyone to use - confers zero advantage. A hypersonic missile, as of now, can deliver one warhead at mid-range only, as opposed to ICBM that can deliver multiple (even 40) warheads both real and decoy.

EDITED TO CORRECT: S-400 can at most intercept short range ballistic missiles, other than re-entry stage ICMB warheads with low certainty.

In sum, there is no Russian weapon that can protect a large city from a determined attack. I am not aware of US having one either, I am just suspecting that THAAD is not all there is.

The argument of Putin trying to avoid nukes in close proximity is completely flawed, that ship has already sailed (like the Moskva). Putin psychologically, is a gangster. He understand only the language of threats and intimidation and somehow he is convinced that his intimidation power is reduced if UKR joins NATO. But I am wondering, what is the real underlying strategic issue behind the war. It could be:

- Nuking to close to Russia would backfire. Russia would be affected. Having Ukraine between Russia and NATO makes a nuclear threat more credible.
- There is some interception system in NATO that is not widely known but could potentially work in early launch stages.

An the reason I think is correct, and that battle is lost with Finland joining NATO: Putin's Russia cannot economically defend a very large border with NATO at the same time as with China and control the extremists in Georgia and Syria. Unfortunately, he got most of this wrong.

I can live with Trump politics and I can live with Biden's. The problem is how Trump tends to communicate and respond to criticism by trying to shoot anyone opposing. Seriously, even getting near to supporting a mob assaulting the congress would have been science fiction before him.

No, you have stated that the Russian invasion would have not happened with Trump. That is a quite bold guess. My guess is that it would have happened anyway, but due to his "experience" with Ukraine and his narcissistic personality it would have ended either letting Putin take Ukraine or on a full scale NATO intervention with a clear risk of nuclear war. Your guess, my guess. And now, guess who is going to sleep.  

I could not have said it better. I mean, literally can't.

I will give you half a point on this one. Russia does know what doesn't - is just that they keep on doing it.


Well, it certainly seems that YOU can make YOUR bold assumptions, but I am not granted that opportunity. Very typical of a Trump supporter. Anyway, Trump is not the POTUS and there is another thread in politics where you can rant as much as you like.

You may want to read about the scenarios that are built around the possibility of using nuclear weapons. While it is something that I would not like to test, it is not an immediately "all nukes in", there is escalation and chances to stop. Again, there are YOUR bold assumptions, that cannot be wrong because they are inspired by your God (Trump I assume).

Your argument about Russia being a country that could be fully autonomous industrially is right in the principle. The USSR was quite disconnected (apart from the COMECON, which was not of much use). The problem is that the rest of the world is perfectly able to grow faster by commerce, growing on the exchanges of strengths, etc... Which is one of the reasons why the USSR disintegrated, despite having all natural resources at their disposal.

As simple as this, interconnexion creates competitivity and markets, autarky brings corruption, kleptocracy, inefficiency and the inability of keeping up with an adversary. Again, many of those traits exist in Russia and that is why it has been unable to bring more countries into its sphere of influence pacifically and the reason why Ukraine is being invaded.


I am not sure it is a lie TBH, it is probably the only "reason" that may have, from Putin's view, at least some coherence. However it is mostly a flawed argument, since NATO has not invaded any country. In fact, many countries did not support US stance on Iraq other than US a a few lightweights.

I am still wondering if there is out there a system of early nuclear interception that works in a 300 or so km range from the launch point. That could explain all the fuss about security.

Suuuure... count on that and repeat with me "I am safe... I am safe..."


Yes, there is plenty going on at Odessa. Russ ships sunk, troops unable to even get to Mykolaiv, no way of using Snake Island to launch and attack... If you intend to deviate the attention from Belgorod, you have just chosen the "right spot".

You could as well choosen Findland. Do you think Poland will also invade Finland? Another 1340 km of frontier with NATO coming soon. And people laughed when I said that Putin may be a CIA agent... you cannot do it worse.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/12/europe/finland-leaders-join-nato-intl/index.html

And of course Putin does the only thing he know: Threaten. There is no winner to this war other than US, thank to your chief Psychos and you lame leader.


With Trump we would be now using white suits and gas masks all over the globe.

What the real news is:
So the minister of Italy says something, which is "can" and you take it as Europe saying yes? You have open the box, now add 1 +1 here.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/exclusive-eu-considering-curbing-russias-rights-imf-over-invasion-sources-2022-03-04/


https://www.ft.com/content/2aef066b-3cdb-49c2-9258-38575b4ad799


Keep hold of those Roubles very hard, put them under your blanket. They will go up right? What could go wrong?